Israel targeting "reporters"??

[Loren Pechtel]

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...r-operatives-or-members-of-Hamas-media-390871


Oops--half of them have been definitely linked to the terrorists.

Note that this doesn't mean the other half had no links, their status is unknown.

 

[laughing dog]

It also doesn't mean
1) that the other half do have "terrorist links",
2) that these people were not journalists,
3) that "terrorist link" means that these people are terrorists.

In other words, another example of smearing victims via rhetorical innuendo and conjecture.

 

[Warpoet]

It also doesn't mean
1) that the other half do have "terrorist links",
2) that these people were not journalists,
3) that "terrorist link" means that these people are terrorists.

In other words, another example of smearing victims via rhetorical innuendo and conjecture.

It means nothing and nothing on top of nothing. Loren's source, as usual, is garbage.

The Tel Aviv-based Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center said it conducted an in-depth study of the list of names, which was published by the Hamas-run Gaza Information Office in Gaza a week after hostilities ended in August 2014. The list also was circulated by the Palestinian Journalists’ Union, which, according to the center, is controlled by Hamas in Gaza.

Here's what a few seconds of Googling turned up:

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC), also known as Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in honor of Meir Amit, is an Israeli-based research group with close ties to the Israel Defense Forces and the American Jewish Congress.[1] The organisation is part of the Israel Intelligence Heritage and Commemoration Center (IICC).

Yeah, I'm really going to trust a bunch of IDF propagandists to make an even-handed assessment of something like this.

In other news, the Family Research Council has produced a study definitely linking 50% of all homosexual teachers to pedophiles!!!! MUST READ!

Who do you think you're kidding with this shit, Loren?

 

[Frikki]

I'm starting to think that Loren was planted here by Hamas.

 

[untermensche]

This is a joke.

Those are the names of people Israel killed.

Killed so Israel can maintain a sadistic oppression of millions and steal land.

 

[arkirk]

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...r-operatives-or-members-of-Hamas-media-390871


Oops--half of them have been definitely linked to the terrorists.

Note that this doesn't mean the other half had no links, their status is unknown.

Their status is only unknown to you. It simply is not reported to you. Don't be a Netanyahu dupe.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It also doesn't mean
1) that the other half do have "terrorist links",
2) that these people were not journalists,
3) that "terrorist link" means that these people are terrorists.

In other words, another example of smearing victims via rhetorical innuendo and conjecture.

A Hamas member is going to report what Hamas wants even if he's acting as a journalist.

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It also doesn't mean
1) that the other half do have "terrorist links",
2) that these people were not journalists,
3) that "terrorist link" means that these people are terrorists.

In other words, another example of smearing victims via rhetorical innuendo and conjecture.

It means nothing and nothing on top of nothing. Loren's source, as usual, is garbage.

The Tel Aviv-based Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center said it conducted an in-depth study of the list of names, which was published by the Hamas-run Gaza Information Office in Gaza a week after hostilities ended in August 2014. The list also was circulated by the Palestinian Journalists’ Union, which, according to the center, is controlled by Hamas in Gaza.

Here's what a few seconds of Googling turned up:

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC), also known as Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in honor of Meir Amit, is an Israeli-based research group with close ties to the Israel Defense Forces and the American Jewish Congress.[1] The organisation is part of the Israel Intelligence Heritage and Commemoration Center (IICC).

Yeah, I'm really going to trust a bunch of IDF propagandists to make an even-handed assessment of something like this.

In other news, the Family Research Council has produced a study definitely linking 50% of all homosexual teachers to pedophiles!!!! MUST READ!

Who do you think you're kidding with this shit, Loren?

Nobody but the Israelis do the sort of studying needed to find these problems. Thus such sources are going to be Israeli.

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http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...r-operatives-or-members-of-Hamas-media-390871


Oops--half of them have been definitely linked to the terrorists.

Note that this doesn't mean the other half had no links, their status is unknown.

Their status is only unknown to you. It simply is not reported to you. Don't be a Netanyahu dupe.

You're not even paying attention to the article.

 

[arkirk]

A Hamas member is going to report what Hamas wants even if he's acting as a journalist.

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It also doesn't mean
1) that the other half do have "terrorist links",
2) that these people were not journalists,
3) that "terrorist link" means that these people are terrorists.

In other words, another example of smearing victims via rhetorical innuendo and conjecture.

It means nothing and nothing on top of nothing. Loren's source, as usual, is garbage.

The Tel Aviv-based Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center said it conducted an in-depth study of the list of names, which was published by the Hamas-run Gaza Information Office in Gaza a week after hostilities ended in August 2014. The list also was circulated by the Palestinian Journalists’ Union, which, according to the center, is controlled by Hamas in Gaza.

Here's what a few seconds of Googling turned up:

The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC), also known as Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center in honor of Meir Amit, is an Israeli-based research group with close ties to the Israel Defense Forces and the American Jewish Congress.[1] The organisation is part of the Israel Intelligence Heritage and Commemoration Center (IICC).

Yeah, I'm really going to trust a bunch of IDF propagandists to make an even-handed assessment of something like this.

In other news, the Family Research Council has produced a study definitely linking 50% of all homosexual teachers to pedophiles!!!! MUST READ!

Who do you think you're kidding with this shit, Loren?

Nobody but the Israelis do the sort of studying needed to find these problems. Thus such sources are going to be Israeli.

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http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...r-operatives-or-members-of-Hamas-media-390871


Oops--half of them have been definitely linked to the terrorists.

Note that this doesn't mean the other half had no links, their status is unknown.

Their status is only unknown to you. It simply is not reported to you. Don't be a Netanyahu dupe.

You're not even paying attention to the article.

I visited the site and have to call it a propaganda site.

I know journalists who do not buy the Israeli coolaid really are not welcome in Israel regardless of where they come from. They are jailed and deported regularly...and mostly not allowed in. Past and present Israeli actions are aggression, ethnic cleansing and in the last attack on Gaza, war crimes...and that more than once. I feel people who accept Israel's policies toward Arabs actually endanger Israel more than their enemies. They lay the groundwork for all manner of complications. When these complication arise, then Israel's leadership says...."See...I told you they were violent savages." It is all bullshit...dangerous bullshit at that.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...r-operatives-or-members-of-Hamas-media-390871


Oops--half of them have been definitely linked to the terrorists.

Note that this doesn't mean the other half had no links, their status is unknown.

Your compulsive shilling for Israel is getting more and more aggressive lately. I was just about to ask the (rhetorical) question as to why that might be, but then it occurred to me that the Netanyahu/Congress Affair has put U.S./Israel relations at an all-time low and the shills are working double time trying to sell Zion's image.

Including, now, this sad stunt to justify Israel's use of military force to silence opposition journalism. I suppose you want us to pat you on the back for quoting this third-hand J-post article (picking up a report from a Tel-Aviv-based Zionist thinktank), and yet you seem blissfully unaware of what almost everyone else is taking away from your OP:

Less than half of the journalists killed by Israel had anything to do with Hamas at all.

Is that supposed to excuse the deaths of the unaffiliated journalists? Or is "being too close to Hamas when My Beloved Israel bombs them" a crime worthy of execution too?

 

[Warpoet]

Nobody but the Israelis do the sort of studying needed to find these problems. Thus such sources are going to be Israeli.

That's because only the IDF, or apologists for the IDF, have an interest in smearing the names of dead journalists in order to excuse IDF crimes.

So yes, obviously the only sources that will make up shit like this will be propaganda outlets for the IDF, like yours is. And that's why not one person here should bother taking any of it seriously.

When you have a real source, let us know.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I know journalists who do not buy the Israeli coolaid really are not welcome in Israel regardless of where they come from. They are jailed and deported regularly...and mostly not allowed in. Past and present Israeli actions are aggression, ethnic cleansing and in the last attack on Gaza, war crimes...and that more than once. I feel people who accept Israel's policies toward Arabs actually endanger Israel more than their enemies. They lay the groundwork for all manner of complications. When these complication arise, then Israel's leadership says...."See...I told you they were violent savages." It is all bullshit...dangerous bullshit at that.

The ones that get jailed are the ones that are using journalism as a cover for terrorism.

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Nobody but the Israelis do the sort of studying needed to find these problems. Thus such sources are going to be Israeli.

That's because only the IDF, or apologists for the IDF, have an interest in smearing the names of dead journalists in order to excuse IDF crimes.

So yes, obviously the only sources that will make up shit like this will be propaganda outlets for the IDF, like yours is. And that's why not one person here should bother taking any of it seriously.

When you have a real source, let us know.

No. Israel is the only one interested in uncovering the truth.

Rebutting the research would be easy enough if they are lying--yet the Israeli data never gets rebutted.

 

[Warpoet]

No. Israel is the only one interested in uncovering the truth.

Rebutting the research would be easy enough if they are lying--yet the Israeli data never gets rebutted.

Smear and fabrication are not "data." Nobody needs to waste their time sifting through the lies tossed out by propaganda sources - like yours - to see if there's a grain of truth hidden somewhere. If there is, you shouldn't need to go running to a laughably biased source to find it.

When you have a real source, let us know.

 

[TSwizzle]

The fact that it was Hamas that said they were journalists means they probably weren't journalists at all. But for some, Hamas propaganda is easier to believe.

 

[Warpoet]

The fact that it was Hamas that said they were journalists means they probably weren't journalists at all. But for some, Hamas propaganda is easier to believe.

What are you blathering on about? Loren is the one who brought this up in the first place, apparently thinking no one would bother to check his source.

And plenty of independent NGOs/IGOs have condemned Israeli killing of journalists, among countless other crimes. But you and Loren don't want to talk about that, do you?

 

[Underseer]

The fact that it was Hamas that said they were journalists means they probably weren't journalists at all. But for some, Hamas propaganda is easier to believe.

What are you blathering on about? Loren is the one who brought this up in the first place, apparently thinking no one would bother to check his source.

And plenty of independent NGOs/IGOs have condemned Israeli killing of journalists, among countless other crimes. But you and Loren don't want to talk about that, do you?

But it's good when Israel does things like that. It's only bad when Palestinians do things like that. If you weren't a moral relativist, you would understand that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

No. Israel is the only one interested in uncovering the truth.

Rebutting the research would be easy enough if they are lying--yet the Israeli data never gets rebutted.

Smear and fabrication are not "data." Nobody needs to waste their time sifting through the lies tossed out by propaganda sources - like yours - to see if there's a grain of truth hidden somewhere. If there is, you shouldn't need to go running to a laughably biased source to find it.

When you have a real source, let us know.

They wouldn't need to rebut it all. Just rebutting some would be enough to damage their credibility.

Such rebuttals never happen because the data is good.

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The fact that it was Hamas that said they were journalists means they probably weren't journalists at all. But for some, Hamas propaganda is easier to believe.

What are you blathering on about? Loren is the one who brought this up in the first place, apparently thinking no one would bother to check his source.

And plenty of independent NGOs/IGOs have condemned Israeli killing of journalists, among countless other crimes. But you and Loren don't want to talk about that, do you?

I perfectly well know that you dismiss anything from a Jewish source. That's the only way you can continue to live in your delusions of what's really going on over there.


The facts remain that over time the consensus of what has happened tends to shift towards the position that Israel originally took. Meanwhile plenty of people were duped and still think the fanciful tales spun by the terrorists are the truth.

 

[PyramidHead]

Who keeps giving these shit threads 5 stars?

 

[laughing dog]

A Hamas member is going to report what Hamas wants even if he's acting as a journalist.

Are you under the impression that a non-sequitur helps substantiate your illogical claims?

 

[Warpoet]

They wouldn't need to rebut it all. Just rebutting some would be enough to damage their credibility.

Nobody needs to do that. The obvious bias of the source removes any credibility it might have conceivably had, and you have no business expecting people to take time out of their day trying to fact check every bullshit, wingnut source you grab out of the Zionist blogosphere. So if you want your claim to be taken seriously, get it from a source that doesn't have such an obvious bias. If you can't do that, the claim gets tossed in the trash, where most of them end up (and belong). Got it yet?

I perfectly well know that you dismiss anything from a Jewish source. That's the only way you can continue to live in your delusions of what's really going on over there.

You can take the anti-Semite card and blow it out your ass. I don't dismiss your source because they're Jews, I dismiss them because they're Jews with clear ties to the fucking IDF. Intelligent people can recognize the distinction, and see that this thread, others like it, and your failed attempts at propping them up, are a complete, utter waste of bandwidth, and everyone's time.

 

[laughing dog]

You can take the anti-Semite card and blow it out your ass. I don't dismiss your source because they're Jews, I dismiss them because they're Jews with clear ties to the fucking IDF. Intelligent people can recognize the distinction, and see that this thread, and your failed attempts at propping it up, are a complete, utter waste of bandwidth, and everyone's time.

The irony of LP's claim is only lost on him.