Have you been to either whilst being an open member of the LGBT community? Because if you have, and you'd be honest instead of just doing your usual 'Russia uber alles' routine, you wouldn't be trying to claim that the former is worse than the latter.
It was what I said it was - unintentional legalistic mishap.
You realize what you're saying here is that its *declassification* was an unintentional legalistic mishap, right? In other words, you're saying that it was Russia's intention to KEEP classifying it as a mental disorder. Is that really what you want to be caught saying in black and white?
You did not mention Ukraine, why is that?
I did, actually, mention Ukraine. I know geography is hard for Russians. Take a look at what I said: ALL of Europe *except* for Russia and Belarus. Ukraine is part of Europe. Therefore, I mentioned it. And yes, Ukraine signed that pro-LGBT declaration.
And it were civilized Europeans who killed Alan Turing. And russians did not kill Chaikovsky. So tone your outrage down a little.
Another typical tu quoque attempt. You're talking about two people who lived before either of us were even born. They are not relevant to the modern situation. You're also conveniently leaving out the fact that Tchaikovsky actively *hid* his homosexuality from society at large; and the actual cause of his death remains controversial to this day with many at the time and even now claiming that it was in fact suicide. As usual, you manage to shoot your own arguments in the foot.
Yes, that's my argument, legal system abuses everyone equally without discrimination.
Except that is demonstrably false, because heterosexuals are not imprisoned for openly talking about heterosexuality.
And it is you who lost here.
Sick burn yo.
They are not as bad as you think in Russia.
http://gawker.com/inside-occupy-pedophilia-russias-largest-anti-gay-vig-1517366131
Yes. It is exactly as bad as I think it is in Russia. You're either just ignorant of what these people actually face, or you're deliberately closing your eyes. I'm not sure which is worse.
They are, but so is any politician including yours.
Our parliament doesn't unanimously vote on ANYTHING. Our politicians are not prone to voting for or against things based on these kinds of minority pressures. Even if some individual politicans might, the nature of our multi-party democratic system ensures that parties and parliament as a whole will not vote against their own positions because they're pressured into it by others.
Your politicians, of course, also don't massively vote against their own beliefs and positions based on such pressure; but I think it's hilarious that the image you paint is of Russia being led by a bunch of cowards who are totally cool with gay people but who are scared of Christian bullies; and that consequently it is in fact the European leaders who have something resembling a spine because they don't habitually vote to deprive entire communities of free speech because a few religious people are pushing them to.
The only reason gays are doing better (relatively speaking) in US is because they have spent a lot of time fighting for it and because majority of people now seem to support them and politicians see that. But 30 years ago US was not better than Russia now.
Yes, even 30 years ago the US was better than Russia is today. Not that it'd be anything remotely resembling a valid point if you were actually right; you're defending Russia on the basis that it's still too ignorant and hateful to be at the same level as the west. Which surely even you must realize isn't a very good justification for its behavior.
