How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[crazyfingers]

OK, this is just stupid shit. While I agree with Wilson that Putin is a war criminal and needs to give up his war against Ukraine, I'd hardly describe Putin as "Woke". That's just STUPID diarrhea mouth.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) echoed the Texas senator’s comments, saying: “President Trump graciously offered Putin a way out of this insanity. Problem is Putin does not want peace, he wants Ukraine.”

The South Carolinian also slammed Putin, writing that “woke war criminal Putin doesn’t get to play the victim. He invaded a sovereign country of 40 million, his forces delighting in utter sadism. He cares nothing for the people of Russia, sending child soldiers and amputees to die for HIM.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/13/russia-ukraine-ceasefire-reaction-00003024

 

[barbos]

OK, this is just stupid shit. While I agree with Wilson that Putin is a war criminal and needs to give up his war against Ukraine, I'd hardly describe Putin as "Woke". That's just STUPID diarrhea mouth.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) echoed the Texas senator’s comments, saying: “President Trump graciously offered Putin a way out of this insanity. Problem is Putin does not want peace, he wants Ukraine.”

The South Carolinian also slammed Putin, writing that “woke war criminal Putin doesn’t get to play the victim. He invaded a sovereign country of 40 million, his forces delighting in utter sadism. He cares nothing for the people of Russia, sending child soldiers and amputees to die for HIM.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/13/russia-ukraine-ceasefire-reaction-00003024

LOL, where was Joe Wilson when US invaded Iraq, Vietnam, Cuba, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Panama, Grenada, China, Russia, Ukraine?

 

[barbos]

Reuters reports that Russia sent their conditions for ceasefire and these conditions are the same as before.
So there will be no ceasefire, good.

Yea, no surprise there! This has all been about educating MAGA that Russia does not want peace. For some reason, Trump likes Utin. This has been about restoring the flow of arms to Ukraine and finding more ways to increase economic sanctions against Russia.

ceasefire != peace. Suggested ceasefire is nothing but a rest and regrouping for nazi forces.

 

[TV and credit cards]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation. They will stop training/recruiting additional personnel to fight. They will cede the western 20% of Russia to Ukraine as compensation for the devastation inflicted upon Ukraine. Return all children kidnapped from Ukraine. Permit Ukrainian culture within Russian society. Further they will not reconstitute their military forces so as to never be a scourge upon the world again.

In other news, Putin said he might call Trump to discuss the issue. Bet I know what he's going to say to Trump: "Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?"

 

[barbos]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation.

Technically we we have never received any support from anybody. We may have bought some inconsequential shit from them in the past. Bit we paid for it. In case if Nazi Regime in Kiev it is 100% dependent on interrupted support from the West on everything including salaries to government workers, not to mention weapons.
Trump must be deranged to think that resuming weapon shipments to Regime in Kiev during this proposed ceasefire can get any reaction different from laugh.

 

[Ovazor]

OK, this is just stupid shit. While I agree with Wilson that Putin is a war criminal and needs to give up his war against Ukraine, I'd hardly describe Putin as "Woke". That's just STUPID diarrhea mouth.

This just shows that the word "woke" has become a meaningless term for anything the person uttering does not agree with. Ironically, I have seen internet Putinists claiming that the supporting Ukraine is woke and must therefore cease.

 

[TV and credit cards]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation.

Technically we we have never received any support from anybody. We may have bought some inconsequential shit from them in the past. Bit we paid for it. In case if Nazi Regime in Kiev it is 100% dependent on interrupted support from the West on everything including salaries to government workers, not to mention weapons.
Trump must be deranged to think that resuming weapon shipments to Regime in Kiev during this proposed ceasefire can get any reaction different from laugh.

And those were North Korean tourists the Ukrainians were shooting at in Kursk.

 

[barbos]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation.

Technically we we have never received any support from anybody. We may have bought some inconsequential shit from them in the past. Bit we paid for it. In case if Nazi Regime in Kiev it is 100% dependent on uninterrupted support from the West on everything including salaries to government workers, not to mention weapons.
Trump must be deranged to think that resuming weapon shipments to Regime in Kiev during this proposed ceasefire can get any reaction different from laugh.

And those were North Korean tourists the Ukrainians were shooting at in Kursk.

There were no north korean "tourists" of any kind in Kursk.
Next question please.

 

[ZiprHead]

Magat get eviscerated on live British TV host.

 

[ZiprHead]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation.

Technically we we have never received any support from anybody. We may have bought some inconsequential shit from them in the past. Bit we paid for it. In case if Nazi Regime in Kiev it is 100% dependent on uninterrupted support from the West on everything including salaries to government workers, not to mention weapons.
Trump must be deranged to think that resuming weapon shipments to Regime in Kiev during this proposed ceasefire can get any reaction different from laugh.

And those were North Korean tourists the Ukrainians were shooting at in Kursk.

There were no north korean "tourists" of any kind in Kursk.
Next question please.

North Korean ‘suicidal attacks’ softened up Ukrainian troops for Putin’s Kursk push

As US negotiators arrive in Moscow for ceasefire talks, World affairs editor Sam Kiley looks at how Vladimir Putin’s forces fought back in Kursk

www.independent.co.uk

 

[barbos]

So Putin states to honor the ceasefire Russia will no longer accept military support from China, Iran, or any other nation.

Technically we we have never received any support from anybody. We may have bought some inconsequential shit from them in the past. Bit we paid for it. In case if Nazi Regime in Kiev it is 100% dependent on uninterrupted support from the West on everything including salaries to government workers, not to mention weapons.
Trump must be deranged to think that resuming weapon shipments to Regime in Kiev during this proposed ceasefire can get any reaction different from laugh.

And those were North Korean tourists the Ukrainians were shooting at in Kursk.

There were no north korean "tourists" of any kind in Kursk.
Next question please.

North Korean ‘suicidal attacks’ softened up Ukrainian troops for Putin’s Kursk push

As US negotiators arrive in Moscow for ceasefire talks, World affairs editor Sam Kiley looks at how Vladimir Putin’s forces fought back in Kursk

www.independent.co.uk

lies

 

[barbos]

Meanwhile. The Organizer of May 2 Odessa massacre was executed in day light in Odessa.
This happened on the day when European Court rolled Kiev regime responsible for the massacre and ordered them to pay compensations to survivors and relatives.This is most likely a coincidence because Ganula (the name of the nazi piece shit) was a genuine piece of shit criminal involved in all kinds of scams, racket and had a lot of enemies and people who hated him.

 

[DrZoidberg]

I know what it is like to work under liog term pressure and stress, but nothing like what Putin is experiencing.

Over time it is debilitating, long term stress hormones affect the brain and reasoning.

My guess is Putin is probably a toxic environment to be around. There is a chance he could break down and get c9mpetly irrational. He gambled on Ukraine and lost. He built up the propaganda and he can not back down.

There is The Peter Principle. Somebody rises past their level of commence and they are stuck there with no way out.

Putin;'s only qualification was being relied on to not prosecute Yeltsin and the oligarchs for corruption, and for protecting their money.

Peter principle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[1][2]

The concept was explained in the 1969 book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company) by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull.[3] Hull wrote the text, which was based on Peter's research. Peter and Hull intended the book to be satire,[4] but it became popular as it was seen to make a serious point about the shortcomings of how people are promoted within hierarchical organizations. The Peter principle has since been the subject of much commentary and research.

Putin hasn't lost. Its gone worse than he thought. But Putin is still in a strong position in Russia, and going nowhere in Ukraine. There's no reason to think Russia can't hold onto what they've so far taken

Any CEO or senior corporate manager is under the same stress and pressure as Putin.

Some people just thrive under pressure. The kind of people who don't, can't understand it. People are different.

Ronald Reagan famously said that he couldn't focus at all unless there was great pressure.

 

[barbos]

While there is less than zero evidence of presence of north korean soldiers anywhere in Russia, there is plenty of evidence
of Russia increasing average western IQ:

Brit, 18, killed in Russian drone hunt in 1st mission on Ukraine frontline

BRITISH teen volunteer James Wilton “did not stand a chance” when he was killed by a Russian drone while fighting in Ukraine, his best pal said. The 18-year-old recruit died after being chased by t…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[SLD]

I know what it is like to work under liog term pressure and stress, but nothing like what Putin is experiencing.

Over time it is debilitating, long term stress hormones affect the brain and reasoning.

My guess is Putin is probably a toxic environment to be around. There is a chance he could break down and get c9mpetly irrational. He gambled on Ukraine and lost. He built up the propaganda and he can not back down.

There is The Peter Principle. Somebody rises past their level of commence and they are stuck there with no way out.

Putin;'s only qualification was being relied on to not prosecute Yeltsin and the oligarchs for corruption, and for protecting their money.

Peter principle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[1][2]

The concept was explained in the 1969 book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company) by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull.[3] Hull wrote the text, which was based on Peter's research. Peter and Hull intended the book to be satire,[4] but it became popular as it was seen to make a serious point about the shortcomings of how people are promoted within hierarchical organizations. The Peter principle has since been the subject of much commentary and research.

Putin hasn't lost. Its gone worse than he thought. But Putin is still in a strong position in Russia, and going nowhere in Ukraine. There's no reason to think Russia can't hold onto what they've so far taken

Any CEO or senior corporate manager is under the same stress and pressure as Putin.

Some people just thrive under pressure. The kind of people who don't, can't understand it. People are different.

Ronald Reagan famously said that he couldn't focus at all unless there was great pressure.

I’m sure Putin can hold on to the gains he’s made. For now. But the longer the war goes on, the worse it gets for him. Ukraine doesn’t have to have some huge offensive that expels the Russians. It has to bleed them dry. It has to force Putin to use up his assets as much as possible. It has to force him to rely on reserves, and to draft ethnic Russians and force them to engage in human wave attacks that utterly demoralize the Russians. The Russians will likely gain a few more miles along their broad eastern front. But so fucking what? Ukraine needs to husband its men and resources carefully. If the war goes on and on, the Russians will eventually cave. They don’t want this war. Ukraine has no choice but to fight or die. It might take another five years of this shit, but Russians will eventually realize that they can’t win and will revolt. Putin may never give up, but he won’t live forever. This is Putin’s war, and it will definitely die with him.

The only problem is fucking Trump. The only reason that Ukraine got kicked out of Sudzha was the lack of intelligence sharing by the United States. Fucking Trump is fucking up a golden opportunity for the United States. He’s a fucking Russian agent. But even without US aid, Ukraine can still hold them back.

 

[barbos]

The only problem is fucking Trump. The only reason that Ukraine got kicked out of Sudzha was the lack of intelligence sharing by the United States.

What kind of intelligence could have helped ukro-nazis in Sudzha?
They had been fucked there long before Trump decided to pretend to stop sharing intelligence for a couple of days.

 

[barbos]

I know what it is like to work under liog term pressure and stress, but nothing like what Putin is experiencing.

Over time it is debilitating, long term stress hormones affect the brain and reasoning.

My guess is Putin is probably a toxic environment to be around. There is a chance he could break down and get c9mpetly irrational. He gambled on Ukraine and lost. He built up the propaganda and he can not back down.

There is The Peter Principle. Somebody rises past their level of commence and they are stuck there with no way out.

Putin;'s only qualification was being relied on to not prosecute Yeltsin and the oligarchs for corruption, and for protecting their money.

Peter principle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Peter principle is a concept in management developed by Laurence J. Peter which observes that people in a hierarchy tend to rise to "a level of respective incompetence": employees are promoted based on their success in previous jobs until they reach a level at which they are no longer competent, as skills in one job do not necessarily translate to another.[1][2]

The concept was explained in the 1969 book The Peter Principle (William Morrow and Company) by Laurence Peter and Raymond Hull.[3] Hull wrote the text, which was based on Peter's research. Peter and Hull intended the book to be satire,[4] but it became popular as it was seen to make a serious point about the shortcomings of how people are promoted within hierarchical organizations. The Peter principle has since been the subject of much commentary and research.

Putin hasn't lost. Its gone worse than he thought. But Putin is still in a strong position in Russia, and going nowhere in Ukraine. There's no reason to think Russia can't hold onto what they've so far taken

Any CEO or senior corporate manager is under the same stress and pressure as Putin.

Some people just thrive under pressure. The kind of people who don't, can't understand it. People are different.

Ronald Reagan famously said that he couldn't focus at all unless there was great pressure.

I’m sure Putin can hold on to the gains he’s made. For now. But the longer the war goes on, the worse it gets for him. Ukraine doesn’t have to have some huge offensive that expels the Russians. It has to bleed them dry. It has to force Putin to use up his assets as much as possible. It has to force him to rely on reserves, and to draft ethnic Russians and force them to engage in human wave attacks that utterly demoralize the Russians. The Russians will likely gain a few more miles along their broad eastern front. But so fucking what? Ukraine needs to husband its men and resources carefully. If the war goes on and on, the Russians will eventually cave. They don’t want this war. Ukraine has no choice but to fight or die. It might take another five years of this shit, but Russians will eventually realize that they can’t win and will revolt. Putin may never give up, but he won’t live forever. This is Putin’s war, and it will definitely die with him.

The only problem is fucking Trump. The only reason that Ukraine got kicked out of Sudzha was the lack of intelligence sharing by the United States. Fucking Trump is fucking up a golden opportunity for the United States. He’s a fucking Russian agent. But even without US aid, Ukraine can still hold them back.

This must be the most imbecilic and disconnected from reality thing I have seen in a long time.

Here is some read for ukro-nazo lovers.

Paraguayan War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Harry Bosch]

President Zelensky's minimum demands for peace are pretty clear to me: no more land to Russia, release of children kidnapped by Russian Nazis, and international security gurantees.

MSN

Not sure if there is an international force that can help enforce the border. Clearly far more defensive weapons need to go into Ukraine. Make every inch of the Russian/Ukraine border deadly lethal to invaders. Far greater worldwide economic sanctions need to be ready to go if Russia attacks again the future.

 

[barbos]

President Zelensky's minimum demands for peace are pretty clear to me: no more land to Russia, release of children kidnapped by Russian Nazis, and international security gurantees.

No more land? Do you mean he agreed with Donbas going back to Russia?
Seems to me you made up this shit yourself.
Last time I checked (few minutes ago) his demands were Russian capitulation, reparations, the usual stuff.


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By the way, there are unconfirmed rumors that Ermak is asking Americans for personal security guarantees for himself.
Rats are leaving sinking ship called Ukraine.

 

[Harry Bosch]

President Zelensky's minimum demands for peace are pretty clear to me: no more land to Russia, release of children kidnapped by Russian Nazis, and international security gurantees.

No more land? Do you mean he agreed with Donbas going back to Russia?
Seems to me you made up this shit yourself.
Last time I checked (few minutes ago) his demands were Russian capitulation, reparations, the usual stuff.

Considering the history of your posts in this thread, I'm shocked, absolutely shocked, that you don't have current accurate information?!