Yes, Rand, and some people hear voices in their head

[Axulus]

Doesn't mean the things you hear are true:

Rand Paul says he’s heard of vaccines leading to “profound mental disorders” in children

On Monday, Sen. Rand Paul said that he'd heard of "many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines" — a concern that has not been substantiated despite years and years of scientific research into the topic.

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/2/7966839/rand-paul-vaccines-autism

 

[Mageth]

One could get the same correlation with eating Cheerios. Cheerios cause autism!

 

[untermensche]

This man is nothing but a politician.

Right now he is concerned with the insane Republican primary voters not science.

My guess is the focus groupers have told him not to alienate stupid and irresponsible parents who don't get their children vaccinated.

And mass vaccination is good socialism in action. The individual submits for the good of society, not merely to protect themselves.

 

[laughing dog]

Doesn't mean the things you hear are true:

Rand Paul says he’s heard of vaccines leading to “profound mental disorders” in children

On Monday, Sen. Rand Paul said that he'd heard of "many tragic cases of walking, talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines" — a concern that has not been substantiated despite years and years of scientific research into the topic.

http://www.vox.com/2015/2/2/7966839/rand-paul-vaccines-autism

I think Sen. Paul speaks from personal experience.

 

[SimpleDon]

Finally, a meeting of the minds between the crazy right and the crazy left, anti-Vacs

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky took a firm position Monday on the side of
people who say vaccination is a personal choice, overshadowing similar
comments made earlier in the day by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a fellow
Republican, and inserting himself into a hot debate that will likely resurface if
the senator runs for president.

Mr. Paul, who is an eye doctor, said on CNBC that “the state doesn't own your
children” and that “profound medical disorders” sometimes occur after vaccines.
He also appeared to lose his temper later in the interview, telling the host Kelly
Evans to “calm down” so that he could finish his response.

“You’ve taken the interview and you’ve made it into something where you got no
useful information because you were argumentative,” Mr. Paul said.

I have rheumatoid arthritis, disease caused by an overactive autoimmune system. As a result I take what is known as a TNF inhibitor, Orencia and a chemotherapy drug, basically a poison, Methotrexate, to suppress my immune system. If I don't take them not only will I have severe joint pain, the disease will cripple me, starting with my fingers, toes, hands, feet and moving on to the larger joints.

Anytime I get an infection or a fever I have to stop the drugs and check into the hospital. A simple cold or flu can be enough to kill me. I can't take any live vaccines, what are called attenuated vaccines, this includes the measles and the shingles vaccines. I had a terrible case of the shingles this fall as a result. It took me more than a month to get over it because I had to choose between a long time with shingles or the pain and joint damage from stopping the immune suppressing drugs.

I rely on the herd immunity to help keep me safe.

These people like Paul, Jenny McCarthy and Andrew Wakefield are assholes who directly threaten my life.

 

[SimpleDon]

More from the CNBC interview.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) doubled down on his position that most vaccines should be voluntary, suggesting Monday that mandated immunization is an example of government overreach.

“The state doesn’t own your children,” Paul said in an interview with CNBC’s “Closing Bell.” “Parents own the children, and it is an issue of freedom and public health.”

[…]

In a heated interview with CNBC host Kelly Evans, Paul expressed support for vaccination but bristled at the idea that it should be mandatory.

“I guess being for freedom would be really unusual,” he said sarcastically at the start of the exchange.

Paul also acknowledged hearing about cases in which healthy kids were left with “profound mental disorders” after being vaccinated.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is Rand Paul vaccinated?

 

[SimpleDon]

Is Rand Paul vaccinated?

I don't know. But he owns his children!

 

[Derec]

He heard it from Michelle Bachmann

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Is Rand Paul vaccinated?

I don't know. But he owns his children!

Well, it makes little sense to lease, with the fees and all.

 

[bilby]

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky took a firm position Monday on the side of
people who say driving while drunk is a personal choice, overshadowing similar
comments made earlier in the day by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a fellow
Republican, and inserting himself into a hot debate that will likely resurface if
the senator runs for president.

Mr. Paul, who is an eye doctor, said on CNBC that “the state doesn't own your
car” and that “profound medical disorders” sometimes occur after walking home from bars.



Remember everyone, only the individual counts. As a free person, you have the right, no, the DUTY, to act selfishly, and must never, under any circumstances consider the effects your selfish behaviour might have on other people, because social responsibility is basically communism. I have only one question for people who want me to vaccinate my kids, or refrain from driving while intoxicated: Why do you hate America?

 

[Metaphor]

The State does not own any children, because children are not property able to be owned.

If Rand Paul thinks parents own their children, presumably he believes parents ought to be able to kill and eat their children, as you may do to cattle if you own them.

Rand Paul thinks parents should be able to kill and eat their children.

 

[Axulus]

The State does not own any children, because children are not property able to be owned.

If Rand Paul thinks parents own their children, presumably he believes parents ought to be able to kill and eat their children, as you may do to cattle if you own them.

Rand Paul thinks parents should be able to kill and eat their children.

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

The guy may be an idiot when it comes to vaccines, but I don't think that necessarily entails a belief in parental ownership of children and, even if it does, that the ownership rights are equivalent to animal ownership rights.

 

[EricK]

The State does not own any children, because children are not property able to be owned.

If Rand Paul thinks parents own their children, presumably he believes parents ought to be able to kill and eat their children, as you may do to cattle if you own them.

Rand Paul thinks parents should be able to kill and eat their children.

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

The guy may be an idiot when it comes to vaccines, but I don't think that necessarily entails a belief in parental ownership of children and, even if it does, that the ownership rights are equivalent to animal ownership rights.

If his argument is that government can't decide whether or not to vaccinate a child simply because it does not own the children, and he thinks that parents can decide whether or not to vaccinate their children, then he can't consistently believe that parents don't own their children.

 

[Bomb#20]

The State does not own any children, because children are not property able to be owned.

If Rand Paul thinks parents own their children, presumably he believes parents ought to be able to kill and eat their children, as you may do to cattle if you own them.

Rand Paul thinks parents should be able to kill and eat their children.

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

The guy may be an idiot when it comes to vaccines, but I don't think that necessarily entails a belief in parental ownership of children and, even if it does, that the ownership rights are equivalent to animal ownership rights.

Well, on the one hand, yes, we do.

"But I think the parent should have some input. The state doesn't own your children. Parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom." - Rand Paul

On the other hand, just because you may kill and eat cattle if you own them, it in no way follows that you may kill and eat children if you own them. Under California law you may kill cats and dogs if you own them, but you may not eat them. South Australia has a similar provision. There's really very little stopping legislators from making arbitrary distinctions to their hearts' content apart from the odd constitutional protection and their anatomical lack of hearts.

 

[arkirk]

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

The guy may be an idiot when it comes to vaccines, but I don't think that necessarily entails a belief in parental ownership of children and, even if it does, that the ownership rights are equivalent to animal ownership rights.

Well, on the one hand, yes, we do.

"But I think the parent should have some input. The state doesn't own your children. Parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom." - Rand Paul

On the other hand, just because you may kill and eat cattle if you own them, it in no way follows that you may kill and eat children if you own them. Under California law you may kill cats and dogs if you own them, but you may not eat them. South Australia has a similar provision. There's really very little stopping legislators from making arbitrary distinctions to their hearts' content apart from the odd constitutional protection and their anatomical lack of hearts.

So you've noticed too. The heart actually atrophies when one consumes too many talking points. It is still there, only in a much diminished form.

 

[Metaphor]

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

You mean the quote where he says 'parents own the children'?

 

[Medicine Man]

How is it, that one Party is so fortunate as to attract....​

...All The Crazy Doctors?

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[Metaphor]

I know you are just taking the premise to its logical conclusion, but do we have any evidence that Rand Paul accepts the premise, that parent's own their children or should own their children?

The guy may be an idiot when it comes to vaccines, but I don't think that necessarily entails a belief in parental ownership of children and, even if it does, that the ownership rights are equivalent to animal ownership rights.

Well, on the one hand, yes, we do.

"But I think the parent should have some input. The state doesn't own your children. Parents own the children and it is an issue of freedom." - Rand Paul

On the other hand, just because you may kill and eat cattle if you own them, it in no way follows that you may kill and eat children if you own them. Under California law you may kill cats and dogs if you own them, but you may not eat them. South Australia has a similar provision. There's really very little stopping legislators from making arbitrary distinctions to their hearts' content apart from the odd constitutional protection and their anatomical lack of hearts.

Yes, the arbitrary distinctions that the legislature has made makes my rhetorical flourish merely poetic rather than factual.

Nevertheless, Rand Paul does think parents can own their children. Also, we do know how people have treated sentient beings they own: for example, pets and slaves.

I guess a good follow up question is: do owned children have at least the rights afforded to pets or slaves?

 

[Medicine Man]

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky took a firm position Monday on the side of people who say driving while drunk is a personal choice, overshadowing similar comments made earlier in the day by Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, a fellow Republican, and inserting himself into a hot debate that will likely resurface if the senator runs for president.

Mr. Paul, who is an eye doctor, said on CNBC that “the state doesn't own your car” and that “profound medical disorders” sometimes occur after walking home from bars.



Remember everyone, only the individual counts. As a free person, you have the right, no, the DUTY, to act selfishly, and must never, under any circumstances consider the effects your selfish behaviour might have on other people, because social responsibility is basically communism.

C'mon...c'mon....seriously....you're THAT willing to plagiarize the House Teabaggers' charter??!!!

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