Tea Party policies lead to more prison, more gun deaths, more std's and more teen pregnancy

[ksen]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

More social problems, more need for the church. Win!

 

[boneyard bill]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

 

[Keith&Co.]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

I thought the Tea Party got into office on the 'jobs! jobs! jobs! jobs!' platform?

 

[Ford]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

I thought the Tea Party got into office on the 'jobs! jobs! jobs! jobs!' platform?

I thought it was angry right wing populism with a smattering of veiled anti-Obama racism that was hijacked by cynical monied interests and rolled up into the ongoing kleptocracy.

 

[boneyard bill]

I thought the Tea Party got into office on the 'jobs! jobs! jobs! jobs!' platform?

I thought it was angry right wing populism with a smattering of veiled anti-Obama racism that was hijacked by cynical monied interests and rolled up into the ongoing kleptocracy.

I think a lot of Tea Party people were angry about the bank bail-out, but the Tea Party movement didn't begin until a while later. I suppose you could term in "right wing populism," but I don't think that term carries much information. I think the Tea Party is more "main street" America as distinguished from Wall Street. It is more small-town and small-business oriented. I suppose you could call that "right wing" populism but their counterpart on the left would be organized labor, and I don't think organized labor has been populist for a very long time.

I don't see where being anti-Obama equates to racism. As for kleptocrats, you can find just as many of those on the left as on the right and perhaps more. After all, the two richest men in the world, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, are both liberal Democrats, and in Buffet's case, much of his money was made through government connections. He is probably the world's kleptocrat par excellance.

 

[Trausti]

Tea Party policies lead to more prison, more gun deaths, more std's and more teen pregnancy

So the Tea Party was in charge of Detroit for the last 40 years? Who knew?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

That's what they pretend they are for but they're really just the radical arm of the GOP with the same religious objectives.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

You forgot:
3) Ignore context of nearly 240 years of history
4) No Democrats!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Tea Party policies lead to more prison, more gun deaths, more std's and more teen pregnancy

So the Tea Party was in charge of Detroit for the last 40 years? Who knew?

Gun deaths, teen pregnancy went up in Detroit over the last 40 years?

 

[Bronzeage]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

Bobby Jindel is too conservative for the Tea Party, but then again, it's difficult to say what is and what isn't Tea Party issues. The Tea Party sticks to taxes and spending when they are on the Koch payroll, but it's hard to keep them on the reservation.

Jindel signed Grover Norquist's pledge and since then, all his fiscal policy is designed to keep him within the parameters of the pledge. This has required some sleight of hand tricks with state funds. The latest budget is balanced by use of a tax credit, for a tuition surcharge, which will never be collected. What this means in plain English is, the budget included revenue from a fee(not a tax) which will not be collected, and then a tax credit which offsets the fee. This tax credit is used to show a revenue neutral tax accounting, which pleases Norquist.

The budget was actually examined by the Norquist organization, before Jindel would sign it into law.

 

[boneyard bill]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

Bobby Jindel is too conservative for the Tea Party, but then again, it's difficult to say what is and what isn't Tea Party issues. The Tea Party sticks to taxes and spending when they are on the Koch payroll, but it's hard to keep them on the reservation.

Jindel signed Grover Norquist's pledge and since then, all his fiscal policy is designed to keep him within the parameters of the pledge. This has required some sleight of hand tricks with state funds. The latest budget is balanced by use of a tax credit, for a tuition surcharge, which will never be collected. What this means in plain English is, the budget included revenue from a fee(not a tax) which will not be collected, and then a tax credit which offsets the fee. This tax credit is used to show a revenue neutral tax accounting, which pleases Norquist.

The budget was actually examined by the Norquist organization, before Jindel would sign it into law.

Fine, but Norquist doesn't head a Tea Party group either.

 

[boneyard bill]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

That's what they pretend they are for but they're really just the radical arm of the GOP with the same religious objectives.

Thanks for the insightful analysis. You've provided so much evidence for you claim that I simply have to throw in the towel on this one. It never occurred to entertain completely unsupported personal biases as to the true and unstated objectives of that organization. And by the way the occupy Wall Street movement were also really a bunch of communists.

 

[boneyard bill]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

You forgot:
3) Ignore context of nearly 240 years of history
4) No Democrats!

I haven't the foggiest idea of what point you are trying to make with this post.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The Tea Party? These are people who have government jobs and connections and lots of good government bennies and say government is too big.

 

[Bronzeage]

Bobby Jindel is too conservative for the Tea Party, but then again, it's difficult to say what is and what isn't Tea Party issues. The Tea Party sticks to taxes and spending when they are on the Koch payroll, but it's hard to keep them on the reservation.

Jindel signed Grover Norquist's pledge and since then, all his fiscal policy is designed to keep him within the parameters of the pledge. This has required some sleight of hand tricks with state funds. The latest budget is balanced by use of a tax credit, for a tuition surcharge, which will never be collected. What this means in plain English is, the budget included revenue from a fee(not a tax) which will not be collected, and then a tax credit which offsets the fee. This tax credit is used to show a revenue neutral tax accounting, which pleases Norquist.

The budget was actually examined by the Norquist organization, before Jindel would sign it into law.

Fine, but Norquist doesn't head a Tea Party group either.

He doesn't need Koch money. Do you know of any Jindel policies the tea party(in any of it's manifestations) would disapprove?

 

[SimpleDon]

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/24/3615327/bobby-jindal-running-president-ran-louisiana/

What's not to like? This guy should definitely be the next president.

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

So you are saying that Tea Party Republicans don't have a position on the issues mentioned in the OP?

That it is unfair to characterize the Tea Party as being anti-abortion, anti-family planning, pro-incarceration for nonviolent crimes, anti-sex education, anti-education funding, anti-government subsidized healthcare for the poor, pro-tax cuts for the wealthy and tax increases for everyone else, etc., all of the ways that run of the mill Republicans choose to be wrong about the issues?

That the only misguided, destructive policies that the Tea Party pushes are balancing the budget, paying down the national debt and governing a 21st century society with an 18th century form of government?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

You forgot:
3) Ignore context of nearly 240 years of history
4) No Democrats!

I haven't the foggiest idea of what point you are trying to make with this post.

I was adding the two other tenants of the Tea Party. This whole 'adhere strictly to the constitution' can't be done quite perfectly without the aforementioned ignoring of 240 years of Constitutional Law history.

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What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

So you are saying that Tea Party Republicans don't have a position on the issues mentioned in the OP?

No, BB is talking about the original Tea Party just before 2009. Back then it comprised of nearly 200 Ron "the king maker" Paul fanboys and they got together and had a demonstration that no one noticed.

This "movement" was then hijacked by the radicals in the Republican party to create a "grassroots" Fox News protest.

 

[boneyard bill]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

Bobby Jindel is too conservative for the Tea Party, but then again, it's difficult to say what is and what isn't Tea Party issues. The Tea Party sticks to taxes and spending when they are on the Koch payroll, but it's hard to keep them on the reservation.

Jindel signed Grover Norquist's pledge and since then, all his fiscal policy is designed to keep him within the parameters of the pledge. This has required some sleight of hand tricks with state funds. The latest budget is balanced by use of a tax credit, for a tuition surcharge, which will never be collected. What this means in plain English is, the budget included revenue from a fee(not a tax) which will not be collected, and then a tax credit which offsets the fee. This tax credit is used to show a revenue neutral tax accounting, which pleases Norquist.

The budget was actually examined by the Norquist organization, before Jindel would sign it into law.

I'm not aware of the various Tea Parties taking a position on most of the issues attributable to Jindal in this post. It's sort of like blaming the Occupy Wall Street movement for California's debt problem because Jerry Brown and Occupy Wall Street are in the rough general area of each other political philosophy.

 

[boneyard bill]

What does any of this have to do with the Tea Party? Jindal was not a Tea Party endorsed candidate. As far as I know he has no affiliation with the Tea Party. What Tea Party groups have even taken positions on the issues raised here? Of course, anyone can organize and put "tea party" in their name, but I don't believe that the major Tea Party groups have positions on these issues.

The major principles of the Tea Party movement are 1. balance the budget and 2. adhere strictly to the constitution. I'm not aware that they take any position on more particular issues like birth control or sex education or the confederate flag or countless other issues that clog the mainstream media.

So you are saying that Tea Party Republicans don't have a position on the issues mentioned in the OP?

That it is unfair to characterize the Tea Party as being anti-abortion, anti-family planning, pro-incarceration for nonviolent crimes, anti-sex education, anti-education funding, anti-government subsidized healthcare for the poor, pro-tax cuts for the wealthy and tax increases for everyone else, etc., all of the ways that run of the mill Republicans choose to be wrong about the issues?

That the only misguided, destructive policies that the Tea Party pushes are balancing the budget, paying down the national debt and governing a 21st century society with an 18th century form of government?

I'm not aware of the Tea Parties taking positions on most of the issues you have discussed here. I know that anti-abortion isn't one of their litmus tests.

The constitution has been amended many times since the 18th Century so I don't think it can be characterized as an 18th century form of government. However, it is the fundamental law of the land, and if the fundamental law of the land can be disregarded as inconvenient, then so can all the other laws. So if you think the rule of law is antiquated then I hope you are happy living under a dictatorship.

But as far as I can see, most of the people on these boards simply choose to attribute to the Tea Party any views whatsoever that they choose to attribute. This is ignorance, not analysis. Not one person so far has documented a single claim that they have made regarding the Tea Party.