Climate Change(d)?

[DBT]

With such a complex system, world climate, it seems like a bad idea to me.

 

[robnisch]

I have been watching a couple build a house in the mountains of northern Panama on YouTube.
They say they can see a change in the rainy season this year so far.
It is usually the wet season in Panama right now.

 

[steve_bank]

How many wild fires right now?

 

[robnisch]

I have been watching a couple build a house in the mountains of northern Panama on YouTube.
They say they can see a change in the rainy season this year so far.
It is usually the wet season in Panama right now.

MSN

I did not think of this, but they have had water problems in the lakes for a while.
More Panama stuff.

 

[steve_bank]

Old news.

Severe droughts and low water levels in Gatún Lake—driven by El Niño and climate change—have forced the Panama Canal Authority to restrict daily ship transits and cargo weights, severely disrupting global shipping and cutting revenue by hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

[robnisch]

MSN

Polo WTF is wrong with the stupid rich?
And I thought golf was a waste of land and water.

 

[bilby]

MSN

Polo WTF is wrong with the stupid rich?
And I thought golf was a waste of land and water.

Polo is an essential activity for the nation's defence. It provides vital training in horsemanship and dexterity to the nation's cavalrymen, and if the French invade, you will be very glad that this training was not disrupted by mere weather.

Excuse best before 28th July, 1914

 

[DBT]

Golf, forget it. Without Polo, we'd be back in the stone age, no style, no culture.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm thinking about how more and more of the nation is drying up and I'm looking at the Great Lakes Compact, an agreement between states that share the lakes for their water supply. Perhaps fifty years from now the Rust Belt will be some of the most desirable property in the nation.

The predicted strengthening of this year's El Niño is looking like it might have people here mowing the lawn into late December.

Only portions of Rust Belt along lake. Lake water doesn't get that far south.

 

[ZiprHead]

I'm thinking about how more and more of the nation is drying up and I'm looking at the Great Lakes Compact, an agreement between states that share the lakes for their water supply. Perhaps fifty years from now the Rust Belt will be some of the most desirable property in the nation.

The predicted strengthening of this year's El Niño is looking like it might have people here mowing the lawn into late December.

Only portions of Rust Belt along lake. Lake water doesn't get that far south.

Prediction of very little snow this winter for a lot of lower Michigan, due to the El Nino.

 

[brewer]

Sounds like El Nino might be due for a name change.

 

[bilby]

Sounds like El Nino might be due for a name change.

We have been calling it the Southern Oscillation here in Australia for decades; Often it is referred to as ENSO (El Nino Southern Oscillation), or when expressed numerically, as SOI (Southern Oscillation Index).

Of course, being Australia, it works backwards here. When it's causing drought in the Americas, it's causing floods here, and vice-versa.

 

[TV and credit cards]

I'm thinking about how more and more of the nation is drying up and I'm looking at the Great Lakes Compact, an agreement between states that share the lakes for their water supply. Perhaps fifty years from now the Rust Belt will be some of the most desirable property in the nation.

The predicted strengthening of this year's El Niño is looking like it might have people here mowing the lawn into late December.

Only portions of Rust Belt along lake. Lake water doesn't get that far south.

I believe just those within the water shed, which isn't much of Ohio.

 

[thebeave]

Many years ago here in CA, some very mixed up people confused the El Nino weather event with a man in the phone book named Al Nino:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/mr-a-nino-weathers-a-storm-of-protest-1148017.html

FEW PEOPLE know what it's like to be mistaken for a shifting mass of warm water in the Pacific Ocean. But one man in the town of Nipomo, on the coast of California, does. Oh yes, Alfonso Nino - "Al" to his friends - certainly knows.

The phone calls started a few weeks ago. As the weather worsened, so did the tones of complaint. Sometimes the people were rude - and at first the retired naval pilot was confused by them. "What the hell do you mean by making it rain so much?" they would ask. Then the penny dropped: they thought that Al Nino was El Nino, the ocean circulatory system which over the past few months has caused inches of unseasonal rain to be dumped on the state of California.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Many years ago here in CA, some very mixed up people confused the El Nino weather event with a man in the phone book named Al Nino:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/mr-a-nino-weathers-a-storm-of-protest-1148017.html

FEW PEOPLE know what it's like to be mistaken for a shifting mass of warm water in the Pacific Ocean. But one man in the town of Nipomo, on the coast of California, does. Oh yes, Alfonso Nino - "Al" to his friends - certainly knows.

The phone calls started a few weeks ago. As the weather worsened, so did the tones of complaint. Sometimes the people were rude - and at first the retired naval pilot was confused by them. "What the hell do you mean by making it rain so much?" they would ask. Then the penny dropped: they thought that Al Nino was El Nino, the ocean circulatory system which over the past few months has caused inches of unseasonal rain to be dumped on the state of California.

Back in the late seventies I had a friend named Jim Jones. For awhile there there was a kind of uncomfortable silence.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'm thinking about how more and more of the nation is drying up and I'm looking at the Great Lakes Compact, an agreement between states that share the lakes for their water supply. Perhaps fifty years from now the Rust Belt will be some of the most desirable property in the nation.

The predicted strengthening of this year's El Niño is looking like it might have people here mowing the lawn into late December.

Only portions of Rust Belt along lake. Lake water doesn't get that far south.

I believe just those within the water shed, which isn't much of Ohio.

I live in the Watershed, Cuyahoga River is about a quarter-mile from my home. But about as far from Lake Erie as it gets for being adjacent to the Cuyahoga, and we don't get Lake Erie water. The Lake Erie watershed is actually much larger than you think.

 

[southernhybrid]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/26/...e_code=1.8VA.JBxX.94h0vupAAm3x&smid=url-share

I sure wouldn't want to live near any coast these days.... Shared article. Very sad story and it sure sounds likely that it's due to the rapidly warming climate. Oh wait, Trump and company said there is no such thing. Oh well. Maybe when parts of California start slipping into the sea, the denialists will wake up.

Caused by Ice Snapping Off Glacier, Scientists Say​

An initial assessment of satellite imagery suggests an “ice avalanche” from a high-altitude glacier sent a giant cascade into the valley below.

The deadly flooding in Nepal on Wednesday was likely set off at least in part by an enormous chunk of ice snapping off a glacier and cascading thousands of feet to the valley below, according to an initial assessment by a group of geologists and glaciologists. The phenomenon is known as an ice avalanche.

“It looks like a glacier in the area basically snapped off in a clean break, allowing it to fall just over a vertical kilometer to the valley bottom,” said Daniel Shugar, a geologist at the University of Calgary in Canada who studied satellite imagery to analyze what happened.

“The bottom looks like a bomb exploded — it’s just deposits from the broken-up glacier,” he said.

But he said that it was too early to rule out other possible factors behind the flash flooding. Hundreds of people are missing in Nepal and the Chinese territory of Tibet after floodwaters cascaded through river valleys on Wednesday morning. Warming temperatures caused by climate change may have accelerated the glacier’s collapse, scientists said, but they added that it was too early to determine a precise cause.

Across the fast-warming Himalayas, melting glaciers are presenting dangerous new opportunities for avalanches and earthquakes to cause destruction by unleashing torrents of water.

On Wednesday, a chunk of ice with a width of about 2,000 feet snapped cleanly off the glacier, Dr. Shugar said, sending a mixture of ice and water to the valley floor. By his assessment, the chunk of ice fell from an altitude of around 17,000 feet, dropping almost 4,000 feet.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Looks like someone beat me to this article.

This flood was quite something else. Not quite biblical, but a catastrophic flash flood in which reaction for some wasn't even an option. The glacier incident resulted in a 4.4 scaled earthquake. When I saw the video, my first presumption was a dam failed.

 

[steve_bank]

It has been reported before in the Himalayas. Villages swept away

Ice melts creating a lake on or under the ice. Ice dam breaks creating a flood.

Leaned a new term today.

A glacial lake outburst flood (GLOF) is a sudden and catastrophic release of a large volume of water stored in a glacial lake.

 

[southernhybrid]

Looks like someone beat me to this article.

This flood was quite something else. Not quite biblical, but a catastrophic flash flood in which reaction for some wasn't even an option. The glacier incident resulted in a 4.4 scaled earthquake. When I saw the video, my first presumption was a dam failed.

It's very sad and I also read this morning that it's likely there will be more of this type of flooding due to the ice caps melting. I'll see if I can find that article.