How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Harry Bosch]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

All of them?

I agree with Trump that we need to increase the tariffs on Russia.

LOL, you can't put tariffs anymore. there is noting left to put tariffs on

And anyone that trades with Russia.

Well, good luck with pissing off your "allies" even more.

We have to figure out a way to bring Putin to the negotiating table.

What table? Putin has already said he is at the table, waiting for Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, whoever.
He has been waiting for 20 years.
Problem is, you thought you did not need negotiating.

Negative. President Z has accepted trading land for long term peace (peacekeepers to endure no more Russian invasion). Putin has said that he will only accept total Ukraine surrender.

 

[barbos]

Trump is an asshole and a moron.

What part of Trump's statement above didn't you like?

All of them?

I agree with Trump that we need to increase the tariffs on Russia.

LOL, you can't put tariffs anymore. there is noting left to put tariffs on

And anyone that trades with Russia.

Well, good luck with pissing off your "allies" even more.

We have to figure out a way to bring Putin to the negotiating table.

What table? Putin has already said he is at the table, waiting for Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, whoever.
He has been waiting for 20 years.
Problem is, you thought you did not need negotiating.

Negative. President Z has accepted trading land for long term peace (peacekeepers to endure no more Russian invasion). Putin has said that he will only accept total Ukraine surrender.

We did not make such an offer for him to accept. he made such not even offer, just an idea, which is obviously unacceptable to Russia. The Green Goblin is essentially planing WW3 with that "idea".
I prefer unconditional surrender and public execution of the leaders of the Third .... Kiev Regime.
But Putin seems to be way softer than me,

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Negative. President Z has accepted trading land for long term peace (peacekeepers to endure no more Russian invasion). Putin has said that he will only accept total Ukraine surrender.

We did not make such an offer for him to accept. he made such not even offer, just an idea, which is obviously unacceptable to Russia.

We?

The Green Goblin is essentially planing WW3 with that "idea".

This sounds like German propaganda during WWII.

I prefer unconditional surrender and public execution of the leaders of the Third .... Kiev Regime.
But Putin seems to be way softer than me,

Anyone remember when barbos was certain the Ukrainian people would welcome Russia? Now he is calling for the death of people for crimes imagined up in Russian fan fiction.

 

[barbos]

This sounds like German propaganda during WWII.

You and you ukro-nazis think russians are stupid again?

Anyone remember when barbos was certain the Ukrainian people would welcome Russia?

You are confusing Kiev Regime with people in Ukraine. Having said that, I don't care how many Ukrainians don't like Russia.
Germans did not like Russians either.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

This sounds like German propaganda during WWII.

You and you ukro-nazis think russians are stupid again?

Putin isn't stupid. Putin miscalculated. And Russia has failed to overtake Ukraine for nearly three years. You have been wrong repeatedly about this invasion.

Anyone remember when barbos was certain the Ukrainian people would welcome Russia?

You are confusing Kiev Regime with people in Ukraine. Having said that, I don't care how many Ukrainians don't like Russia.

Well, they certainly don't like them now!

Germans did not like Russians either.

A logic fail there. Just because Nazi Germany invaded the USSR doesn't mean anyone Russia fights must be like the Nazis. You attempt to dehumanize Ukrainian leadership and their people, boasting of them suffering in the cold when Russia targeted public infrastructure. It is a very ugly tell about your moral compass.

 

[barbos]

Putin isn't stupid. Putin miscalculated.

Does not look like he is the one who miscalculated now.

Well, they certainly don't like them now!

And yet, refugees prefer to return to Russia controlled parts.

A logic fail there. Just because Nazi Germany invaded the USSR doesn't mean anyone Russia fights must be like the Nazis.

No need for logic, they are nazis, that's just simple fact.

 

[barbos]

You attempt to dehumanize Ukrainian leadership and their people, boasting of them suffering in the cold when Russia targeted public infrastructure. It is a very ugly tell about your moral compass.

Remind me what you (US/NATO) did in Yugoslavia.
Russia did not start with bombing infrastructure, Regime in Kiev started attacking infrastructure, nuclear one at that.
And don't forget senile motherfucker aka JaBiden blowing up NordStream.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Putin isn't stupid. Putin miscalculated.

Does not look like he is the one who miscalculated now.

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, they certainly don't like them now!

And yet, refugees prefer to return to Russia controlled parts.

A logic fail there. Just because Nazi Germany invaded the USSR doesn't mean anyone Russia fights must be like the Nazis.

No need for logic, they are nazis, that's just simple fact.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You attempt to dehumanize Ukrainian leadership and their people, boasting of them suffering in the cold when Russia targeted public infrastructure. It is a very ugly tell about your moral compass.

Remind me what you (US/NATO) did in Yugoslavia.
Russia did not start with bombing infrastructure, Regime in Kiev started attacking infrastructure, nuclear one at that.
And don't forget senile motherfucker aka JaBiden blowing up NordStream.

It must be frustrating to live in a reality that is parallel to the real one.

 

[Harry Bosch]

Putin isn't stupid. Putin miscalculated.

Does not look like he is the one who miscalculated now.

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, they certainly don't like them now!

And yet, refugees prefer to return to Russia controlled parts.

A logic fail there. Just because Nazi Germany invaded the USSR doesn't mean anyone Russia fights must be like the Nazis.

No need for logic, they are nazis, that's just simple fact.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

The Russians use this excuse to justify not only the killing of Ukrainians, but also the stealing of their land; looting their art and possessions; raping prisoners, kidnapping of more than 10,000 children, bombing civilian infrastructure and etc.

 

[TomC]

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Putin and barbos remind me so strongly of Bush II and his supporters who kept insisting that our invasion of Iraq was supported by the Iraqis.
And the invasion would end with the victory of the Good, very soon!
Tom

 

[barbos]

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, Budanov himself said that Ukraine has 6 months.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

They are nazis, and they themselves call themselves that.
Having said that, average stereotypical "ukrainians" do have certain unfavorable reputation.
Don't trust russians? ask poles about it.

 

[barbos]

Putin and barbos remind me so strongly of Bush II and his supporters who kept insisting that our invasion of Iraq was supported by the Iraqis.

If Putin was american or even Bush/Trump, Ukraine would have been wiped from the map long time ago.
Putin continues long standing tradition of the russian rullers being very easy on neighbors and very hard on its own population.

 

[ZiprHead]

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, Budanov himself said that Ukraine has 6 months.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

They are nazis, and they themselves call themselves that.
Having said that, average stereotypical "ukrainians" do have certain unfavorable reputation.

As if Russia has no Nazis.

 Wagner Group

 

[ZiprHead]

Putin and barbos remind me so strongly of Bush II and his supporters who kept insisting that our invasion of Iraq was supported by the Iraqis.

If Putin was american or even Bush/Trump, Ukraine would have been wiped from the map long time ago.

Awww, poor Barbos. He's gotten down to the point he has to make up fantasies to make an argument.

 

[barbos]

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, Budanov himself said that Ukraine has 6 months.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

They are nazis, and they themselves call themselves that.
Having said that, average stereotypical "ukrainians" do have certain unfavorable reputation.

As if Russia has no Nazis.

We have been over this, they are not running anythng let alone the country

 Wagner Group

They were not nazis and they do not exist anymore.

 

[barbos]

Putin and barbos remind me so strongly of Bush II and his supporters who kept insisting that our invasion of Iraq was supported by the Iraqis.

If Putin was american or even Bush/Trump, Ukraine would have been wiped from the map long time ago.

Awww, poor Barbos. He's gotten down to the point he has to make up fantasies to make an argument.

No, that's just a fact, What you did to native americans? mexicans?

 

[ZiprHead]

Of course, Russia is always on the verge of total victory... been that way for years now.

Well, Budanov himself said that Ukraine has 6 months.

I understand calling them that makes it easier for you to morally justify the wanton murder of Slavs.

They are nazis, and they themselves call themselves that.
Having said that, average stereotypical "ukrainians" do have certain unfavorable reputation.

As if Russia has no Nazis.

We have been over this, they are not running anythng let alone the country

 Wagner Group

They were not nazis and they do not exist anymore.

They did exist until they didn't. They were AOK in Putin's book as long as they followed his Naziesque orders.

 

[barbos]

They did exist until they didn't. They were AOK in Putin's book as long as they followed his Naziesque orders.

They were not nazis and they don't exist.
All nazi-themed movements from the 90s as marginal as they were, were slowly squashed in the early 2000s.
In Ukraine, they are in power, and being slowly exterminated by the russian army.

 

[barbos]