Are you under the impression that "lie" is a word that means "say something Gospel doesn't believe"?
No. This means I don't have to answer your other bullshit question right?
Are you under the impression that "lie" is a word that means "say something Gospel doesn't believe"?
Ford did WAY back in pointing out that the bomb of the 20 hashtags or whatever was making a disingenuous argument, the disingenuousness being either in the sale of this bill as banning CRT or in the failure of the bill to actually ban "CRT".Hey guys, thanks for making me go look up the word -- learn something new every day!
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I'm just curious how you found this. Nobody mentioned "disingenuous," did they?
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Using feigned obtuseness to defend against an observation of obtuseness backfires.Hey guys, thanks for making me go look up the word -- learn something new every day!I think you meant “obtuse”, but naive is shorter.He wasn't accusing you of dishonesty. Just noting that you are arguing the hopelessly naïve (at best) side of this, while Oleg has gone full CRT.When you accuse somebody of dishonesty, finding that to justify your claim you need to put words in his mouth should be a red flag to you that your brain has malfunctioned. Your behavior is an object lesson in the Dunning–Kruger effect.
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Using feigned obtuseness to defend against an observation of obtuseness backfires.
Oh God I can't unsee it I hate you both.Using feigned obtuseness to defend against an observation of obtuseness backfires.
Wow. I’m up to at least fours ways to read that sentence, and not done yet.
Yes, Ford answered one of my posts with "Oh look! A disingenuous argument!". That's what started this whole spat.Hey guys, thanks for making me go look up the word -- learn something new every day!
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I'm just curious how you found this. Nobody mentioned "disingenuous," did they?
Bingo. As you observed, "disingenuous" doesn't make the cut. So when JH and LD rushed to Ford's defense, arguing he was only calling me naive or obtuse, they were being ridiculous. So I pointed out they were being ridiculous.When I Google "site:thesaurus.com naive obtuse" the top hits are ...
Where "WAY back" means "two days earlier". Some of us still have to work for a living.Ford did WAY back
That. Exactly how some purported impropriety on the part of the legislators in writing and/or selling their bill was supposed to make my argument disingenuous, Ford didn't bother to explain, but I guess that's between him and his religion.in pointing out that the bomb of the 20 hashtags or whatever was making a disingenuous argument, the disingenuousness being either in the sale of this bill as banning CRT or in the failure of the bill to actually ban "CRT".
No, the fact that it's a free country means you don't have to answer my other question. But since you know "lie" is not a word that means "say something Gospel doesn't believe", it follows that you ought to recognize that your earlier answer to my earlier question can't be right.Are you under the impression that "lie" is a word that means "say something Gospel doesn't believe"?
No. This means I don't have to answer your other ... question right?
No, you didn't say how the laws lie to everyone. You only said how the laws tell everyone something you don't believe. You didn't say how that's a lie -- you didn't say how the laws tell everyone something the laws' authors don't believe.How do the laws lie to everyone? Do you mean the thing they confirm everyone's fears of is a thing the legislators who enacted the laws believe not to exist?Lying to everyone by confirming their fears of something that does not exist.What do you think the mechanism is by which the laws you're talking about affect everyone?
I think you should seek help. I said how in the post you replied to....
I explained it. You even linked it. My explanation stands.Yes, Ford answered one of my posts with "Oh look! A disingenuous argument!". That's what started this whole spat.Hey guys, thanks for making me go look up the word -- learn something new every day!
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I'm just curious how you found this. Nobody mentioned "disingenuous," did they?
https://iidb.org/threads/anti-crt-hysteria.26627/page-2#post-1052254
Bingo. As you observed, "disingenuous" doesn't make the cut. So when JH and LD rushed to Ford's defense, arguing he was only calling me naive or obtuse, they were being ridiculous. So I pointed out they were being ridiculous.When I Google "site:thesaurus.com naive obtuse" the top hits are ...
Where "WAY back" means "two days earlier". Some of us still have to work for a living.Ford did WAY back
That. Exactly how some purported impropriety on the part of the legislators in writing and/or selling their bill was supposed to make my argument disingenuous, Ford didn't bother to explain, but I guess that's between him and his religion.in pointing out that the bomb of the 20 hashtags or whatever was making a disingenuous argument, the disingenuousness being either in the sale of this bill as banning CRT or in the failure of the bill to actually ban "CRT".
I have to ask these questions, because "CRT" and "Critical Race Theory" do not appear anywhere in the text of HB7.
But you already know from your participation in other threads that various screaming about CRT is being used as a tool by propagandists and such methods include redefining it and promoting legislation that includes the text in this legislation. So you know the legislation is highly associated to CRT. Given you know this association exists, the existence of the phrase Critical Race Theory not only need not be in the bill at all, we all already know, including you, that that's what it is about.
And since gender and sexuality are in there too, it really appears to be a hidden dagger poised yet again to be stabbed towards consent based education.
But you already know from your participation in other threads that various screaming about CRT is being used as a tool by propagandists and such methods include redefining it and promoting legislation that includes the text in this legislation. So you know the legislation is highly associated to CRT. Given you know this association exists, the existence of the phrase Critical Race Theory not only need not be in the bill at all, we all already know, including you, that that's what it is about.
Isn't that the point? CRT makes for a convenient boogeyman as long as its actual definition is vague and malleable... the powers-that-be can claim just about anything they don't like that's even remotely connected to race as "CRT," have it banned, and have the "guilty" parties punished.
And since gender and sexuality are in there too, it really appears to be a hidden dagger poised yet again to be stabbed towards consent based education.
You are 'grooming' them to be capable of saying and hearing 'no' and engaging in empathy.And since gender and sexuality are in there too, it really appears to be a hidden dagger poised yet again to be stabbed towards consent based education.
Which again, is precisely the point. I'm a teacher, so you know I'm "grooming" the kids... for what, the censors don't know, but they know it's bad and must be banned...
FIFY.I explained it. You even linked it. MyThat. Exactly how some purported impropriety on the part of the legislators in writing and/or selling their bill was supposed to make my argument disingenuous, Ford didn't bother to explain, but I guess that's between him and his religion.explanationnon-explanation stands.
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What's your point? What the bejesus does any of that have to do with my attempt to cross-examine Gospel that you and so many others here decided to quote-mine out of context?I have to ask these questions, because "CRT" and "Critical Race Theory" do not appear anywhere in the text of HB7.
But you already know from your participation in other threads that various screaming about CRT is being used as a tool by propagandists and such methods include redefining it and promoting legislation that includes the text in this legislation. So you know the legislation is highly associated to CRT. Given you know this association exists, the existence of the phrase Critical Race Theory not only need not be in the bill at all, we all already know, including you, that "CRT" as it is redefined is there by association.
Isn't that the point? CRT makes for a convenient boogeyman as long as its actual definition is vague and malleable... the powers-that-be can claim just about anything they don't like that's even remotely connected to race as "CRT," have it banned, and have the "guilty" parties punished.But you already know from your participation in other threads that various screaming about CRT is being used as a tool by propagandists and such methods include redefining it and promoting legislation that includes the text in this legislation. So you know the legislation is highly associated to CRT. Given you know this association exists, the existence of the phrase Critical Race Theory not only need not be in the bill at all, we all already know, including you, that that's what it is about.
When you infer that the legislators were disingenuous merely from the difference between how they sold the bill and what the bill actually bans, you appear to be relying on the unstated premise that the term "CRT" means the same thing to the legislators as what the term "CRT" means to you.the disingenuousness being either in the sale of this bill as banning CRT or in the failure of the bill to actually ban "CRT".
If the legislators' true goal were to ban comprehensive discussions conservatives don't like, then what do you think the legislators' motivation was for including a clause reading:The disingenuousness is designed, of course, to hide that the bill was never about CRT but about banning comprehensive discussions conservatives don't like about consent in society.
No, I'm saying no matter what CRT is, it is disingenuous to claim that the bill does not ban whatever the legislators claim it is if you claim they are not disingenuous.When you infer that the legislators were disingenuous merely from the difference between how they sold the bill and what the bill actually bans, you appear to be relying on the unstated premise that the term "CRT" means the same thing to the legislators as what the term "CRT" means to you
If Gospel's theory about the Florida legislators' purposes were correct, then why the devil wouldn't the legislators have explicitly included teaching CRT on their list of prohibitions?