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Latest Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll

Likely Republican caucus-goers want government disruption from their candidate, with 42 percent saying it's a major consideration and another 6 percent saying it's most important in their decision-making.

On that count, Trump easily beats Cruz, with 71 percent of all likely Republican caucus participants saying that between the two, the businessman would be the most disruptive to government. Even among Cruz's supporters, 59 percent say Trump is more disruptive.
“He speaks his mind and he'd probably be a good change from the establishment politicians that we have had who haven't done anything useful,” said Trump supporter Richard Kniseley, 60, a pharmaceutical auditor from Ft. Dodge, Iowa. “It might be a bit of a risk, but I think we need to do something different.”



Wheeeeeeee! Loose the hounds!
 
Wow. Today's conservatives have really lost their shit.

BTW, how do I get a job as a pharmaceutical auditor? Wheeeeee! Loose the drugs!
 
They would have made great Nazis.

And I accept my Godwin award.

And what kind of fuckwit voter is not going to consider someone like Cruz a political insider? That's about as stupid as saying the governor of some majorly populous state is not a political insider...I mean...wait a minute...
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
“He speaks his mind and he'd probably be a good change from the establishment politicians that we have had who haven't done anything useful,” said Trump supporter Richard Kniseley, 60, a pharmaceutical auditor from Ft. Dodge, Iowa. “It might be a bit of a risk, but I think we need to do something different.”
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So, basically, hope and change?
 
Bomb#20 said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
“He speaks his mind and he'd probably be a good change from the establishment politicians that we have had who haven't done anything useful,” said Trump supporter Richard Kniseley, 60, a pharmaceutical auditor from Ft. Dodge, Iowa. “It might be a bit of a risk, but I think we need to do something different.”
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So, basically, hope and change?
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Analysis of Trump's tax plans will cause us to run nearly a trillion dollars more deficits a year for the next ten years. Obviously, these burn it down Republicans don't understand that Trump will give us massive deficits that the Republicans all give lip service to hating deficits. Yes, he'll disrupt the government alright. Just not the way they think they want.
 
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joedad said:
They would have made great Nazis.

And I accept my Godwin award.
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The word you are looking for is fascists. These people would have loved Mussolini.

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Bomb#20 said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
Analysis of Trump's tax plans will cause us to run nearly a trillion dollars more deficits a year for <snip>
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Oh, I'm sorry, is this a Trump sucks! thread? I thought it was a Trump supporters are Daleks! thread. My bad.
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Actually it is more of "this guy's supporters haven't a clue" thread. When they say "we need a change" they mean "TARP was a bad idea, should have let the globe burn" type of change.
 
Bomb#20 said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
Analysis of Trump's tax plans will cause us to run nearly a trillion dollars more deficits a year for <snip>
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Oh, I'm sorry, is this a Trump sucks! thread? I thought it was a Trump supporters are Daleks! thread. My bad.
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It's more like Trump offers economic disaster, the little GOP sheep don't notice. Many want to "disrupt" the government, yeah, Trump will do that alright. Ironic, isn't it?
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Bomb#20 said:
Oh, I'm sorry, is this a Trump sucks! thread? I thought it was a Trump supporters are Daleks! thread. My bad.
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Actually it is more of "this guy's supporters haven't a clue" thread.
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Well, that's certainly true. But then, show me a candidate over 1% in the polls whose supporters have a clue.

When they say "we need a change" they mean "TARP was a bad idea, should have let the globe burn" type of change.
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Well, no, most of the ones who think TARP was a bad idea don't believe the globe would have burned without it.

Cheerful Charlie said:
It's more like Trump offers economic disaster, the little GOP sheep don't notice. Many want to "disrupt" the government, yeah, Trump will do that alright. Ironic, isn't it?
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Most of Obama's supporters thought he was going to disrupt the government too -- that was pretty much the whole point of the hype. It's how he got a Nobel Prize just for being elected President Not-Bush. People who perceive business-as-usual in government as not doing anything to solve their problems will always go in large numbers for somebody very different from the run-of-the-mill candidate, figuring that he'll bring massive change, and hoping, usually without evidence, that it will be change for the better. It doesn't make them bad people.
 
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Jimmy Higgins said:
Actually it is more of "this guy's supporters haven't a clue" thread.
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Well, that's certainly true. But then, show me a candidate over 1% in the polls whose supporters have a clue.
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Ah ha! Riposte! I mean other than trying be clever, though, did you have a point?

When they say "we need a change" they mean "TARP was a bad idea, should have let the globe burn" type of change.
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Well, no, most of the ones who think TARP was a bad idea don't believe the globe would have burned without it.
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Actually, those like BB out there admitted it would hurt more.
 
If there were a "disrupt the government" lever in the voting booth I would be very tempted to pull it.

But what I have in mind is real disruptive things, like packing up all the congress members offices and setting them up outside on the National Mall one day and in some Smithsonian exhibit the next. And holding sessions in random places like the top of the Washington Monument with one hour's notice.
 
I don't know about Iowa voters but I have a number of family members who love Trump. Partly because he's a rich SOB but mostly because he's a rich SOB who isn't afraid to say any outlandishly bigoted thing that crosses his mind --or that his handlers feed him in case the pandering quotient dips below hysterical levels.

Also there is a big uptick in Obama sucks Facebook memes, most of which are thinly veiled racism and all of which are full on delusion. Same family who are complaining that the country is going downhill fast! under Obama now can afford to take tacky winter cruises and remodel their kitchen when 8 years ago they were worried about losing their homes. But more people with a heavier level of melanin live in the county and their accents aren't even Mexican, so: Muslim terrorists.
 
Toni said:
I don't know about Iowa voters but I have a number of family members who love Trump. Partly because he's a rich SOB but mostly because he's a rich SOB who isn't afraid to say any outlandishly bigoted thing that crosses his mind --or that his handlers feed him in case the pandering quotient dips below hysterical levels.

Also there is a big uptick in Obama sucks Facebook memes, most of which are thinly veiled racism and all of which are full on delusion. Same family who are complaining that the country is going downhill fast! under Obama now can afford to take tacky winter cruises and remodel their kitchen when 8 years ago they were worried about losing their homes. But more people with a heavier level of melanin live in the county and their accents aren't even Mexican, so: Muslim terrorists.
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Seeing that same dynamic in my family where the Trumpers are also the religious supremacists. Their unabashed stupidity just reminds me that Dunning Kruger is alive and well.
 
Wouldn't voting for Sanders have the same disruptive affect on the Dem side?
 
ImGod said:
Wouldn't voting for Sanders have the same disruptive affect on the Dem side?
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Clinton will have enough Delegates to likely win out right, and even if not, she'll have the Super Delegates to push her over the top. So a vote for Sanders is a vote to back his Convention Speech.
 
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