Family of Mexican national files claim, accuse police of murder 'execution style'

[laughing dog]

It doesn't sit with me that they had to shoot him to death for throwing rocks. Three cops can't take a man down who's throwing rocks? Were they afraid of the guy? I'm 61, not a trained cop, and I could have taken this guy down by myself. I think this is another unsurprising case of piss poor training. They couldn't get close enough to shoot him without killing him?

You realize cops have no armor? Thrown rocks can kill.

(Note: Their vests offer virtually no protection against rocks.)

You need to the use the smiley or something. Otherwise people will read this as a serious response.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It doesn't sit with me that they had to shoot him to death for throwing rocks. Three cops can't take a man down who's throwing rocks? Were they afraid of the guy? I'm 61, not a trained cop, and I could have taken this guy down by myself. I think this is another unsurprising case of piss poor training. They couldn't get close enough to shoot him without killing him?

You realize cops have no armor? Thrown rocks can kill.

(Note: Their vests offer virtually no protection against rocks.)

Jesus fucking christ on a stick man!

Besides, the guy had an open carry permit for the rock.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

You realize cops have no armor? Thrown rocks can kill.

(Note: Their vests offer virtually no protection against rocks.)

Jesus fucking christ on a stick man!

Besides, the guy had an open carry permit for the rock.

The cops probably didn't know the tactic of sneaking up behind the rock throwing man while he is busy throwing rocks at the other officers. It was a tactic we learned in the Great Apple War of 1982.

 

[credoconsolans]

You realize cops have no armor? Thrown rocks can kill.

(Note: Their vests offer virtually no protection against rocks.)

You need to the use the smiley or something. Otherwise people will read this as a serious response.

Yup. Stoning people to death. Sound familiar?

 

[bilby]

You need to the use the smiley or something. Otherwise people will read this as a serious response.

Yup. Stoning people to death. Sound familiar?

When stoning people to death, it is usually considered important to secure them in-place first, as failure to do so may result in their running away, or at the very least, dodging the incoming stones.

I'm afraid that I shall have to take you off my list of potential supervisors for judicial stonings when I become world dictator.

 

[J842P]

The state isn't the Plaintiff. This isn't a criminal case.

Correct. The state will investigate the murder and pursue justice.

The lawsuit is a civil case filed by foreigners and has no jurisdiction here.

Ah. My mistake, I was being lazy. In any case, I'm still interested in finding out if what you initially stated was correct: are US citizens are protected from lawsuits filed by citizens of other countries? I had never heard of that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You realize cops have no armor?

Off topic, but most beat cops do wear concealable body armor.

Cops' armor is designed to spread the impact of a bullet so as to avoid penetration. Most of the energy comes through, though.

Since a rock isn't going to penetrate much in the first place the armor won't do much.

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Yup. Stoning people to death. Sound familiar?

When stoning people to death, it is usually considered important to secure them in-place first, as failure to do so may result in their running away, or at the very least, dodging the incoming stones.

I'm afraid that I shall have to take you off my list of potential supervisors for judicial stonings when I become world dictator.

But a strike to the head can kill whether the target is restrained or not. It's just much easier to get that hit if the target can't do anything about it.

 

[laughing dog]

But a strike to the head can kill whether the target is restrained or not. It's just much easier to get that hit if the target can't do anything about it.

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

 

[bilby]

But a strike to the head can kill whether the target is restrained or not. It's just much easier to get that hit if the target can't do anything about it.

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

They are police. If they need a justification for shooting someone, then the laws of physics are of no more concern to Loren than anything else. If the cops shot a cute little puppy, Loren would be here pointing out that it might have grown up into a big vicious dog and attacked them, so it was justified self-defence.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I suppose we need to start arming officers with rocks now.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Off topic, but most beat cops do wear concealable body armor.

Cops' armor is designed to spread the impact of a bullet so as to avoid penetration. Most of the energy comes through, though.

Since a rock isn't going to penetrate much in the first place the armor won't do much.

How big of rocks are you talking about and how fast can they travel? I'm not sure, the NRA will probably correct me, but I think the hole created by bullets kill more easily than the impact.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Cops' armor is designed to spread the impact of a bullet so as to avoid penetration. Most of the energy comes through, though.

Since a rock isn't going to penetrate much in the first place the armor won't do much.

How big of rocks are you talking about and how fast can they travel? I'm not sure, the NRA will probably correct me, but I think the hole created by bullets kill more easily than the impact.

Which mean blunt force trauma in the case of the rock, which is being hurled at velocities well over 60 ft/s. If the rock weighs 400 pounds, it'd likely crush the officers rib cage and killed him.

 

[bilby]

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a rock, is a good guy with a rock.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

But a strike to the head can kill whether the target is restrained or not. It's just much easier to get that hit if the target can't do anything about it.

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

And so a pass in football is impossible because the receiver is in motion.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a rock, is a good guy with a rock.

I know, it isn't like you can shoot a rock. Maybe the Police should walk around with slabs of rock to protect them. A granite vest.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Cops' armor is designed to spread the impact of a bullet so as to avoid penetration. Most of the energy comes through, though.

Since a rock isn't going to penetrate much in the first place the armor won't do much.

How big of rocks are you talking about and how fast can they travel? I'm not sure, the NRA will probably correct me, but I think the hole created by bullets kill more easily than the impact.

More easily, yes. That doesn't mean a rock isn't potentially lethal.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

And so a pass in football is impossible because the receiver is in motion.

Interesting argument. It takes time for the football to get from the QB to the WR. A couple to a few seconds. So... the cops not trained to move out of the way of a deadly rock that takes time to reach them?

How big of rocks are you talking about and how fast can they travel? I'm not sure, the NRA will probably correct me, but I think the hole created by bullets kill more easily than the impact.

More easily, yes. That doesn't mean a rock isn't potentially lethal.

Your argument is potentially lethal as laughing dog could potentially piss himself so badly from laughter that a stream could reach the surge protector and electrocute himself. Should we send the cops to your place of posting to kill you just to be safe? Because that seems to be your argument... get a rock thrown at you... kill the fucker.

 

[ksen]

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

And so a pass in football is impossible because the receiver is in motion.

Of course, the receive is trying to get to the ball whereas, presumably, the officers would not be trying to get to the rocks.

It's amazing that they were able to subdue this guy when he had a hand directly on one of their pistols. But when he's just throwing rocks they all of a sudden can't manage.

The officers should probably be shot for being incompetent.

 

[laughing dog]

Let me get this straight. The police were too far away to approach this guy, and you think they would stay still to get hit by a rock?

And so a pass in football is impossible because the receiver is in motion.

Receivers deliberately move towards the football. Are you suggesting that the police would move towards the thrown rock?

 

[laughing dog]

The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a rock, is a good guy with a rock.

Or someone armed with LP's defense in this thread. It is almost as lethally funny as the killer joke in the Monty Python skit.