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Don2 (Don1 Revised)

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The economy: cost of living, gas, tarriffs. That's mostly it. Just like with the Dem post mortem. Trump building a ballroom and making a point of earning money from oil and grift was insulting to the working poor. Some MAGAs held fast anyway, but this was not about ideology just like it wasn't about ideology when Kamala Harris lost.
 
The economy: cost of living, gas, tarriffs. That's mostly it. Just like with the Dem post mortem. Trump building a ballroom and making a point of earning money from oil and grift was insulting to the working poor. Some MAGAs held fast anyway, but this was not about ideology just like it wasn't about ideology when Kamala Harris lost.
Yep! Ice overreach very big also.
 
The economy: cost of living, gas, tarriffs. That's mostly it. Just like with the Dem post mortem. Trump building a ballroom and making a point of earning money from oil and grift was insulting to the working poor. Some MAGAs held fast anyway, but this was not about ideology just like it wasn't about ideology when Kamala Harris lost.
Ai data centers very big issue also
 
All the above, but mainly, the novelty has worn off, the pain has set in and the masses are pissed off and no longer amused. We may yet be glad the right wing is armed.
 
Trump overreached, interpreting dissatisfaction with Biden/Harris as some sort of generational mandate.

Dems are looking at a huge wave election in 2026, and are likewise in danger of overreaching, esp. with whom they nominate for 2028. This election just made AOC 2028 far more likely than it would be otherwise.
 
Trump overreached, interpreting dissatisfaction with Biden/Harris as some sort of generational mandate.

Dems are looking at a huge wave election in 2026, and are likewise in danger of overreaching, esp. with whom they nominate for 2028. This election just made AOC 2028 far more likely than it would be otherwise.
I fucking hate that I find myself agreeing with you.
 

The economy — once Trump’s strongest issue — is no longer viewed positively by voters, the poll showed.

An overwhelming majority said the economy is in rough shape (75%) — and 65% said Trump’s policies have worsened economic conditions in the U.S. That is the opposite of how voters viewed the economy in 2018. That year, 68% of voters said it was in good shape.
 
Trump overreached, interpreting dissatisfaction with Biden/Harris as some sort of generational mandate.

Dems are looking at a huge wave election in 2026, and are likewise in danger of overreaching, esp. with whom they nominate for 2028. This election just made AOC 2028 far more likely than it would be otherwise.

I totally disagree. This election was dissatisfaction (too weak of a term, more hatred) towards MAGA. And a great nod towards moderates. It's the moderates that won big. The so-called socialists lost in Florida (close elections though); and won by 4 or 5 points in the swing areas. The moderates won by 20-point margins and higher in deep red areas (texas, Georgia, South Carolina, and etc).
 
. This election was dissatisfaction (too weak of a term, more hatred) towards MAGA. And a great nod towards moderates.
I agree. Thing is, moderates are the biggest enemies of ‘I’m not a trumpsuckers’. Because the latter are terminally addicted to the xenophobia and terror of ‘others’, and moderates tend to embrace ‘others’, even if they’re not quite the same shade of white as grandpa. Some even accept ‘others’ who are religious and not Jesus freaks. That is a big threat. Moderates are going to destroy (Trumpsucking) America.
Boo hoo.
 
It has been noted several times by news organizations that the number one issue on voters minds was the corruption in the administration.
 
Trump overreached, interpreting dissatisfaction with Biden/Harris as some sort of generational mandate. Dems are looking at a huge wave election in 2026, and are likewise in danger of overreaching, esp. with whom they nominate for 2028. This election just made AOC 2028 far more likely than it would be otherwise.
Yes Derec. Your paranoia is 100% accurate. After all, is El Sayed got his way, Ocasio-Cortez couldn't even be in Congress.

The Democrat leadership is not going to over-reach. They see 60 seats in the Senate in 2028, which means staying the course, setting a narrative. They aren't getting a super-majority with far left primary candidates in NC, WI, IA. The Blue Dog is back baby! The Tent is bigger.

Just need the leadership and the those like AOC to gain an understanding regarding where to go from here. Howard Dean did in '06 - '08. The Dems can do it again.

So, no impeachment (Trump's resignation is the GOP's job). No crazy legislation. Try to kill the tariffs.
 
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Not corruption. the cost of living and the economy.
I disagree, Steve is right. The Democrats voted thusly, not the moderates/independents. If gasoline was $2.50 a gallon and grocery prices were lower, those people wouldn't have given a damn about the crypto scams. Corruption got out the Democrat vote (and Voting Right Act issues) and costs got out the rest.
 
People do not really care about DC corruption when they are having trouble making ends meet.

Remember Biden? He was tone deaf on the economy. He claimed he was making the economy better and creating jobs and did no hear all that was being said about people struggling.

Remember 'its the economy stupid'?



"It's the economy, stupid" is a catchphrase emphasizing that the primary concern of American voters is the state of the American economy, and how the economy affects their personal finances.[1][2]

The phrase was coined by James Carville in 1992 as "The economy, stupid". It is often quoted from a televised quip by Carville as "It's the economy, stupid". Carville worked as a strategist in Bill Clinton's successful campaign in the 1992 U.S. presidential election against incumbent George H. W. Bush. His phrase was directed at the campaign's workers and intended as one of three messages for them to focus on. The others were "Change vs. more of the same" and "Don't forget health care".

Clinton's campaign advantageously used the then-prevailing recession in the United States as one of the campaign's means to successfully unseat George H. W. Bush. In March 1991, days after the ground war in Kuwait, 90% of polled Americans approved of President Bush's job performance.[3] During the following year, Americans' opinions turned sharply; 64% of polled Americans disapproved of Bush's job performance in August 1992.[3]

Polls I heard say immigration has dropped as a concern. It is the effects of tariffs and the Iran war on cost of living.

Trump keeps saying we are getting rich and people are struggling.

Note that Clinton had a balanced budget and a surplus. Nobody cared he got a blow job in the Oval Office. Nobody cared about Whitewater.

If the economy was good nobody would care about the Trump corruption.

Republicans lost big time because they lined up to kiss Trump's ass to get elected knowing how bad he is. And now Trump true to form is disavowing the candidates he picnicked and spuported and who lost.
 
Mike Johnson has said he will not seek the minority leadership position in the next congress.
 
Not corruption. the cost of living and the economy.

I think they are two sides of the same Trumpcoin: corruption is about the govt misusing tax money for personal gain, but therefore not being used for citizens nor prioritizing their needs. The cost of living is also related to corruption ala the war for oil is increasing gas/diesel prices for citizens but oligarchs are making blood money on it. These things are all economics. They are also offensive to the working poor.
 
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