Cases where police went to jail

[BH]

Hello,

Can anyone here give me some examples where the police actually served time in jail for shooting a suspect or beating a suspect? I am sure there are examples but wonder if any of you could give me some of the best cases.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Here's an article about that from last year

Here Are All of the Cops Who Were Charged in 2015 for Shooting Suspects

Out of all of the thousands of police shootings every year, about five officers are charged. That shows how cops are really, really good at deciding when force is justified to have only crossed the line in such a small fraction of the cases and additional oversight would just be wasted money. The number who get charged seems to triple when you include the cases where cops are videotaped, probably because the stage anxiety of knowing that they're being filmed impairs their judgment and causes them to make more mistakes. Therefore, videotaping cops shooting people leads to more unwarranted shootings and should be banned.

Now, those are only charges and not convictions, but the info from the article should help get more details about what happened in the cases.

 

[Derec]

Not a very up-to date article Sawyer. At least one of these people in the article, Stephen Rankin was convicted and sentenced to 2.5 years, even though the dead guy shoplifted and struggled with the officer. The case is on appeal though, and I hope Rankin prevails because the jury was not allowed to be told that Champan stole clothes from the Walmart, so they probably thought Rankin confronted Champan for no reason. The witnesses also say that Champan broke free from Rankin trying to handcuff him, and then knocked the taser out of Rankin's hand and came at him. I for the life of me can't see how that should have resulted in a charge, much less conviction. Or a $1,000,000 settlement with the family. Have your son steal from Walmart and become a millionaire. Madness!
Ex-Officer Stephen Rankin's victim stole $31 in clothing before death, police report says
Another cop, Peter Liang, was convicted but did not get jail time for accidental shooting of Akai Gurley.
No prison time for ex-NYPD Officer Peter Liang in fatal shooting of Akai Gurley
Not sure about the others, but I am sure many have updates by now.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

Not a very up-to date article Sawyer.

Gee. If only I'd mentioned the date that the article was from in the first fucking sentence of my post.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Here's an article about that from last year

Here Are All of the Cops Who Were Charged in 2015 for Shooting Suspects

Out of all of the thousands of police shootings every year, about five officers are charged. That shows how cops are really, really good at deciding when force is justified to have only crossed the line in such a small fraction of the cases and additional oversight would just be wasted money. The number who get charged seems to triple when you include the cases where cops are videotaped, probably because the stage anxiety of knowing that they're being filmed impairs their judgment and causes them to make more mistakes. Therefore, videotaping cops shooting people leads to more unwarranted shootings and should be banned.

Now, those are only charges and not convictions, but the info from the article should help get more details about what happened in the cases.

Or the civilian videos make for political prosecutions.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

The number who get charged seems to triple when you include the cases where cops are videotaped, probably because the stage anxiety of knowing that they're being filmed impairs their judgment and causes them to make more mistakes. Therefore, videotaping cops shooting people leads to more unwarranted shootings and should be banned.

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Tom Sawyer]

The number who get charged seems to triple when you include the cases where cops are videotaped, probably because the stage anxiety of knowing that they're being filmed impairs their judgment and causes them to make more mistakes. Therefore, videotaping cops shooting people leads to more unwarranted shootings and should be banned.

Is this sarcasm?

It's basic logic. When police aren't being videotaped, they are cleared of wrongdoing in shootings at about three times the rate as they are when they're not videotaped. This suggests that it's the videotaping that's the problem and stage fright is a thing and it can be caused by knowing you're on video. The anxiety caused by stage fright is known to impair judgment and concentration, so it's easy to conclude that this is the cause of that difference. Therefore, if you made it crime to videotape cops when they're in situations where they have to decide whether or not to shoot people, their judgment would be the same as it was in the thousands of other times that they shot people and were found to be in the right by doing so and not impaired by this negative influence on their choices. That means that less people would be shot when they're not supposed to have been.

 

[bilby]

The number who get charged seems to triple when you include the cases where cops are videotaped, probably because the stage anxiety of knowing that they're being filmed impairs their judgment and causes them to make more mistakes. Therefore, videotaping cops shooting people leads to more unwarranted shootings and should be banned.

Is this sarcasm?

The clue is here:

Originally posted by Tom Sawyer

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Is this sarcasm?

The clue is here:

Originally posted by Tom Sawyer

Okay. I got confused for a second because everyone I know has gone completely out of their minds since election day.

 

[laughing dog]

Not a very up-to date article Sawyer. At least one of these people in the article, Stephen Rankin was convicted and sentenced to 2.5 years, even though the dead guy shoplifted and struggled with the officer. The case is on appeal though, and I hope Rankin prevails because the jury was not allowed to be told that Champan stole clothes from the Walmart, so they probably thought Rankin confronted Champan for no reason. The witnesses also say that Champan broke free from Rankin trying to handcuff him, and then knocked the taser out of Rankin's hand and came at him. I for the life of me can't see how that should have resulted in a charge, much less conviction.

Is your name Jean Valjean by any chance?

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Here's one. A 12-year sentence, including a mandatory 5 years for the gun violation.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-ci-cagle-sentencing-20161117-story.html

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Not a very up-to date article Sawyer. At least one of these people in the article, Stephen Rankin was convicted and sentenced to 2.5 years, even though the dead guy shoplifted and struggled with the officer. The case is on appeal though, and I hope Rankin prevails because the jury was not allowed to be told that Champan stole clothes from the Walmart, so they probably thought Rankin confronted Champan for no reason. The witnesses also say that Champan broke free from Rankin trying to handcuff him, and then knocked the taser out of Rankin's hand and came at him. I for the life of me can't see how that should have resulted in a charge, much less conviction.

Is your name Jean Valjean by any chance?

Javert, maybe.

 

[Derec]

Is your name Jean Valjean by any chance?

Javert, maybe.

Why? He wasn't killed because he shoplifted. He was killed because he resisted arrest and then made a threatening move toward the officer. What shoplifting did was give the cop a legimitate reason to engage and arrest Chapman. By not allowing the jury to hear about the shoplifting, the jury did not have a complete picture of the events that day and thus they probably decided on an incorrect verdict. An appeal should take that into consideration.

Had Chapman decided to pay for the merchandise he would still have been alive today. Had he chosen to let himself be arrested for shoplifting when he got caught, he would still have been alive today. His death was caused by his own choices and actions.
Also, why do thieves always have to be compared with Jean Valjean? Chapman is no Valjean. He would not have starved had he not gotten a Stewie t-shirt that day.