Jayjay
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So just to be clear, you admit that Russian MoD is lying when it says it was the UK instead of the Americans and Norway like Hersh is claiming?First of all, it was not a drone, it was a truck bomb. Second of all, this "Ukraine did it" is a lame and pathetic attempt to react to Hersh investigation.Ukraine has this capability? It is one thing to fly a drone into a bridge pier. It is another to attack a submerged utility line.
US government is engaged in industrial terrorism. Not to mention ordinary one.
Hersh's "investigation", i.e. one anonymous source, has been debunked already. He made numerous factual errors that could have been avoided if the old crank had made even the simplest attempt at fact checking. For example, he or his source claimed that Jens Stoltenberg has been working with the CIA since the Vietnam war... when he was 16. Or that planes that were not even in active use yet were used in the operation. And a bunch of other things, you know how to use google.
I've heard though that Hersh has allegedly responded to some of these criticisms, so I should check that out. But Hersh doesn't have much of a track record in recent years and the man doesn't have very much credibility anymore.
The US had little reason to blow up the pipes because there was no gas flowing anyway, and risk of getting caught is pretty high because Americans can't keep anything secret. I find the idea that it could've been Ukraine (though I'm skeptical that it was just some independent actor) at least plausible, even if Russia still had both the motive and the means. Unlike you, I follow the evidence, and change my mind if something new shows up.
You do realize that if Russia is doing fine without the pipes, it just gives more credence to the claim that it was Russia who blew them up?You hit Europeans, Russia can sell gas to China just fine.I think that it is awesome we hit the Russians hard
Not to mention, use it in Russia.