Who were and who are the KKK (SPLIT FROM: Stephen Breyer to retire)

[TomC]

The Dems went from the party of the working class to the party of race identity politics. That’s pretty evident.

That's not evident to me at all.
The Republicans went from the party racism to the party of treason, during the last few years.

That's what is evident to me.

The Democrats aren't particularly the party of the working class either. There isn't one, anymore. But Trumpish lies don't make the Republicans supporters of the working class. The Democrats are still more supportive of blue collar folks.
Such as it is, which isn't much.
Tom

 

[Trausti]

That's not evident to me at all.

Uh huh. So which of the parties have gone Woke?

 

[TomC]

That's not evident to me at all.

Uh huh. So which of the parties have gone Woke?

Both.
Or neither.

One claims to be Woke in favor of lower class people. So does the other. Neither actually does.

Stupid promises and political grandstanding doesn't help most Americans. Whether it's "Build The Wall" or "Defund The Police". But they keep the political elite riding the government gravy train. Politicians keep the rich folk happy with their politically popular lies. Rich folks "donate" piles of cash to the politicians.

The rest of us argue about which flavor of government corruption is more moral. And keep paying.
Tom

 

[Copernicus]

And how is equating the Democratic Party with the Ku Klux Klan in any way realistic today?

Denying individuality and judging/treating people by their perceived racial group?

Democrats do not deny individuality. They can't even get their politicians to vote in lockstep solidarity the way Republicans do. How are Kinzinger and Cheney being allowed to express their individuality as members of the Republican caucus in Congress? Republicans are conducting a bloodbath in order to purge themselves of so-called "RINOs". Both sides engage in cancel culture politics.

As for identity politics, both sides play that game, as Republican state voting district maps prove all over the country. The Civil Rights Act used to attract both Republican and Democratic supporters. Nowadays, Republicans can't put enough distance between themselves and voting rights that support minority voters. Race is a convenient way to identify and suppress votes that might help elect Democrats.

But neither the Republicans nor the Democrats are anything like the Ku Klux Klan in spreading racial hatred and bigotry. It's just that Ku Klux Klan members and Neo-Nazis may not always favor a mainstream political party, but when they do...which one do they favor? The Republican Party.

 

[Trausti]

Democrats do not deny individuality.

Okay. So which party has tried to condition government preference on skin color?

 

[Copernicus]

Democrats do not deny individuality.

Okay. So which party has tried to condition government preference on skin color?

Both.

Still, it is the Republican Party now favored by right wing racists and Neo-Nazis. Donald Trump didn't start the trend, but, boy, did he ever take advantage of it.

 

[lpetrich]

Seems to me that Jason Harvestdancer's signature is "own the libs" right-wing trolling.

The present-day Democratic Party is a descendant of earlier Northern Democrats, not Dixiecrats, those Democrats who became Republicans half a century ago.

 

[Swammerdami]

I really do not understand how your peculiar apologies for Mr. Harvestdancer are compatible with his bitterly stupid signature:

No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA

The word "Democrat" has three silent k's.

Well then, you probably need to demsplain to him the correct language for minorities to use to describe how the Democrats treat them.

Oh my. I didn't have you pegged as a Trumpist or Tea Partier, but you seem to have swallowed their lies.

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?


I asked — and now rephrase — a simple question: Write a very brief essay on the "three silent k's", explaining and defending this peculiar usage. Thanks in advance. See if you can avoid meaningless pejoratives like "demsplain."

I like to shed light on idiocies with slightly exaggerated metaphors. Jason's sig reminds me of the time a waitress asked her customer if he wanted catsup or mustard. The customer answered "Mustard, of course. Catsup killed 6 million Jews."

That's right. I herewith formally charge Jason's precious signature with being a non sequitur.

 

[Trausti]

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?

When Larry Elder run for CA governor the Dems showed who they really were.

 

[lpetrich]

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?

When Larry Elder run for CA governor the Dems showed who they really were.

Trausti, what do you mean?

 

[ZiprHead]

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?

When Larry Elder run for CA governor the Dems showed who they really were.

Trausti, what do you mean?

I'd like to hear this too.

 

[Swammerdami]

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?

When Larry Elder run for CA governor the Dems showed who they really were.

Trausti, what do you mean?

I'm afraid you read too much into Trausti's utterance. For Neo-Nazis, QAnon nuts and others on America's Right, Blacks are interchangeable.

Thurgood Marshall — Clarence Thomas. Same-Same.
Colin Powell — Ben Carson. Same-Same.

Racist white imbeciles voted for Trump in droves because he was one of their own. Similarly, in the QOPAnon view, blacks were somehow obligated to vote for a fellow black, regardless of his stance on issues.

I know this doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's the best I can offer. @Trausti? Can you help? Something other than a glib one-line non sequitur, please.

 

[Bomb#20]

Well then, you probably need to demsplain to him the correct language for minorities to use to describe how the Democrats treat them.

Sorry if I was operating under the wrong impression, but which minority does Jason belong to? And how is equating the Democratic Party with the Ku Klux Klan in any way realistic today?

I think he said he's Native American. If you feel Jason's comparison is hyperbolic and that's grounds for complaint, take it up with him -- I'm just correcting the record in the face of a flood of disinformation from his political opponents as to what he means by what he says.

Klan members used to be Democrats, if they belonged to any mainstream party. Today, they would more likely be Republicans.

Don't take this the wrong way, because on this point you are about the least bad offender here, but...

What the heck is with all you guys' obsession with the bleeding Republicans? Jason didn't say a goddamn word about the Republicans. It's not about the Republicans.

 

[ZiprHead]

I think he said he's Native American.

Hispanic.

 

[ZiprHead]

What the heck is with all you guys' obsession with the bleeding Republicans? Jason didn't say a goddamn word about the Republicans. It's not about the Republicans.

Jason brought up the KKK in an attempt to smear Democrats, that are virtually all Republicans today.

 

[Bomb#20]

I think he said he's Native American.

Hispanic.

That's intersectionality for you.

What the heck is with all you guys' obsession with the bleeding Republicans? Jason didn't say a goddamn word about the Republicans. It's not about the Republicans.

Jason brought up the KKK in an attempt to smear Democrats, that are virtually all Republicans today.

The Democrats he's criticizing by analogizing them to the old KKK are all Democrats today. The old actual KKK Democrats are virtually all dead today. It's not about the Republicans.

 

[Bomb#20]

Well then, you probably need to demsplain to him the correct language for minorities to use to describe how the Democrats treat them.

"Demsplain"?

It's an analogy.

I'm a fairly conservative white male.
Even I know that the KKK supports TeaPartiers like Trump and McConnell. Solidly support them.

Trump is the current hero of the KKK.

Why on earth would you imagine that's in the least bit relevant to the issue of what Jason means by what he says? Why do you guys keep bringing up Trump? A lot of minorities feel the Democrats don't respect minorities. When Democrats jump to the conclusion this means they need a lecture about Trump, do you think this shows they're wrong?!?

Whether you and TSwizzle realize it or not.
Tom

You're better than that.

 

[ZiprHead]

Why on earth would you imagine that's in the least bit relevant to the issue of what Jason means by what he says? Why do you guys keep bringing up Trump? A lot of minorities feel the Democrats don't respect minorities. When Democrats jump to the conclusion this means they need a lecture about Trump, do you think this shows they're wrong?!?

Is it their minority status that Dems don't respect or the conservative views held by minorities like JH?

 

[Bomb#20]

I really do not understand how your peculiar apologies for Mr. Harvestdancer are compatible with his bitterly stupid signature:

No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA

The word "Democrat" has three silent k's.

Well then, you probably need to demsplain to him the correct language for minorities to use to describe how the Democrats treat them.

Oh my. I didn't have you pegged as a Trumpist or Tea Partier, but you seem to have swallowed their lies.

Oh my, I didn't have you pegged as a Manichaean. Oh, wait, yes I did, ever since you wrote "I think Jason is proud that he, along with Donald J. Trump, is one of the few Americans that know that factoid.". Stop reading everything through your Democrats-vs-Republicans blinders. Or if you're just here to slur other posters, at least get some new material.

For 25 years the party alignments of black voters has been about 83% D, 11% R. Do you think the majority of blacks are stupid and vote against their own interests? I don't have InfoWars subscriber data, but suspect his viewers are mostly white. Is that the problem? Blacks don't pay enough attention to top intellectuals like Alex Jones?

Are you seriously under the impression that if the Republicans are worse then that proves the Democrats respect black people? Just because you're obsessed with Republicans does not mean everybody else must be talking about them all the time.

I asked — and now rephrase — a simple question: Write a very brief essay on the "three silent k's", explaining and defending this peculiar usage. Thanks in advance.

Trausti already had that covered, so why are you asking for it again? "Denying individuality and judging/treating people by their perceived racial group?".

The KKK denied individuality and judged/treated people by their perceived racial group. It is painfully obvious that Jason feels the Democrats still deny individuality and still judge/treat people by their perceived racial group. That is why he makes the "three silent k's" analogy. End of brief essay.

If you feel that's not a good enough reason to make such an analogy because REPUBLICANS BAD, you'll have to take that up with Jason. If you feel it isn't true and the Democrats no longer deny individuality and no longer judge/treat people by their perceived racial group, I'm sure Trausti is up for a debate on that. But if you feel that I'm misreading Jason and what he really means is that he's proud to be a rare Trump-like person who knows Lincoln was a Republican because Jason is criticizing Democrats so he must be a Republican and Republicans worship Trump so Jason must worship Trump, then I will continue to point out your epic reading comprehension fail.

See if you can avoid meaningless pejoratives like "demsplain."

See if you can avoid acting like Ehrlich on Silicon Valley.

 

[Bomb#20]

A lot of minorities feel the Democrats don't respect minorities. When Democrats jump to the conclusion this means they need a lecture about Trump, do you think this shows they're wrong?!?

Is it their minority status that Dems don't respect or the conservative views held by minorities like JH?

Those are the only possibilities that occur to you?