What should be the epithet for the new conspiracy kooks?

[Jason Harvestdancer]

For the last 8 years we've had the "birthers", those who were convinced that Obama wasn't born in the US. They generally fell for other conspiracy theories about him as well, such as him being an atheist muslim or some such. One person in this forum (some sort of seer) even thinks Obama had a secret weather machine. Go figure. Those who followed the other conspiracy theories also followed the birth certificate conspiracy, so it was safe to lump them all under the birther label.

Now for the next four years we're going to have people who think the Russians hacked the US election. They are following the lead of the birthers and falling for other crazy stories, such as the Russian prostitute urination hoax, but the main kooky conspiracy theory they're falling for is Russian Hackers.

So what label shall we use for the next four years for the Russian Hacker conspiracy theorists?

 

[dismal]

Golden Truthers?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

For the last 8 years we've had the "birthers", those who were convinced that Obama wasn't born in the US. They generally fell for other conspiracy theories about him as well, such as him being an atheist muslim or some such. One person in this forum (some sort of seer) even thinks Obama had a secret weather machine. Go figure. Those who followed the other conspiracy theories also followed the birth certificate conspiracy, so it was safe to lump them all under the birther label.

Now for the next four years we're going to have people who think the Russians hacked the US election. They are following the lead of the birthers and falling for other crazy stories, such as the Russian prostitute urination hoax, but the main kooky conspiracy theory they're falling for is Russian Hackers.

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

 

[Elixir]

For the last 8 years we've had the "birthers", those who were convinced that Obama wasn't born in the US. They generally fell for other conspiracy theories about him as well, such as him being an atheist muslim or some such. One person in this forum (some sort of seer) even thinks Obama had a secret weather machine. Go figure. Those who followed the other conspiracy theories also followed the birth certificate conspiracy, so it was safe to lump them all under the birther label.

Now for the next four years we're going to have people who think the Russians hacked the US election. They are following the lead of the birthers and falling for other crazy stories, such as the Russian prostitute urination hoax, but the main kooky conspiracy theory they're falling for is Russian Hackers.

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Looky here - it's all FAKE NEWS. CNN? Fake news. MSNBC? SUPER Fake news. FOX? Semi-fake news.
The only non-fake news is that which ushereth forth from the mouth of the fat orange oracle.
Oh, wait... even HE says the Russians hacked the US election.

I guess Jason has appointed himself arbiter of fake news.

 

[Derec]

Golden Truthers?

 

[dismal]

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

Looky here - it's all FAKE NEWS. CNN? Fake news. MSNBC? SUPER Fake news. FOX? Semi-fake news.
The only non-fake news is that which ushereth forth from the mouth of the fat orange oracle.
Oh, wait... even HE says the Russians hacked the US election.

I guess Jason has appointed himself arbiter of fake news.

So, just to establish a principle here: you would be happy to see news agencies report on unsubstantiated opposition research and rumors in future elections?

 

[Derec]

So, just to establish a principle here: you would be happy to see news agencies report on unsubstantiated opposition research and rumors in future elections?

When they arise to the level of intelligence services briefing both Obama and Trump on it, then yes, news agencies should report on it. They should include the caveat that they could not corroborate the contents independently, but to report that there are allegations being made is not fake news.

 

[dismal]

So, just to establish a principle here: you would be happy to see news agencies report on unsubstantiated opposition research and rumors in future elections?

When they arise to the level of intelligence services briefing both Obama and Trump on it, then yes, news agencies should report on it. They should include the caveat that they could not corroborate the contents independently, but to report that there are allegations being made is not fake news.

Why? Does an intelligence agency reporting on unsubstantiated rumors substantiate them?

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Golden Truthers?

That applies to the ancillary conspiracy theory, but it is a fun name.

How about "Putineers"?

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

When they arise to the level of intelligence services briefing both Obama and Trump on it, then yes, news agencies should report on it. They should include the caveat that they could not corroborate the contents independently, but to report that there are allegations being made is not fake news.

Why? Does an intelligence agency reporting on unsubstantiated rumors substantiate them?

James Comey says "Fuck yeah!".

 

[dismal]

Why? Does an intelligence agency reporting on unsubstantiated rumors substantiate them?

James Comey says "Fuck yeah!".

So, in the Trump/Clinton 2020 rematch if Trump has his opposition research presented to him by some intelligence agency it's all real news?

Even the stuff on the internet about her orgies with goats and chickens?

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

James Comey says "Fuck yeah!".

So, in the Trump/Clinton 2020 rematch if Trump has his opposition research presented to him by some intelligence agency it's all real news?

Even the stuff on the internet about her orgies with goats and chickens?

Ask Comey.

 

[laughing dog]

When they arise to the level of intelligence services briefing both Obama and Trump on it, then yes, news agencies should report on it. They should include the caveat that they could not corroborate the contents independently, but to report that there are allegations being made is not fake news.

Why? Does an intelligence agency reporting on unsubstantiated rumors substantiate them?

No. One would think it is obvious that it is news that these allegations are being made and circulated about official circles. Did you even bother to notice that Derec included the reports "should include the caveat that they could not corroborate the contents independently, but to report that there are allegations being made is not fake news."?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

Are we still considering this Russian meddling in the election a conspiracy?

 

[PyramidHead]

Are we still considering this Russian meddling in the election a conspiracy?

Well, it's certainly a conspiracy if it's true. Lots of conspiring must have gone on.

 

[Will Wiley]

For the last 8 years we've had the "birthers", those who were convinced that Obama wasn't born in the US. They generally fell for other conspiracy theories about him as well, such as him being an atheist muslim or some such. One person in this forum (some sort of seer) even thinks Obama had a secret weather machine. Go figure. Those who followed the other conspiracy theories also followed the birth certificate conspiracy, so it was safe to lump them all under the birther label.

Now for the next four years we're going to have people who think the Russians hacked the US election. They are following the lead of the birthers and falling for other crazy stories, such as the Russian prostitute urination hoax, but the main kooky conspiracy theory they're falling for is Russian Hackers.

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

There seems to be some doubt. Do you think your intelligence agencies get things wrong a bit?

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t5zbKnvQk[/YOUTUBE]

 

[KeepTalking]

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

There seems to be some doubt. Do you think your intelligence agencies get things wrong a bit?

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t5zbKnvQk[/YOUTUBE]

Well, as long as RT and an international fugitive from justice are saying it, I guess it's case closed...

 

[thebeave]

Not sure John McAfee is a good authority to boost your case....

 

[funinspace]

I think Nipples would appreciate 'Goldshower' for the epitaph

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So you don't believe the Russians hacked into the DNC despite numerous reports from intelligence agencies?

https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

There seems to be some doubt. Do you think your intelligence agencies get things wrong a bit?

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t5zbKnvQk[/YOUTUBE]

You realize McAfee went nutcase some time ago?