Why are greedy companies paying 2x minimum wage in ND for entry level?

[Axulus]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

 

[untermensche]

One thing we know. WalMart isn't doing this because they care about their workers.

WalMart is notorious for treating it's employees like shit.

The real question is why isn't WalMart doing this nationally?

 

[jonatha]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

No.

Because in Williston ND there are only 20000 people, and at the moment more than enough demand for jobs to go around.

Plop that WalMart elsewhere in the state - say the Fort Bethold Indian Reservation (unemployment rate 42%) - and they could and would say that.

 

[ksen]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

 

[Lumpenproletariat]

#1

Axulus

Why are greedy companies paying 2x minimum wage in ND for entry level?

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

You got it all wrong.

The WalMart directors in ND are the first ones who have become enlightened to their social obligation to pay the workers enough income so they can stimulate the economy with their spending, which in turn would create prosperity for us all.

That's all the workers are good for anyway, i.e., to spend money and thus stimulate the economy and create a higher standard of living.

That's what happened in Germany:

Once upon a time all the German workers were exploited and oppressed and living in squalor. Then the German employers became enlightened and increased the wage level to $50 per hour, and this drove up demand, and suddenly Germany turned from a poverty-stricken 3rd World country into a developed advanced workers paradise.

The same would happen to Greece today, but instead of allowing Greece to increase the wages and benefits to the workers, so Greece could also become a workers paradise, Germany is forcing Greece into a slave-state condition, in which the workers will all be oppressed, because the Germans hate Greeks and want to oppress them and keep them enslaved forever.

See how everything falls into place? You need to listen to Bernie Sanders -- he explains it all so clearly. (Don't believe all that supply-and-demand stuff!)

 

[Under the Rose]

Williston is booming and it all has to do with a vast underground rock formation that contains more than 7 billion barrels of oil and 6.7 trillion cubic feet of natural gas, a formation called the Bakken Formation.

http://myamericanodyssey.com/americ...benefits-of-making-a-fortune-in-williston-nd/

A big boom and a small population.

Very easily explained.

The same thing happened some years back in Ft MacPherson, Alberta, where they were hiring at Tim Horton's for $18.00/hr. Not to get too excited about it though because finding somewhere to live will quickly relieve you of that surplus of cash.

 

[laughing dog]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

Without knowing the cost of living there, it is difficult to say whether how those proposed wages compare. Also, given the boom times in that area, I wonder if they are having trouble hiring people to work there.

 

[Under the Rose]

Without knowing the cost of living there, it is difficult to say whether how those proposed wages compare. Also, given the boom times in that area, I wonder if they are having trouble hiring people to work there.

Part of the answer to the cost of living is in the link I posted, from which I excerpt the following:

On Route 85 just north of town workers are hammering away at what will be a spanking new Hampton Inn. Across the street a rival Holiday Inn is being thrown up as quickly as possible. Lodging here can’t keep up with the pace of new arrivals. The town is routinely booked up. Discount hotels charge $200 a night.

Housing is a major issue. People arriving here to snatch up high paying jobs find themselves living in tents or sleeping in cars. The Walmart parking lot became a makeshift campground until shoppers had trouble navigating the helter-skelter of RV’s and pop-up tents to find a parking slot. Now Walmart has chased them off.
Self-contained housing units at a “man camp” in Williston, ND. These SCU’s sleep four and include kitchens and private baths.

Logistics companies like VEC Technology and Target Logistics have come to the rescue with modular housing. VEC’s so-called “house” is an 8’x10’ plastic cube offering all the comforts of a tricked-out shipping container. It costs $25,000. Target logistics have erected “man camps” consisting of row upon row of plastic Quonset huts. These so called self-contained units (SCU’s) sleep up to four and include kitchens and private baths. They rent for $400-$600 a month.
The man camps are Spartan and a lot like living in a box, but they’re about the best bang for your buck in Williston. Renting an apartment here can be brutal. One room apartments rent for as high as $2,500 a month. And buying a home? A two bedroom single wide manufactured home fetches $250,000. Set that against a national average of $37,000 and you get an idea of the housing crunch in Williston.

 

[boneyard bill]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

I really am astonished at the replies here. It's obviously a rhetorical question yet most of the responses seem to be taking it literally and offering an explanation. And some of the explanations are actually fairly accurate. But, of course, the obvious answer is that there is a labor shortage in and Walmart has to pay higher wages because there are many other jobs in ND that pay more than Walmart does. And Walmart can afford to pay these higher wages because they can charge higher prices because of all those higher paying jobs in the area. And those other higher paying jobs pay more because they are higher skilled.

Which means, of course, that Walmart can't pay higher wages in other parts of the country because they can't raise prices elsewhere in the country and still stay in business because there isn't an abundance of highly skilled, high-paying jobs elsewhere in the country. And that is the real point of this rhetorical question. It is the local market conditions and the skill level of the workers that determine the wages and prices in any given economy, and governments cannot repeal those conditions simply by passing a law that says otherwise.

 

[boneyard bill]

#1

Axulus

Why are greedy companies paying 2x minimum wage in ND for entry level?

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

You got it all wrong.

The WalMart directors in ND are the first ones who have become enlightened to their social obligation to pay the workers enough income so they can stimulate the economy with their spending, which in turn would create prosperity for us all.

That's all the workers are good for anyway, i.e., to spend money and thus stimulate the economy and create a higher standard of living.

That's what happened in Germany:

Once upon a time all the German workers were exploited and oppressed and living in squalor. Then the German employers became enlightened and increased the wage level to $50 per hour, and this drove up demand, and suddenly Germany turned from a poverty-stricken 3rd World country into a developed advanced workers paradise.

The same would happen to Greece today, but instead of allowing Greece to increase the wages and benefits to the workers, so Greece could also become a workers paradise, Germany is forcing Greece into a slave-state condition, in which the workers will all be oppressed, because the Germans hate Greeks and want to oppress them and keep them enslaved forever.

See how everything falls into place? You need to listen to Bernie Sanders -- he explains it all so clearly. (Don't believe all that supply-and-demand stuff!)

I realize that this reply is tongue-in-cheek, but I can't help pointing out that the German worker's paradise doesn't even have a minimum wage, and if you are collecting unemployment in Germany, the government finds a job for you have to take it. Even if it is very low paying and even if it is only part time. If you refuse the job, you still lose your unemployment compensation.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

 

[untermensche]

I realize that this reply is tongue-in-cheek, but I can't help pointing out that the German worker's paradise doesn't even have a minimum wage, and if you are collecting unemployment in Germany, the government finds a job for you have to take it. Even if it is very low paying and even if it is only part time. If you refuse the job, you still lose your unemployment compensation.

Germany doesn't have a mandated minimum wage but it does have laws against paying people too little.

You can't simply pay people as little as some would want.

 

[Under the Rose]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

Which, unless I am mistaken, for the GM goods one could order on-line from Walmart.com and orders of $50.00 or more ship for free. For grocery items etc. there is still the option to shop other retailers.

 

[Ford]

What does the rest of the wage picture in this town look like?

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that if you have the skills necessary to get an entry level job at one of the oil companies, the Wal Mart wages look downright laughable by comparison.


So where's the photo of the other offers on the table?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

Which, unless I am mistaken, for the GM goods one could order on-line from Walmart.com and orders of $50.00 or more ship for free. For grocery items etc. there is still the option to shop other retailers.

Yeah, when you live in a place like that on-line becomes a lot more attractive.

And why do you think prices at other retailers will be any less??

 

[Under the Rose]

Yeah, when you live in a place like that on-line becomes a lot more attractive.

And why do you think prices at other retailers will be any less??

Perhaps because I work in corporate retail, in a small northern city and Walmart does not own the market on the lowest prices, they just have the people brain-washed into thinking so. I have checked prices across the board at several stores on similar products, sometimes identical brand names, and noted that many times other stores offer better specials and often even on everyday items, the difference is negligible.

Still, this is Canada, and I cannot speak to the same situations in the USA.

 

[ksen]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

You're sure? Your surety is not evidence.

This says that the cost of living in Williston is less than that of ND as a whole.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

Nope, not when I was there last fall.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Why is greedy Wal-Mart paying so much more than minimum wage for these entry level jobs at its Williston, ND store?

I mean, all Wal-Mart has to do is say accept the job at minimum wage or starve, no?

A good illustration of why companies like unemployment to be high. When it's low, like in ND, they have no choice but to pay higher wages.

I guess the next question is how will you explain walmart being able to keep its stores open in ND while paying such a high wage since there have been warnings about mass layoffs in low-skilled jobs if the MW gets raised to just over $10/hr.

I'm sure you will find the prices in the Williston store to be considerably higher than elsewhere.

On what basis?

The only thing that is probably much more expensive in Williston is housing. North Dakota is suffering from a housing shortage right now.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Yeah, when you live in a place like that on-line becomes a lot more attractive.

And why do you think prices at other retailers will be any less??

Perhaps because I work in corporate retail, in a small northern city and Walmart does not own the market on the lowest prices, they just have the people brain-washed into thinking so. I have checked prices across the board at several stores on similar products, sometimes identical brand names, and noted that many times other stores offer better specials and often even on everyday items, the difference is negligible.

Still, this is Canada, and I cannot speak to the same situations in the USA.

It is. When I was in retail, our prices were only a few cents above Wal-Mart. A large part of where they make their money is by bleeding suppliers dry. They also offer brand name "knock offs" on loss leaders such as TVs and such , so the TV you get from them may have the brand name on it and almost exact model number, but it is significantly lower quality.