"Mission Accomplished": Death to America Redefined.

[Nice Squirrel]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/middleeast/ayatollah-death-to-america/index.html

"Death to America" what we really meant was:

"The slogan 'death to America' is backed by reason and wisdom; and it goes without saying that the slogan does not mean death to the American nation; this slogan means death to the U.S.'s policies, death to arrogance."

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Interesting. I guess that's what's behind the groups of Iranians burning policy position statements in effigy and the Iranian government funnelling weapons and money to politcal lobbying groups who are working to influence US lawmakers to enact legislative changes in how America conducts its foreign affairs.

 

[untermensche]

Sounds reasonable.

Death to American aggression, destruction and threats.

Every rational person should agree with this.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Sounds reasonable.

Death to American aggression, destruction and threats.

Every rational person should agree with this.

It goes without saying. Who'd ever be stupid enough to take it at face value?

 

[untermensche]

Sounds reasonable.

Death to American aggression, destruction and threats.

Every rational person should agree with this.

It goes without saying. Who'd ever be stupid enough to take it at face value?

Take what?

The US overturned Iran's democratically elected government.

The US supported Hussein in his attack and decade long war with Iran.

The US has made continual threats. Shot down an Iranian airliner.

What exactly has Iran done besides voice a few words of false bravado?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

It goes without saying. Who'd ever be stupid enough to take it at face value?

Take what?

The US overturned Iran's democratically elected government.

The US supported Hussein in his attack and decade long war with Iran.

The US has made continual threats. Shot down an Iranian airliner.

What exactly has Iran done besides voice a few words of false bravado?

Well, some people thought "Death to America" meant the destruction of the American nation and way of life. Those silly, ignorant people. How could they ever misinterpret it?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Well, some people thought "Death to America" meant the destruction of the American nation and way of life. Those silly, ignorant people. How could they ever misinterpret it?

It's sort of like how driving Israel into the sea really means calming the situation down by giving all the Israelites a free beach vacation to let them know that everyone are pals.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Well, some people thought "Death to America" meant the destruction of the American nation and way of life. Those silly, ignorant people. How could they ever misinterpret it?

It's sort of like how driving Israel into the sea really means calming the situation down by giving all the Israelites a free beach vacation to let them know that everyone are pals.

Exactly. What is everyone getting their undies in a bunch over?

 

[untermensche]

Take what?

The US overturned Iran's democratically elected government.

The US supported Hussein in his attack and decade long war with Iran.

The US has made continual threats. Shot down an Iranian airliner.

What exactly has Iran done besides voice a few words of false bravado?

Well, some people thought "Death to America" meant the destruction of the American nation and way of life. Those silly, ignorant people. How could they ever misinterpret it?

Those who see it as anything greater than an idle threat are the silly and ignorant folks.

The US has done great harm to the people of Iran. Real harm, not a bunch of idle threats.

 

[dismal]

"this slogan means death to the U.S.'s policies."

So, they're against Obamacare.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

"this slogan means death to the U.S.'s policies."

So, they're against Obamacare.

Fucking Iranians.

 

[dismal]

The US overturned Iran's democratically elected government.

If there's one thing theocratic dictators hate it's the overturning of democratic elections.

 

[funinspace]

Duke Nukem:
http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/08/trump-i-will-absolutely-use-a-nuclear-weapon-against-isis/

Trump said. “We’re going to hit them and we’re going to hit them hard. I’m talking about a surgical strike on these ISIS stronghold cities using Trident missiles.”

The Trident is a submarine-launched ballistic missile equipped with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles, or MIRVs. With a payload of up to fourteen reentry vehicles, each carrying a 362-pound thermonuclear warhead with a yield of 100 kilotons, a single Trident has roughly seventy times the destructive power of the atomic bomb dropped on Nagasaki on August 9, 1945.

Carnival Cruz: Sounds like a new and improved SE Asia bombing campaign…good thing we haven’t retired all the B-52’s.
http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...-to-defeat-isis-according-to-ted-cruz/380500/

Like McCain and Graham, Cruz also wants to kill first and ask questions later. He’s suggested that America “bomb [ISIS] back to the Stone Age.” (The quote echoes General Curtis LeMay’s advice during Vietnam; that turned out well.) At this week’s hearing, Cruz demanded not merely that the U.S. “destroy ISIS—not degrade them.” He also demanded that it do so “within 90 days.” When Dempsey said that wasn’t possible, Cruz issued a press release saying the general was wrong.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

So, they're against Obamacare.

Fucking Iranians.

Death to Iran.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Well, some people thought "Death to America" meant the destruction of the American nation and way of life. Those silly, ignorant people. How could they ever misinterpret it?

Those who see it as anything greater than an idle threat are the silly and ignorant folks.

The US has done great harm to the people of Iran. Real harm, not a bunch of idle threats.

Psst: I am being sarcastic.

 

[Derec]

The US overturned Iran's democratically elected government.

Not quite so democratic. He suspended vote counting during his reeelction because he feared he'd lose his lead if all votes were counted.

The US supported Hussein in his attack and decade long war with Iran.

So?

The US has made continual threats. Shot down an Iranian airliner.

By accident.

What exactly has Iran done besides voice a few words of false bravado?

Occupation of the embassy in 1979 slip your mind? How about support for terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah? Making nuclear weapons? Etc.

 

[untermensche]

Those who see it as anything greater than an idle threat are the silly and ignorant folks.

The US has done great harm to the people of Iran. Real harm, not a bunch of idle threats.

Psst: I am being sarcastic. :hugs:

But your sarcastic opinion is a real opinion of many Americans.

So I give the answer as if it were serious.

 

[untermensche]

Not quite so democratic. He suspended vote counting during his reeelction because he feared he'd lose his lead if all votes were counted.

That is the account of the people who overturned him.

He is an alternative version.

An alternative account is offered by Stephen Kinzer. Beginning in the early 1950s under the guidance of C.M. Woodhouse, chief of the British intelligence station in Tehran, Britain's covert operations network had funneled roughly £10,000 per month to the Rashidian brothers (two of Iran's most influential royalists) in the hope of buying off, according to CIA estimates, "the armed forces, the Majlis (Iranian parliament), religious leaders, the press, street gangs, politicians and other influential figures".[31] Thus, in his statement asserting electoral manipulation by "foreign agents", Mosaddegh suspended the elections. His National Front party had made up 30 of the 79 deputies elected. Yet none of those present vetoed the statement, and the elections were postponed indefinitely. The 17th Majlis convened on February 1952.

Here is why Mosaddegh was deposed.

The new administration introduced a wide range of social reforms: unemployment compensation was introduced, factory owners were ordered to pay benefits to sick and injured workers, and peasants were freed from forced labor in their landlords' estates. Twenty percent of the money landlords received in rent was placed in a fund to pay for development projects such as public baths, rural housing, and pest control.

On 1 May, Mosaddegh nationalized the AIOC, cancelling its oil concession (expired in 1993) and expropriating its assets. The next month, a committee of five majlis deputies was sent to Khuzistan to enforce the nationalization.[25][26] Mosaddegh explained his nationalization policy in a 21 June 1951 speech:

“ Our long years of negotiations with foreign countries...have yielded no results thus far. With the oil revenues we could meet our entire budget and combat poverty, disease, and backwardness among our people. Another important consideration is that by the elimination of the power of the British company, we would also eliminate corruption and intrigue, by means of which the internal affairs of our country have been influenced. Once this tutelage has ceased, Iran will have achieved its economic and political independence. The Iranian state prefers to take over the production of petroleum itself. The company should do nothing else but return its property to the rightful owners. The nationalization law provide that 25% of the net profits on oil be set aside to meet all the legitimate claims of the company for compensation. It has been asserted abroad that Iran intends to expel the foreign oil experts from the country and then shut down oil installations. Not only is this allegation absurd; it is utter invention.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

It was purely economic, mostly the economy of the British that relied on the stealing of other people's resources.

The US supported Hussein in his attack and decade long war with Iran.

So?

When you mature into adulthood you might possibly understand.

Hint; a few Iranians were harmed.

The US has made continual threats. Shot down an Iranian airliner.

By accident.

By accident IN Iranian airspace on a known and common commercial route.

What exactly has Iran done besides voice a few words of false bravado?

Occupation of the embassy in 1979 slip your mind?

They had a revolution.

BECAUSE the US and Britain installed a brutal tyrant in place of their democratic government. Maybe if the US hadn't installed a tyrant it wouldn't have had it's embassy taken over.

How about support for terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah?

These are groups called terrorists by nations that just launched a massive terrorist attack of Iraq. Their labels have no validity.

Making nuclear weapons? Etc.

The US has thousands of nuclear weapons.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

And I've got some prime Everglades farmland to go with this declaration.

 

[untermensche]

And I've got some prime Everglades farmland to go with this declaration.

Statements from nations reflect attitudes, not truth.

It shows a softening of attitude.

It is a good thing.