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Driving While Black, lawyer explains how America's injustice system works

 
 
 
I read it. I read it in its entirety. That just goes to show he wasn't an atheist. No atheist (and no, that's not a generalization, as no exception exists), so I repeat, NO ATHEIST, would have swerved to avoid that particular animal.

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I'm an atheist. I swerve to avoid hitting cats. I even swerve to avoid hitting squirrels, nice or not.
 
Not just the courts. My mother was a lab technician at a hospital and the doctor who delivered the babies hated paying for the welfare state and hated welfare mothers coming in. He made the comment that if a woman on welfare could not open up he would let her just sit there writhing in pain for as long as he safely could without hurting her or the baby. Anyone with money or regular insurance he'd wisk away and do the c-section on right off. But he loved to make the welfare women suffer.

Now this made my mother angry but he quipped this in front of her with no other witnesses so it was her word vs his.
 
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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It got the charges dropped, that is what is so special.

Burns you up that is did, doesn't it?
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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You're right Judge Loren. The debunking evidence needs explanation but of course the cop was busy eating donuts while saving the world from speeders so he couldn't be in court to discuss it. You should contact the Prosecution to retry the case. Oh wait, this isn't North Korea. Never mind.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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If car skids sideway you can get something like that. it can also be photoshop.
 
BH said:
Not just the courts. My mother was a lab technician at a hospital and the doctor who delivered the babies hated paying for the welfare state and hated welfare mothers coming in. He made the comment that if a woman on welfare could not open up he would let her just sit there writhing in pain for as long as he safely could without hurting her or the baby. Anyone with money or regular insurance he'd wisk away and do the c-section on right off. But he loved to make the welfare women suffer.

Now this made my mother angry but he quipped this in front of her with no other witnesses so it was her word vs his.
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Fuck, that pisses me off.

The most upsetting thing about the posted article is about how systemic issues can massively amplify the effects of even small amounts of racism, but in your story the racism is... fuck. What an asshole.

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Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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Count on Loren to look for any possible excuse, no matter how lame, in order to support the state abusing its power over citizens. You know, because he's such a small government kind of guy and all.

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That's some of the worst click bait I've seen in a while, chum for the SJW.
 
TF Free Fall Post Award Winner

Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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I'm creating a new TF Award. I call it the TF Free Fall Post Award. This award will be given to any poster that posts a statement that indicates that what physical evidence clearly indicates is impossible. The award is inspired by the "Faster than free fall" (which is physically impossible) arguments in the ole 9/11 threads.

Here we have a pair of skid marks on the road. These skid marks were made by a vehicle. To deny that they can be made such is award winning, when they actually were.

Also, that is the worst donut ever!

Congrats Loren. Take your award for denying the obvious.
 
TSwizzle said:
That's some of the worst click bait I've seen in a while, chum for the SJW.
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Oh no! You called me a social justice warrior! I am truly mortified, sir! I take it all back! Did I hurt your feelings in some way? I am obviously a terrible, terrible person! Thank you for pointing out what a terrible person I am so that I can stop doing such terrible, terrible things! Can you ever find it in your heart to forgive someone as lowly as me?

Who exactly do you think you are fooling with that "social justice warrior" crap?

Everyone figured out your kind's shtick with that "political correctness" stuff. It was just a cheap rhetorical tactic to change the subject of conversation any time a racist (or sexist or homophobe) got called out for being an asshole. Pull out the old "political correctness" accusation, and suddenly everyone is talking about whether or not your accuser is a bad person instead of whether or not you are a racist.

The sad thing is that this obvious red herring fallacy works on many people.

Anyway, people figured out your shtick with the "political correctness" nonsense, so now you think you can get away with the same thing just by switching to the phrase "social justice warrior" instead? Really?

Who exactly are you trying to fool here, us or yourself?
 
Simply using phrases like "political correctness" or "social justice warrior" is like putting a big stamp on your forehead telling everyone that you're a racist and very upset that people call you out on it.
 
barbos said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Huh? What in the world is that picture supposed to prove? There happen to be two skid marks there. There isn't an ordinary vehicle out there that can leave skid marks like that--car skid marks will be parallel, a motorcycle can't leave skid marks as far apart as those are at the far end. If the shot shows anything it's that the street is too narrow for a 360 but what indication do we have that this is where it happened? What's special about this shot?
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If car skids sideway you can get something like that. it can also be photoshop.
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Or the whole thing is a fabrication, he just used a convenient picture.
 
My underwear has more convincing skid marks than the photo. WTF, were these pics taken with a 1990's Nokia ? LOL ! Reallly, get a grip.
 
TSwizzle said:
My underwear has more convincing skid marks than the photo. WTF, were these pics taken with a 1990's Nokia ? LOL ! Reallly, get a grip.
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That of course is the point.

And the reason this whole thing reeks of racism.
 
TSwizzle said:
My underwear has more convincing skid marks than the photo. WTF, were these pics taken with a 1990's Nokia ? LOL ! Reallly, get a grip.
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OMGOMG Social justice warrior! Reverse racism! Racialism! Race card! Race card! Teh pikchur looks faek! OMG! :p

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TSwizzle said:
My underwear has more convincing skid marks than the photo. WTF, were these pics taken with a 1990's Nokia ? LOL ! Reallly, get a grip.
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To respond to your argument less sarcastically, do you have any idea how weak your argument sounds? The evidence is not compelling to you solely because you are desperate to reject a certain conclusion. Obviously, a judge thought the evidence was more than good enough to throw the case out.

Oh my gosh! This means the judge is part of a vast conspiracy to persecute racists! Someone call FOX News! This is a travesty!
 
Excellent work agent underpants, you've got me bang to rights, it's a fair cop.
 
The tracks in the photo are pretty much a red herring, but not the photo itself. The actual problem for the prosecution is that the burden of proof is on them. So if a photo of the location is brought to the court and it has no picture of "clear 360" degree circles, it doesn't matter if the photo also has kitty kats and flowers in it. The officer's claim is debunked. Since the burden of proof is on the prosecution, they don't really have a case left at that point except a he-said/she-said case. Now that there were some tracks which could theoretically have been made by a car does give some credence to the defense story but it is not a necessary element at all (since once again the burden is on the prosecution).

The uninteresting thing about this case is that it has typical elements that have been discussed in the forum before--such as the defendant is innocent until proven guilty, such as burden of proof on the prosecution, such as he-said/she-said. But the same people in the forum who would defend a cop with a smoking gun standing over a dead naked black man with handcuffs on his hands and feet and 27 bullets in his head can't for some reason wrap their heads around the idea that the young black man in this story has those same assumed legal rights. Note that I wrote that it is "uninteresting" with the prefix un-. It's uninteresting because we've observed it before so many times it's boring.
 
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