Why Are Police So Bad at Their Jobs?

[prideandfall]

So many things odd with this I'm discouraged to continue. I'll try to sum it up.

oh! you're one of those 'laws are morality' people - ok, gotcha.
i've known quite a few folks with that mindset, and while it's not one that i agree with i get where you're coming from now.

so yes, you and i disagree very fundamentally on the nature of law, it's just a matter of two separate perspectives that really don't have much overlap.
i'm certainly not going to argue against your view that following municipal codes is a moral obligation, i've seen how deeply that belief runs in people, so i will just concede your points from your perspective.

You seem to agree that the mere presence of police deters crime, you just have disagreements on a bunch of other shit that I'm not talking about.

this is just a quibble now, since the real issue is that you and i have completely incompatible views of the nature of law and society, but i agree that the presence of police deters certain types of law breaking, but i don't agree that the types of law breaking being deterred really count as 'crime' as such.

but that's because i don't view any violation of any law as automatically an inherent wrong, and we've established this is just a fundamental difference in how you and i view the world, so i'll leave it alone.

 

[Gospel]

Wow.