(Split) Alito's RvW Decision And Its Effects On The Midterm Elections

[ZiprHead]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

If women turn out in higher numbers, the Dems win-ish, but the gerrymandering would limit the gains. But it won't lead to much on the abortion front.

 

[Ford]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

This assumes that the Democrats would actually be able to effectively capitalize on the decision. Unemployment is historically low, the stock market is through the roof, wages are up, businesses are fighting over who can attract the most workers, plus we appear to be finally out of the woods on the pandemic front, with people getting back to work, school, concerts, movies, baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet.

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

This assumes that the Democrats would actually be able to effectively capitalize on the decision. Unemployment is historically low, the stock market is through the roof, wages are up, businesses are fighting over who can attract the most workers, plus we appear to be finally out of the woods on the pandemic front, with people getting back to work, school, concerts, movies, baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet.

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

This is going to be something. Women typically edge towards Dems, so if they turn out in higher numbers (especially younger women), that'll be a difficult thing to fight against, if Congress wasn't gerrymandered. The Dems could actually win by a good deal and take back only one or two seats.

 

[TomC]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

Sad but true.

I fully expect bluish American voters to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They're too determined to express their ideological purity to turn out the vote.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

The collective incompetence is truly impressive.

 

[TomC]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

The collective incompetence is truly impressive.

Are you referring to the collective incompetence of Democrats? Leftists?
Who?

It's obvious that TeaPartiers are far more competent at getting elected.
Tom

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

Sad but true.

I fully expect bluish American voters to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They're too determined to express their ideological purity to turn out the vote.
Tom

What the fuck are you talking about? The Dems aren't doing well because the media likes to rattle sabres with the party in charge. Moderate voters raped the Dems in 2010 for ACA, of which is positively viewed these days, which has directly led to the issues we are seeing with Gerrymandering across the country both in state and Federal districting.

In the last 15 months, the Dems have managed to get some stuff accomplished via the Miracle of Georgia, with the GOP members of Congress again showing no interest in getting involved. It has actually been even more miraculous. They managed a Senate maneuver to get more than one thing passed without needing a filibuster proof majority.

 

[ZiprHead]

I've said it before, let the Republicans have their way and their popularity would drop like a rock in a river.

 

[Elixir]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

The collective incompetence is truly impressive.

Are you referring to the collective incompetence of Democrats? Leftists?
Who?

It's obvious that TeaPartiers are far more competent at getting elected.
Tom

I was talking about the Democrats. I totally understand that any big tent is going to be diverse and therefore hard to control, but on a national level it’s hard to imagine them doing a worse job of messaging.

 

[Ford]

I've said it before, let the Republicans have their way and their popularity would drop like a rock in a river.

Unfortunately, if they have their way (House and Senate, pass voting restrictions and even more gerrymandering, etc.) their popularity won't matter.

Remember, they tried to overturn an election they lost in a landslide, and while Democrats are investigating, Republicans are studying the "game film" and adjusting their strategy for 2022 and 2024. Figuring out a way to "win" the elections even if they don't win a majority of votes. Once they accomplish that? That rock could be buried a mile under the river and it wouldn't be a factor.

 

[Harry Bosch]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

The collective incompetence is truly impressive.

Are you referring to the collective incompetence of Democrats? Leftists?
Who?

It's obvious that TeaPartiers are far more competent at getting elected.
Tom

Totally agree with you. The left has superior numbers. There are more registered dems than republicans. Millions more. But we are divided and unmotivated. The republicans kick our ass.

 

[TV and credit cards]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

This assumes that the Democrats would actually be able to effectively capitalize on the decision. Unemployment is historically low, the stock market is through the roof, wages are up, businesses are fighting over who can attract the most workers, plus we appear to be finally out of the woods on the pandemic front, with people getting back to work, school, concerts, movies, baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet.

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

I think gas and groceries have something to do with it. It negates all the good in people’s lives. It’s a bitter pill people have to swallow every week.
“One aw, shit wipes out a thousand atta boys”.

 

[Jarhyn]

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

The collective incompetence is truly impressive.

Are you referring to the collective incompetence of Democrats? Leftists?
Who?

It's obvious that TeaPartiers are far more competent at getting elected.
Tom

Totally agree with you. The left has superior numbers. There are more registered dems than republicans. Millions more. But we are divided and unmotivated. The republicans kick our ass.

I think this all comes down to motive, really.

Every conservative out there that I have ever met knowingly, has a desire to take power over others. They all have some desire to be some kind of a controlling shit, and not just in a safe-word "please use different arbitrary tokens to refer to me" kind of way but rather "you take off that bra and dress and put on this Tshirt and slacks instead and quit acting like a woman and YOU better get barefoot and pregnant and in a kitchen right now OR ELSE!"

They have a fundamental desire to do some thing that we all demand they not.

Progress to us is fewer of them taking fascistic power over others.

So of course they unite, strongly, heavily, against these restrictions on their power over others. It is their one common enemy and their desire to do these things is central to who they are as people.

Progressives want to be more, to explore themselves and to become stranger and more absurd by degrees. We seek MORE, but the sad admission here is that we can still survive with less.

The conservative cannot. They MUST seek this power over others merely to maintain their slipping sanity. It is a demand from something deep inside them, a fundamental push to EXERCISE POWER OVER.

So compared to the desire to become more, versus the desire to become that which their biological urges goad them to be, the conservative will always show more basic motivation.

it is just a motivation that stands to be opposed, because taking power over others, no matter how badly conservatives want to, is something to be opposed and stopped.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I've said it before, let the Republicans have their way and their popularity would drop like a rock in a river.

They have had their way, the W and Trump Admins were utter flops. But golly... they got to appoint five justices to SCOTUS and now the GOP is really going to get their way, and there will be suffering. And people will still vote for these fools.

 

[Bomb#20]

One thing is for sure.This is going to make the upcoming midterms very interesting.

This assumes that the Democrats would actually be able to effectively capitalize on the decision. Unemployment is historically low, the stock market is through the roof, wages are up, businesses are fighting over who can attract the most workers, plus we appear to be finally out of the woods on the pandemic front, with people getting back to work, school, concerts, movies, baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet.

It should be a "morning in America" moment for Dems to cruise to an easy victory in November. Instead, they can barely get a coherent message out, and Biden's approval ratings are in the toilet.

This is going to be something. Women typically edge towards Dems, so if they turn out in higher numbers (especially younger women), that'll be a difficult thing to fight against, if Congress wasn't gerrymandered. The Dems could actually win by a good deal and take back only one or two seats.

It seems to me there's a good chance the draft opinion was leaked by one of the conservative clerks*, precisely to forestall that outcome. The leak benefits the Republicans by moving the outrage further away from election day. When the actual opinion is handed down in a couple of months it will no longer be news.

(* Or perhaps, as my wife theorizes, by Ginni Thomas.)

 

[steve_bank]

The release of the SCOTUS opinion does seem to be a convenient rally point for democrats considering they are generally considered to be the underdogs in the upcoming elections.

In the reporting the race card is being played. Banning abortion disproportionately affects black women.

The current abortion issue is the usual political theater. This time democrats claim SCOTUS is biased. Both sides try their best to nominate justices that support their views then claim the other side is biased.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The release of the SCOTUS opinion does seem to be a convenient rally point for democrats considering they are generally considered to be the underdogs in the upcoming elections.

Except, liberals need to be enticed to vote, when the polls are open. This releasing later, and notably closer to the election, would have been better partisan wise.

In the reporting the race card is being played. Banning abortion disproportionately affects black women.

The current abortion issue is the usual political theater. This time democrats claim SCOTUS is biased.

Biased? Have you read the decision draft?! Alito appears to take a swipe at the "right to privacy". The decision is planting seeds to undo a bunch of rights.

Both sides try their best to nominate justices that support their views then claim the other side is biased.

Moore-Coulter. Kennedy and O'Connor were conservative justices and always voted in favor of abortion rights. Only CJ Roberts can be considered "conservative". The remaining are ultra-conservative. Kavanaugh was a question mark, but him signing off on Alito's decision, that gets him the "ultra" label added.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I've said it before, let the Republicans have their way and their popularity would drop like a rock in a river.

It doesn't really matter how popular a dictatorship is.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I was talking about the Democrats. I totally understand that any big tent is going to be diverse and therefore hard to control, but on a national level it’s hard to imagine them doing a worse job of messaging.

Democrats are cats, Republicans are dogs.