Wisconsin Repubs feeling their anti-labor oats try to pass more anti-labor legislation

[ksen]

Rep. Hutton: Odds of repealing prevailing wage in Wisconsin 'better than 50 percent'

Under current law, workers on local and state construction projects must be paid what's called a prevailing wage set by the state.

Hutton and other critics of the prevailing wage say the requirement over-inflates the costs of publicly funded projects at the expense of taxpayers.

Opponents of the bill argue that repealing the prevailing wage would result in lower wages, ultimately harming the middle class and driving skilled workers away from Wisconsin.

Now after making it harder to form a union in Wisconsin the state Republican legislators are going to try and make it harder for some workers on state contracts to even make a living.

Good job republicans!

 

[Nice Squirrel]

The companies are still going to bill the same amount. The wages are a smaller part of the cost of large projects.

 

[untermensche]

They have a new State slogan.

Come to Wisconsin, your labor is worth less.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Well, you will lose a couple thousand in wages, but the up side is your taxes will be $150/yr less.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The "prevailing" wage is usually what the unions say it is and it's not connected to reality of non-government contracts.

 

[ksen]

I don't believe you

 

[Nice Squirrel]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

 

[bleubird]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

If it is federal funded project workers get Davis/Bacon wages.It may seem high to some,but, adjusted for inflation, these are skilled jobs and I for one would hope that bridge I cross was built buy the best that money could get in the bidding.
I like the German model for manufacturing.The unions take care of training and the safety standards.I bet management is willing to pay better wages to get this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre
History man!

 

[Nice Squirrel]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

Actually the way the prevailing wage is calculated is defined in the current law and this is what I am referencing. But don't let this fact get in the way of some good ol' fashioned ideological union bashing.

 

[laughing dog]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

According to this site (http://www.wilaborers.org/departments/legislative/prevailingwagefaqs) you are misinformed:

Is prevailing wage union scale?

Prevailing wage is not "union scale." "Prevailing wage" is determined by wage and benefit surveys of the local construction market that are conducted periodically by the Department of Labor for federally funded projects, or annually by the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development for state and local projects. Depending on the local market, resulting prevailing wage rates can be 1) collectively bargained rates, 2) a mix of collectively bargained and non-bargained rates, or 3) a weighted average of wage rates. Only when collectively bargained wage rates are shown to prevail in an area, based on these survey results, will the prevailing wage be the same as the "union scale."

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

According to this site (http://www.wilaborers.org/departments/legislative/prevailingwagefaqs) you are misinformed:

Is prevailing wage union scale?

Prevailing wage is not "union scale." "Prevailing wage" is determined by wage and benefit surveys of the local construction market that are conducted periodically by the Department of Labor for federally funded projects, or annually by the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development for state and local projects. Depending on the local market, resulting prevailing wage rates can be 1) collectively bargained rates, 2) a mix of collectively bargained and non-bargained rates, or 3) a weighted average of wage rates. Only when collectively bargained wage rates are shown to prevail in an area, based on these survey results, will the prevailing wage be the same as the "union scale."

You expect a union website to admit what's going on?

 

[ksen]

You expect a union website to admit what's going on?

expect a union website to admit what's going on?

a union website to admit what's going on?

union website to admit what's going on?

website to admit what's going on?

to admit what's going on?

what's going on?

 

[arkirk]

"Prevailing wage" is the prevailing local wage for a trade or profession in the county the project is in. What this bill allows is for companies to hire out of state workers for lower wages than the locals make. (including illegal aliens.)

The Koch Bros have paid for supporting commercials for this bill.

The prevailing wage is what the unions get on government contracts. There are often other companies doing the same sort of work at lower wages.

Cmon Loren! Prevailing wages are determined by survey. You appear to be in perfectly trusting of the Koch Bros. My guess is you also doubt there is such a thing as global warming. This move is just another cheesy issue from the Wisconsin statehouse. What is wrong with Wisconsin?

 

[Axulus]

The law should simply be "pay enough wages to get enough competent workers to finish the job that fulfills all specifications of the job and other industry accepted common standards."

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You expect a union website to admit what's going on?

expect a union website to admit what's going on?

a union website to admit what's going on?

union website to admit what's going on?

website to admit what's going on?

to admit what's going on?

what's going on?

Another non-response.

Did I commit blasphemy in suggesting a union website might not be telling the whole story?

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The law should simply be "pay enough wages to get enough competent workers to finish the job that fulfills all specifications of the job and other industry accepted common standards."

Which wouldn't need a law at all.

 

[laughing dog]

According to this site (http://www.wilaborers.org/departments/legislative/prevailingwagefaqs) you are misinformed:

Is prevailing wage union scale?

Prevailing wage is not "union scale." "Prevailing wage" is determined by wage and benefit surveys of the local construction market that are conducted periodically by the Department of Labor for federally funded projects, or annually by the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development for state and local projects. Depending on the local market, resulting prevailing wage rates can be 1) collectively bargained rates, 2) a mix of collectively bargained and non-bargained rates, or 3) a weighted average of wage rates. Only when collectively bargained wage rates are shown to prevail in an area, based on these survey results, will the prevailing wage be the same as the "union scale."

You expect a union website to admit what's going on?

I don't expect them to automatically lie or post misinformation. Another poster pointed out you are wrong. I substantiated that observation with a link to a site. And until you come up with any relevant evidence to show that website is incorrect or misleading, there is absolutely no reason to accept your "interpretation" of how the prevailing wage is determined in Wisconsin.