Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

[crazyfingers]

This is frightening. More fascist shit from the orange turd. Says considering sending US citizens to the prison in El Salvador. I don't believe that the Felon can be trusted only to send "really bad people" to El Salvador. I'm sure that he would send Liz Chaney if he could, along with other political enemies. The Felon is so terrible.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-tarrifs-bukele-visit-04-14-25#cm9h9c13l00143b6oav1nr8mv

Remember all those news people he claimed were traitors?

I do. Yet Trump is the traitor.

 

[Ford]

El Salvador agreed to house violent US criminals and receive deportees of any nationality, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced in February, in an unprecedented — and legally problematic deal — that has alarmed critics and rights groups.

Agreed to house? That's like saying Dachau was an affordable housing project. Truth is, the Trump administration has decided to outsource the whole concentration camp concept. Americans wouldn't stand for a lawless prison camp in, say, Lubbock Texas, so they're just sending the "criminals" to El Salvador. I'm fairly certain that when they were discussing where they could send people, Fragilego Mussolini seriously suggested North Korea as a repository. "I know Kim Jong Un, and he knows prison camps!"

 

[robnisch]

El Salvador agreed to house violent US criminals and receive deportees of any nationality, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced in February, in an unprecedented — and legally problematic deal — that has alarmed critics and rights groups.

Agreed to house? That's like saying Dachau was an affordable housing project. Truth is, the Trump administration has decided to outsource the whole concentration camp concept. Americans wouldn't stand for a lawless prison camp in, say, Lubbock Texas, so they're just sending the "criminals" to El Salvador. I'm fairly certain that when they were discussing where they could send people, Fragilego Mussolini seriously suggested North Korea as a repository. "I know Kim Jong Un, and he knows prison camps!"

El Salvadore is getting about $20,000/a year/head. That's not a lot of bread and water.

 

[TV and credit cards]

El Salvadore is getting about $20,000/a year/head. That's not a lot of bread and water.

For El Salvadore, that's equal to about $100,000 US when considering the purchasing power difference between the two countries. I'll betcha Bukele isn't spending the whole $20,000 on those prisoners.
And Bukele's comment about not returning Garcia is of course horseshit. If Trump told Bukele to return Garcia, he would.

Trump's comments about deporting violent US citizens will for now serve to see if it tamps down political demonstrations and keeps protesters in line.

Are you afraid of your government yet?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

El Salvadore is getting about $20,000/a year/head. That's not a lot of bread and water.

For El Salvadore, that's equal to about $100,000 US when considering the purchasing power difference between the two countries. I'll betcha Bukele isn't spending the whole $20,000 on those prisoners.
And Bukele's comment about not returning Garcia is of course horseshit. If Trump told Bukele to return Garcia, he would.

Trump's comments about deporting violent US citizens will for now serve to see if it tamps down political demonstrations and keeps protesters in line.

Are you afraid of your government yet?

The entire conversation they had was dreadfully disturbing. It was a joke to them. But it was okay because he is a sociopathic dictator and for Trump the deported guy isn't white.

The argument made by Rubio was that of a guy readying a dictatorship, as in the courts can't tell the White House what to do, that they don't have any authority. And AG Bondi was making an argument that you'd see by a desperate person trying to justify these actions on a web board. The only thing left is for them to pop open a Greek book and talk about the origins of the word "facilitate" and how it means they are actually powerless to do anything.

The US is sweeping into dictator mode much faster than I thought would have been possible.

 

[Elixir]

The US is sweeping into dictator mode much faster than I thought would have been possible.

+1
I thought they’d hold off on the overt treason until after the rigging of the 2026 election solidified their control of Congress.
Apparently they are confident that they don’t have to worry about that.

 

[Elixir]

I'll betcha Bukele isn't spending the whole $20,000 on those prisoners.

Total including cost of guards, materials, and G&A is probably around 3k/yr/prisoner.
Most of them are probably already dead (how would anyone know?), but El Sal is still collecting on them.
Where's Leon when you need him?

 

[ZiprHead]

The senator from Maryland is going to El Salvadore to try the get Garcia back.

I hope he succeeds but I Think Garcia will be dead before the senator can do anything at all.

Can't have someone with inside knowlege of the El Savador prison system talking to the press.

 

[crazyfingers]

The senator from Maryland is going to El Salvadore to try the get Garcia back.

I hope he succeeds but I Think Garcia will be dead before the senator can do anything at all.

Can't have someone with inside knowlege of the El Savador prison system talking to the press.

I hope the trip is a success.

 

[Patooka]

The senator from Maryland is going to El Salvadore to try the get Garcia back.

I hope he succeeds but I Think Garcia will be dead before the senator can do anything at all.

Can't have someone with inside knowlege of the El Savador prison system talking to the press.

I hope the trip is a success.

100% with added wish Democrats don't squander this opportunity and hang is around Trump's neck.

 

[lostone]

The senator from Maryland is going to El Salvadore to try the get Garcia back.

I hope he succeeds but I Think Garcia will be dead before the senator can do anything at all.

Can't have someone with inside knowlege of the El Savador prison system talking to the press.

I hope the trip is a success.

I hope he is not seized and held in custody by El Salvador indefinitely, or harmed in any way. I do not expect Trump to make any effort to defend our nation's honor defending our congress-people or to even try to rescue him should that happen. The only thing that moves Trump is punishing his enemies, of whom our Senator is one such. .

 

[Elixir]

Trump has basically declared war on the Supreme Court.
It's hard to see how the Court could stand up to him even if they wanted to. They don't have any enforcement arm that isn't under Apricot control. They don't have an army of willing thugs who will go "teach him a lesson". It's hard to imagine them handing down any ruling that constrains the insurrection, and hard to see how any such thing could be enforced even hypothetically.
There was a clip this AM of Chuck Grassley getting reamed by constituents for Trump's behavior, and Chuck just whimpering... makes me so sick!

 

[lostone]

He does have precedent. Andrew Jackson also defied the Supreme Court, and shipped the Cherokee Indians off to Oklahoma in 1830. The infamous Trail of Tears. Another human rights violation, but our nation has never been the defender and bulwark of human rights that it claims to have been. Which Trump wants to not be taught in our schools, whitewashing our history.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump has basically declared war on the Supreme Court.

Currently he is at war with a lower court. SCOTUS provided a marvelously flaccid rebuke of Trump. So we aren't at the war with SCOTUS quite yet. May never get there. That last ruling by SCOTUS was disgusting, to say the least.

 

[ImGod]

Courts have always had the same problem of enforcing their rulings. Biden did it with student loan forgiveness, etc.

The best case scenario for the Dems at this point is to regain control of the house or senate midterm. Then a bunch of usless committee hearings, impeach votes in the house going nowhere, and shutting down the government. Because they won't have enough votes to remove through impeachment. Vance may actually be worse to have in charge because he'll seem moderate and probably be more calculated to get more done long term under the radar.

Face it, the best that can happen is a total government shutdown in 2 years to attempt to control a lame duck president who will continue using EOs to do whatever he wants. You'll need to unfund his agencies and shut them down to stop his policies. If the Rs prefund him for a year or more before the midterm elections, you're looking at him within 6 months to a year of finishing out anyway.

I don't have any faith in the Dems to fix anything when they get in charge. The US is broken and my guess is they will use every trick Trump is using to punish their opponents. We're in a downward spiral of people pickinh sides and creating lists. I even see it starting at the neighborhood level. Lather, rinse, repeat each election cycle until we split.

 

[scombrid]

Making lists. Gulf of America or Gulf of Mexico. What you call it tells folks what they need to know about what team you are on. That why the GOP is doing such things; enhance and enforce those divisions.

 

[Elixir]

I don't have any faith in the Dems to fix anything when they get in charge. The US is broken and my guess is they will use every trick Trump is using to punish their opponents.

I don’t think so. That’s not their brand. They have never been overtly retributive, and if any such actions were undertaken there would be a revolt from within. The fear and xenophobia that unify the fascists is absent from the libs’ party. That’s one reason they’ve been losing.

 

[Politesse]

He does have precedent. Andrew Jackson also defied the Supreme Court, and shipped the Cherokee Indians off to Oklahoma in 1830. The infamous Trail of Tears. Another human rights violation, but our nation has never been the defender and bulwark of human rights that it claims to have been. Which Trump wants to not be taught in our schools, whitewashing our history.

There wasn't just one removal, either. The first was permitted, and when the Court and Congress proved themselves impotent, a whole series of illegal removals followed. History will repeat itself, here.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump apparently thinks he has free reign over law firms that made a deal with him.

When some of the nation’s biggest law firms agreed to deals with President Trump, the terms appeared straightforward: In return for escaping the full force of his retribution campaign, the firms would do some free legal work on behalf of largely uncontroversial causes like helping veterans.

Mr. Trump, it turns out, has a far more expansive view of what those firms can be called on to do.

Over the last week, he has suggested that the firms will be drafted into helping him negotiate trade deals.

He has mused about having them help with his goal of reviving the coal industry.

But now that nine firms have agreed to deals and committed to nearly $1 billion worth of pro bono legal work, some Trump advisers have started having discussions about a range of options for what the firms’ lawyers can be deployed to work on, according to two people briefed on the matter. That work could include sending the lawyers to help Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency or deploying them to aid the Justice Department, they said.

White House officials believe that some of the pro bono legal work could even be used toward representing Mr. Trump or his allies if they became ensnared in investigations, according to the two people.

 

[ZiprHead]

There's a push to have anyone involved in the Garcia deportation fiasco to have the attorney general of Maryland charge anyone involved with kidnapping