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Mississippi Passes "More Dead Kids Please" bill. Texas responds w/ "hold my beer"

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FFS. Why do you want to mutliate children?

 
Admitted lack of knowledge is not a convincing basis for a position in my view.
Well, no. I’m aware that many European countries have now reversed their position on “gender affirming” mutilation of minors. That’s because the evidence of long-term benefit is lacking. In short, this is all experimental and these children used as guinea pigs.
Applying that reasoning, no improvements in treatment care would ever be adopted.
You assume that a child with atypical gender behavior needs “treatment”; why? Perhaps if adults quit lying to them their “dysphoria” will go away.
Best to just beat it out of them or send them to Marcus Bachmann's "clinic" for "treatment". Got news for you. They don't "grow out of it".
 
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Always a treat to see someone use a fake news site to make an argument.
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I think you misspelled stupid.
Wow. This really hit a nerve.
You’ll survive.
All this gaslighting. We're just supposed to ignore that this wasn't a problem in the past. It only became a problem when adults started to lie and take advantage of vunlerable children. Maybe if you quit telling children that there is something wrong with them, they might not hate themselves.

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All this gaslighting. We're just supposed to ignore that this wasn't a problem in the past. It only became a problem when adults started to lie and take advantage of vunlerable children. Maybe if you quit telling children that there is something wrong with them, they might not hate themselves.

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Source: unknown. One may apply  Hitchens's razor razor to it: "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

That graph suggests some very recent event, something that affects 12th graders of all ideological persuasions. I'd also like to see how this sorts out by demographic variables.

But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives. RIght-wingers angrily asserting their victimhood is something I see all the time.
 
Had the gender cult existed a generation ago, he'd have been mutilated.

 
All this gaslighting. We're just supposed to ignore that this wasn't a problem in the past. It only became a problem when adults started to lie and take advantage of vunlerable children. Maybe if you quit telling children that there is something wrong with them, they might not hate themselves.

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Source: unknown. One may apply  Hitchens's razor razor to it: "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."

That graph suggests some very recent event, something that affects 12th graders of all ideological persuasions. I'd also like to see how this sorts out by demographic variables.

But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives. RIght-wingers angrily asserting their victimhood is something I see all the time.
Oleg isn't good at things like research, so doesn't understand how to cite information or link stuff they have actually read or researched. The interesting thing about that chart is that Oleg doesn't notice the baseline value between 1977 and 2009 of 2.0.

This whole time, we've been told this transgender thing is a lie, yet, he unknowingly presented data that suggests that yes, it is a thing, as shown with the 2.0, which means a decent number of people were not reporting 1 for "strongly disagree", due to the average.
 
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But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives.
Wut?

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You do know that children with ADHD in the 70s and 80s were just children "causing trouble", not children with ADHD. You don't even know what you are talking about, but are very forceful is telling the world just how things you don't understand actually are.
Had the gender cult existed a generation ago, he'd have been mutilated.


I can't imagine how clueless someone has to be to think THIS is the misunderstanding. Monty Python, crossing dressing but straight. Kids in the Hall, cross dressing some straight some gay. Eddie Izzard cross dressing lesbian in a man's body. The alt-right is just so dreadfully ignorant (at best) on transgender.
 
Admitted lack of knowledge is not a convincing basis for a position in my view.
Well, no. I’m aware that many European countries have now reversed their position on “gender affirming” mutilation of minors.
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That’s because the evidence of long-term benefit is lacking.
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In short, this is all experimental and these children used as guinea pigs.
Conclusion built off of nothing but uncited claims that are nothing less that baseless presumptions.
Not to mention that NONE of it is experimental. Brought to you by the same people who fail to teach the history of India's Hijra, or any of the third gender communities whose members included eunuchs, or any of the societies who has eunuchs operate in any special caste roles, who documented things about those eunuchs, including that history is littered with pogroms and eradication of eunuchs.

We have what is the most expansive and well documented medical condition on earth, one documented with human subjects as much as animal subjects going back to the dawn of recorded histories.

It may have been the first surgical procedure ever developed.

It is not experimental.

It is well researched.

It actually increases longevity, not that people seem so interested in it for that.

Blockers make the surgery unnecessary for those who want it's effects for now, until they can be really sure they want to not have testicles.

I am primarily interested in the rights of those who do not want testicles.

People who want testicles do not concern me. There are rights they specifically do not deserve, and those rights are the rights to enter places designated for the common disrobing and ablution of people who may become pregnant from sperms primarily, and for those who have no testicles and ejaculate no sperms.

If such people want to claim threat from those affected by the hormone family of "testosterones", as well, that's also fine by me, I can't argue against that. Studies have shown that trans prison populations are way below trans persons among the public.

Really, the discussion is about eunuchs, and what rights they have, and whether having testicles ought abridge someone's rights.

Oleg argues for the right to call everyone born with testicles "men" and everyone born without testicles and with ovaries "women" (never mind the ones born with both or neither), and to never allow divergence from that.

It means that in teenage years, I think the most appropriate path is blockers for at least six months before a social transition is advised, or to have already been socially self-selected prior to puberty, and blockers through the age of 18 should be seen as sufficient for space access after some initial period, and hormone access after the age of 10 or a period of postponed puberty for at least 3 years after onset (given an acceptable medical definition of onset of puberty), whichever occurs later in life.

The problem I see with this is the psychological zeitgeist that will drive panic against such. Many mothers and at least some fathers want every child to give them grandchildren. Many cultural elements have been laid down over the aeons to ensure it happens, often 'by any means necessary'.

The very existence of eunuchs seems threatening to that will. The right to become one instills the fear that one of their children will be struck by this "disease".

Never mind that all the eunuchs I know are white collar college graduates.

Most eunuchs seek to be "women" socially, and also seek to be effected by estrogen and progesterone. It is only recently that this has become available.

I see no reason to deny them this right, especially seeing as we need to reduce the global population anyway.
 
The Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board, (NHIB/UKOM)


Insufficient knowledge​

The knowledge base, especially research-based knowledge for gender-affirming treatment (hormonal and surgical), is insufficient and the long-term effects are little known. This is particularly true for the teenage population where the stability of their gender incongruence is also not known. There is a lack of research-based knowledge about the treatment of patients with non-binary gender incongruence. In order to safeguard patient safety, Ukom considers it necessary that the knowledge base on gender incongruity and gender dysphoria be strengthened, and that the health service offer be arranged in line with the knowledge base.

Ukom recommends:

that puberty delaying treatment (puberty blockers) and hormonal and surgical gender confirmation treatment for children and young people are defined as experimental treatment. This is particularly important for teenagers with gender dysphoria.
 
This whole time, we've been told this transgender thing is a lie, yet, he unknowingly presented data that suggests that yes, it is a thing, as shown with the 2.0, which means a decent number of people were not reporting 1 for "strongly disagree", due to the average.
"Self-derogation" means "Sometimes I think I am no good at all" and "I feel that my life is not very useful." So since the transmania began, it's gotten worse.
 
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But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives.
Wut?

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You do know that children with ADHD in the 70s and 80s were just children "causing trouble", not children with ADHD. You don't even know what you are talking about, but are very forceful is telling the world just how things you don't understand actually are.
Had the gender cult existed a generation ago, he'd have been mutilated.


I can't imagine how clueless someone has to be to think THIS is the misunderstanding. Monty Python, crossing dressing but straight. Kids in the Hall, cross dressing some straight some gay. Eddie Izzard cross dressing lesbian in a man's body. The alt-right is just so dreadfully ignorant (at best) on transgender.

You're completely missing the point. I fully agree that a man or boy wearing a dress does not mean he's gay or trans.
 
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Not to mention that NONE of it is experimental.
Go ask the Norwegians.

Brought to you by the same people who fail to teach the history of India's Hijra
Yes. Historically, those societies that punished homosexuality drove gay men to present as a third gender. Were you aware that trans is okay in Iran but gay gets you the noose?
included eunuchs
Were you not taught that the purpose of eunuchs was to allow the emperior or sultan male counsel without risk to his concubines or questions on the legitimacy of his offspring? They weren't a third gender or thought of as women.

Really, the discussion is about eunuchs, and what rights they have, and whether having testicles ought abridge someone's rights.
This particular OP - started by you - is about the obssesion of the gender cultists with mutlitating children before they are mature enough to make informed decisions.
 
Yet, liberals, especially liberal women, have worse mental health than anyone else.
Worse mental health?
Or more likely to seek treatment?

Those aren't the same thing, if anything they're opposed.

Don't get me wrong. You aren't the only one making poor arguments based on statistics, failing to distinguish between correlation and causation. It's the norm in conversations like this one.
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But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives.
Wut?

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Poorly sourced, and I don't see what the connection is supposed to be.
You remarked that conservatives were more likely to see themselves as victims. Yet, liberals, especially liberal women, have worse mental health than anyone else.
Your non-sequitur is based on the conflation of seeing oneself as a victim as a mental health condition and the implicit assumption that conservatives and liberal seek medical help at the same rates.
 
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But it may also show that liberals are less likely to consider themselves victims than conservatives.
Wut?

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You do know that children with ADHD in the 70s and 80s were just children "causing trouble", not children with ADHD. You don't even know what you are talking about, but are very forceful is telling the world just how things you don't understand actually are.
Had the gender cult existed a generation ago, he'd have been mutilated.


I can't imagine how clueless someone has to be to think THIS is the misunderstanding. Monty Python, crossing dressing but straight. Kids in the Hall, cross dressing some straight some gay. Eddie Izzard cross dressing lesbian in a man's body. The alt-right is just so dreadfully ignorant (at best) on transgender.

You're completely missing the point.

The point? Your point was to expose that you think that people (liberals) are conflating putting on a dress once meaning they are transgender. They aren't. That ignorance is your problem to deal with.
 
Your non-sequitur is based on the conflation of seeing oneself as a victim as a mental health condition
Strong-minded people don't see themselves as victims. That's just life.
It appears you are using a tautology to promote yet another non-sequitur. Because if one is truly a victim, then a strong-minded person would see that. In someone is a victim and denies it, then I think most people would consider that person either in denial or delusional - neither attributes of strong-mindedness.

Hence your response is simply another example of poor reasoning.
 
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