Yet another war, this time with Iran

[DrZoidberg]

Jewishness are both a race, ethnic group, religion and today also often a reference to Israel.

I can roll with the “ethnic group and religion” argument, but Jews being a race? Nah, that’s one of those “consult your imaginary Jewish friend” moments.

We're talking about word usage. Do you think Nazis think Jews are a race? If yes, it goes in the Jewish synonym word bag.

Ah, a misapplication of the Rene Descartes argument, because thinking something is does not make it so.

You've misunderstood Descartes (aka the Cogito argument). With your logic we're unable to even have conversations about dragons and unicorns, because they're not real. Yet, we can. Weird, isn't it?

Nazis think Jews are a race and hates the Jewish race.
Scientificaly minded people don't think Jews are a race. That doesn't make Nazis magically stop hating Jews. That's a misapplication of the Cogito argument.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Shell Oil's first quarter profits hit 6.9 billion dollars. Up 112 % from last quarter.

When crude oil prices go up they just move that cost onto the consumer. They're essentially insulated from fluctations in the oil price market. Their profits come from other stuff.


Big companies rarely make thier money from the things you think. For example. I worked for a while at IKEA's head office. IKEA doesn't make their money from their furniture. They're a real estate company. They use the furniture to boost real estate value around their shops. Their furniture sales are break even.

My sister once worked for an oil company buying and selling patents for them. That was a big and huge side husstle for them. Generated loads of profit. Didn't have anything to do with oil. Just made possible because oil companies sit on massive amounts of temporary money. So while oil is moving in the system they're essentially holding a massive loan from customers they can put to use. Which they are.

 

[Tigers!]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

As victorious as 3 days to Kyiv I guess.

Yes the same american generals were saying that too.

Irony is lost on you.

 

[laughing dog]

Jewishness are both a race, ethnic group, religion and today also often a reference to Israel.

I can roll with the “ethnic group and religion” argument, but Jews being a race? Nah, that’s one of those “consult your imaginary Jewish friend” moments.

We're talking about word usage. Do you think Nazis think Jews are a race? If yes, it goes in the Jewish synonym word bag.

Ah, a misapplication of the Rene Descartes argument, because thinking something is does not make it so.

You've misunderstood Descartes (aka the Cogito argument). With your logic we're unable to even have conversations about dragons and unicorns, because they're not real. Yet, we can. Weird, isn't it?

I agree - your straw man is weird. Claiming antisemitism is racism doesn’t make it so because Jews are not a race. Basing your virtue signaling (“calling out racism”) on a falsehood nullifies its effects.

Nazis think Jews are a race and hates the Jewish race.
Scientificaly minded people don't think Jews are a race. That doesn't make Nazis magically stop hating Jews. That's a misapplication of the Cogito argument.

It is. Which is why I didn’t make such an argument.

 

[ZiprHead]

Shell Oil's first quarter profits hit 6.9 billion dollars. Up 112 % from last quarter.

When crude oil prices go up they just move that cost onto the consumer. They're essentially insulated from fluctations in the oil price market. Their profits come from other stuff.


Big companies rarely make thier money from the things you think. For example. I worked for a while at IKEA's head office. IKEA doesn't make their money from their furniture. They're a real estate company. They use the furniture to boost real estate value around their shops. Their furniture sales are break even.

My sister once worked for an oil company buying and selling patents for them. That was a big and huge side husstle for them. Generated loads of profit. Didn't have anything to do with oil. Just made possible because oil companies sit on massive amounts of temporary money. So while oil is moving in the system they're essentially holding a massive loan from customers they can put to use. Which they are.

Sure, Jan. They made that huge increase in one quarter from buying and selling patents.

 

[DrZoidberg]

Shell Oil's first quarter profits hit 6.9 billion dollars. Up 112 % from last quarter.

When crude oil prices go up they just move that cost onto the consumer. They're essentially insulated from fluctations in the oil price market. Their profits come from other stuff.


Big companies rarely make thier money from the things you think. For example. I worked for a while at IKEA's head office. IKEA doesn't make their money from their furniture. They're a real estate company. They use the furniture to boost real estate value around their

Jewishness are both a race, ethnic group, religion and today also often a reference to Israel.

I can roll with the “ethnic group and religion” argument, but Jews being a race? Nah, that’s one of those “consult your imaginary Jewish friend” moments.

We're talking about word usage. Do you think Nazis think Jews are a race? If yes, it goes in the Jewish synonym word bag.

Ah, a misapplication of the Rene Descartes argument, because thinking something is does not make it so.

You've misunderstood Descartes (aka the Cogito argument). With your logic we're unable to even have conversations about dragons and unicorns, because they're not real. Yet, we can. Weird, isn't it?

I agree - your straw man is weird. Claiming antisemitism is racism doesn’t make it so because Jews are not a race. Basing your virtue signaling (“calling out racism”) on a falsehood nullifies its effects.

You are arguing like a teenager. If racists are motivated by race hate it doesn't matter if the racists are delusional about that race being real or not. What matters is the damage the hate does.

I'd argue racism is the correct word. Its an inheritance from Christian antisemitsm. Which morphed into scientific racist hate, which we have inherited. Its still going strong. Even among non Christian secularists.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

WHAT DO WE WANT?! LABELS!!!

WHEN DO WE WANT THEM?! NOW!!!

An Israeli is bleeding out on the street because a suicide bomber's projectiles cut right through them. The last things going through their mind is likely not whether the terrorist was racist or bigoted.

 

[laughing dog]

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy

You defend Iran and Hamas when you undermine the virtue signaling of those calling out racism/antisemetism humanism.

 

[barbos]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

As victorious as 3 days to Kyiv I guess.

Yes the same american generals were saying that too.

Irony is lost on you.

The irony is on you.

 

[SLD]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Because Trump Always Chickens Out.

Yeah but in this case I want him to. Do you think we should invade with ground troops?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

The fastest possible outcome would have been Tehran's regime being overthrown in 3 days. No way we would manage to take Tehran in 3 days. No one in the biz would have seriously suggested as such.

 

[ZiprHead]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

I cannot find anywhere where a US General, retired or not, who said we could take Tehran in three days. I suspect this is another of your ass facts.

 

[barbos]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

I cannot find anywhere where a US General, retired or not, who said we could take Tehran in three days. I suspect this is another of your ass facts.

So You DID find him saying "Russia would take Kiev is 3 days"? Good.

 

[barbos]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

The fastest possible outcome would have been Tehran's regime being overthrown in 3 days.

Yep, that's what he said "Tehran' in 3 days"
In fact he, among other Grahams, still saying it.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

So, 60 days and mighty US military is not close to capturing Tehran. In fact you currently hold 0% of Iran.
How is that even possible?

Seeing we have no ground troops in the region it really isn't surprising at all. Had the US mobilized two million soldiers, and easily landed on the Iranian coast, we'd still likely not be in Tehran.

Nah, I remember your (retired) generals predicting Tehran in 3 days. So where is the victory?

I cannot find anywhere where a US General, retired or not, who said we could take Tehran in three days. I suspect this is another of your ass facts.

You do realize you are inciting him to post Pravda videos.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Well I don't know wtf barbos is talking about. I'm sure there's a YouTube video out there somewhere that will bring clarity.

As far as I know Trump was trying for a repeat of sorts of Venezuela. Problem was when they took out Khamenei they also took out all expected replacements that might serve as a Delcy Rodriguez-like successor.

 

[SLD]

It seems that this shit for brains president and his incompetent henchman, Hegseth, think all they have to do is say it’s over, or that we’re close to a deal and the markets just react. I think they’re just trolling the markets. Now the Iranians have made unacceptable demands and Trump’s rejected them, as he must. So oil prices have soared again with WTI now back over $100/bbl. Expect some other bullshit to come out of his mouth tomorrow, but not before his cronies get their bets in place first. What a shit show.

 

[DrZoidberg]

This war demonstrates the power of nukes. If Iran had nukes they would have been left alone. Ironically, if the regime isn't toppled they're going to try to get nukes more than ever

 

[TV and credit cards]

It seems that this shit for brains president and his incompetent henchman, Hegseth, think all they have to do is say it’s over, or that we’re close to a deal and the markets just react. I think they’re just trolling the markets. Now the Iranians have made unacceptable demands and Trump’s rejected them, as he must. So oil prices have soared again with WTI now back over $100/bbl. Expect some other bullshit to come out of his mouth tomorrow, but not before his cronies get their bets in place first. What a shit show.

The final arbiter of "it's over":

 

[barbos]

Starvation is scarier than gas prices: