Why Don't We Murder More White People? Interesting video...

[repoman]

The statement at 10:19 is the most intense in my opinion.

Not sure what to say about this, it needs to be seen to be understood.

It was shown in 2019 at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts.

https://ybca.org/art-critical-conversations/

It was uploaded by a guy on my political team which is cool.


I tried to rip it with youtube-dl and got this error message for the first time

ERROR: Video unavailable
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Natalie Hoole .

but it is still up in the U.S.

It was made by Jonathan Garcia, but Natalie Hoole, who may be the British leftist has claimed it?

 

[Gospel]

Out of curiosity what is the statement at 10:19? I'm at work and under duress (surrounded by white people) so it's not the best idea to click on something with a title like that.

 

[repoman]

Out of curiosity what is the statement at 10:19? I'm at work and under duress (surrounded by white people) so it's not the best idea to click on something with a title like that.

This is it from a young woman who may be Latina.

I think the insidious nature of whiteness begins at a very, very young age. And because of the historic tie we have to white children as pure members of our society, we do not address the harm and the evil that they inherently bring to communities of color, to the school playground, to the classroom, to wherever they are.

We don't address that because they are too young and the criminalization and ways we adultify children of color a disproportionate rate to white children is horrible.

 

[Trausti]

Out of curiosity what is the statement at 10:19? I'm at work and under duress (surrounded by white people) so it's not the best idea to click on something with a title like that.

This is it from a young woman who may be Latina.

I think the insidious nature of whiteness begins at a very, very young age. And because of the historic tie we have to white children as pure members of our society, we do not address the harm and the evil that they inherently bring to communities of color, to the school playground, to the classroom, to wherever they are.

We don't address that because they are too young and the criminalization and ways we adultify children of color a disproportionate rate to white children is horrible.

The harm and evil white children bring is evident by the lack of violence and conflict at predominantly black schools.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Out of curiosity what is the statement at 10:19? I'm at work and under duress (surrounded by white people) so it's not the best idea to click on something with a title like that.

This is it from a young woman who may be Latina.

I think the insidious nature of whiteness begins at a very, very young age. And because of the historic tie we have to white children as pure members of our society, we do not address the harm and the evil that they inherently bring to communities of color, to the school playground, to the classroom, to wherever they are.

We don't address that because they are too young and the criminalization and ways we adultify children of color a disproportionate rate to white children is horrible.

Yea, this person will really help with race problems!

 

[Swammerdami]

Life is a very complicated lottery. We encounter good luck and bad luck; much of the "luck" is due to external factors beyond our control: genes, upbringing, inherited wealth, serious mental or physical injury. Blindness, for example, is a piece of bad luck that may be a dominant context for an entire life.

In America, prejudice against blacks — which takes various forms — is a dominant factor in blacks' lives. This fact is something that is quite clear to blacks every day of their lives. Whites can appreciate this only with difficulty. Watching videos like OP's is one way for whites to learn this.

Years ago I watched a video showing a class for 18 year-olds given by a specialist in race relations. She had these kids play a game: Those with blue eyes became an "out group" to be ridiculed by the brown-eyed kids. The kids all understood this was a game; obviously they all knew that at the end of an hour everything would be back to normal. There was no physical violence or anything like that; the kids just sat in their chairs and interacted minimally. Yet one blue-eyed girl became enraged and tearful and had to leave the room! A silly less-than-hour-long game was intolerable for her; but this is a life-long struggle for blacks.

This is it from a young woman who may be Latina.

Yea, this person will really help with race problems!

I think you're trying to send a message with sarcasm. The message that gets across is that you are unable or unwilling to empathize. You didn't even watch the video, did you?

 

[J842P]

In America, prejudice against blacks — which takes various forms — is a dominant factor in blacks' lives. This fact is something that is quite clear to blacks every day of their lives. Whites can appreciate this only with difficulty. Watching videos like OP's is one way for whites to learn this.

How do you know this? Have you asked all "the blacks" you know? How many do you know?

Do you think what these kids are saying is representative of the opinions and experiences of most people of color? Because to me, it doesn't sound like it. It sounds like these are kids, born on or around 1996, and who have been indoctrinated with a particular ideology that is increasingly dominant in primary, secondary, and tertiary education in the US and Anglosphere. This definitely doesn't sound like the typical black or brown person you'd meet in America. Indeed, the funny thing here is that their entire framework is one made up in the very whiteness they are describing.


Also, let me guess, you are white?

 

[Gospel]

I'm not sure how I feel about the video. I do know that you can't start a conversation that was started centuries ago so a conversation starter it is not. It does have the potential to provide some unpopular aspects to a viewer who is not familiar with the whole being a brown person thing. However, it's like the bible, which can be used by both good and ill-willed people to drive an agenda. I personally learned nothing new from it and didn't take away anything meaningful. To each his own I guess.

 

[J842P]

I'm not sure how I feel about the video. I do know that you can't start a conversation that was started centuries ago so a conversation starter it is not. It does have the potential to provide some unpopular aspects to a viewer who is not familiar with the whole being a brown person thing. However, it's like the bible, which can be used by both good and ill-willed people to drive an agenda. I personally learned nothing new from it and didn't take away anything meaningful. To each his own I guess.

You think that video and those people are representative of a "brown person's" views generally?

 

[Gospel]

You think that video and those people are representative of a "brown person's" views generally?

It does have the potential to provide some unpopular aspects to a viewer who is not familiar with the whole being a brown person thing.

Did you mean to ask a different question?

 

[J842P]

You think that video and those people are representative of a "brown person's" views generally?

It does have the potential to provide some unpopular aspects to a viewer who is not familiar with the whole being a brown person thing.

Did you mean to ask a different question?

No. I didn't. It seems to me, you are saying this video is informative (provides unpopular aspects?) to a viewer with is not familiar with being a brown person. Am I interpreting that correctly?

 

[Gospel]

Did you mean to ask a different question?

No. I didn't. It seems to me, you are saying this video is informative (provides unpopular aspects?) to a viewer with is not familiar with being a brown person. Am I interpreting that correctly?

If by unpopular you mean not liked then yeah, you're interpreting me correctly. For example, I don't wake up every morning thinking about white people & every second of my days on earth aren't influenced by white people either. The video seems to give off that vibe which for a layman (person unfamiliar with being a brown person) would be misled into believing that's a thing.

Edit: I meant "misled into believing that's a thing for all black people".

 

[Gospel]

The above is my gripe with the video. I meant to also add that the video can be useful to the unfamiliar depending on who that person is and how they interpret it. Long story short, if the viewer doesn't take the video as an all-encompassing unified black voice (which it doesn't claim to be) it may be useful.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Did you mean to ask a different question?

No. I didn't. It seems to me, you are saying this video is informative (provides unpopular aspects?) to a viewer with is not familiar with being a brown person. Am I interpreting that correctly?

If by unpopular you mean not liked then yeah, you're interpreting me correctly. For example, I don't wake up every morning thinking about white people & every second of my days on earth aren't influenced by white people either. The video seems to give off that vibe which for a layman (person unfamiliar with being a brown person) would be misled into believing that's a thing.

Edit: I meant "misled into believing that's a thing for all black people".

I think that above is exactly correct. Look, I'm happy that many white people are trying to correct past (and current) wrongs. Great deal. Let's go. But at the end of the day, I don't either wake up in the morning searching for wrongs that have been committed by white people. Reflection is great. But claiming that all wrongs are committed by white people is like saying that the only aspects in life that matter are those that are controlled by white people. I'm sorry to say, but it's a little demeaning. We've got to come together. I don't think that the video is bring people together. But that's just my opinion.

 

[Gospel]

If by unpopular you mean not liked then yeah, you're interpreting me correctly. For example, I don't wake up every morning thinking about white people & every second of my days on earth aren't influenced by white people either. The video seems to give off that vibe which for a layman (person unfamiliar with being a brown person) would be misled into believing that's a thing.

Edit: I meant "misled into believing that's a thing for all black people".

I think that above is exactly correct. Look, I'm happy that many white people are trying to correct past (and current) wrongs. Great deal. Let's go. But at the end of the day, I don't either wake up in the morning searching for wrongs that have been committed by white people. Reflection is great. But claiming that all wrongs are committed by white people is like saying that the only aspects in life that matter are those that are controlled by white people. I'm sorry to say, but it's a little demeaning. We've got to come together. I don't think that the video is bring people together. But that's just my opinion.

I can dig it.

 

[Swammerdami]

I didn't research the provenance of that video, but I think it was devised — perhaps even scripted — to make a point. It was not candid interviews, but that's how some in the thread are treating it.

In America, prejudice against blacks — which takes various forms — is a dominant factor in blacks' lives. This fact is something that is quite clear to blacks every day of their lives. Whites can appreciate this only with difficulty. Watching videos like OP's is one way for whites to learn this.

How do you know this? Have you asked all "the blacks" you know? How many do you know?

I'm sorry if you think I implied that all blacks think alike. Is that what you think?

You guessed right: I am white. And frankly I haven't known many blacks. I spent 12 years attending school in one slightly affluent California school district and do not remember a single black ever attending my school! (We did have an Asian once — boy, did many of us like to ridicule him!)

My mom went out of her way to make me friends with a black boy my own age: he literally lived on the "opposite side of the tracks" where realtors DID show homes to black buyers. I learned an interesting story about this black boy: when he was much younger he came home from school one day in tears, and tried to wash the blackness off his skin with soap.

He's not the only black I've known, but what's the point of anecdotes? Is this a contest? How many blacks do you know, whitey? Anyway, an empathetic person can learn about other people from interviews and even works of fiction. Are YOU an empathetic person, J842P?

Do you think what these kids are saying is representative of the opinions and experiences of most people of color? Because to me, it doesn't sound like it. It sounds like these are kids, born on or around 1996, and who have been indoctrinated with a particular ideology that is increasingly dominant in primary, secondary, and tertiary education in the US and Anglosphere. This definitely doesn't sound like the typical black or brown person you'd meet in America. Indeed, the funny thing here is that their entire framework is one made up in the very whiteness they are describing.

Re-read the opening sentence of this post.

Also, let me guess, you are white?

Let me guess, you are NOT an empathetic person, J842P?

 

[J842P]

I didn't research the provenance of that video, but I think it was devised — perhaps even scripted — to make a point. It was not candid interviews, but that's how some in the thread are treating it.



I'm sorry if you think I implied that all blacks think alike. Is that what you think?

Well, yes, this is the impression your words make when you say things about what "blacks" think, and what is clear to "blacks". How else should I interpret this? I mean, not all, of course, But I think it is a pretty clear implication that this perspective is characteristic of what black Americans think generally.

You guessed right: I am white. And frankly I haven't known many blacks. I spent 12 years attending school in one slightly affluent California school district and do not remember a single black ever attending my school! (We did have an Asian once — boy, did many of us like to ridicule him!)

My mom went out of her way to make me friends with a black boy my own age: he literally lived on the "opposite side of the tracks" where realtors DID show homes to black buyers. I learned an interesting story about this black boy: when he was much younger he came home from school one day in tears, and tried to wash the blackness off his skin with soap.

He's not the only black I've known, but what's the point of anecdotes? Is this a contest? How many blacks do you know, whitey? Anyway, an empathetic person can learn about other people from interviews and even works of fiction. Are YOU an empathetic person, J842P?

Do you think what these kids are saying is representative of the opinions and experiences of most people of color? Because to me, it doesn't sound like it. It sounds like these are kids, born on or around 1996, and who have been indoctrinated with a particular ideology that is increasingly dominant in primary, secondary, and tertiary education in the US and Anglosphere. This definitely doesn't sound like the typical black or brown person you'd meet in America. Indeed, the funny thing here is that their entire framework is one made up in the very whiteness they are describing.

Re-read the opening sentence of this post.

Also, let me guess, you are white?

Let me guess, you are NOT an empathetic person, J842P?

I would say I am empathetic. Also, I am not white, I am ethnically Central American. I know many non-white people, like my whole extended family, and many peers growing up. I knew plenty of black people, and people from all sorts of backgrounds. I grew up in a pretty cosmopolitan area.