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Judge "counsels" rape victim - "Why couldn't you just keep your knees together"?

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Among Federal Court Justice Robin Camp's remarks during a 2014 sexual assault trial, according to a notice of allegations posted on the Canadian Judicial Council website:

"Why couldn't you just keep your knees together? Why didn't you just sink your bottom down into the basin so he couldn't penetrate you?"

Young women, the judge said, "want to have sex, particularly if they're drunk," according to the notice.

He also said that "some sex and pain sometimes go together" and "that's not necessarily a bad thing."
(source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/09/09/judge-could-lose-job-for-berating-rape-accuser-why-couldnt-you-just-keep-your-knees-together/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.5424dcb21043

Obviously, this judge was just giving friendly advice to help keep unwanted penises out of her vagina. So why all the fuss?
 
Wikipedia said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Camp
In 2014, Camp was presiding over a sexual assault trial. When the alleged rape victim was testifying, Camp asked her why she "couldn't just keep [her] knees together" or "sink your bottom" into the bathroom sink to avoid being raped.[6][8] Camp also described her as "the accused" throughout the trial,[9] criticized her for not screaming while the alleged assault took place,[10] and suggested she wanted to have sex.[11] He asked her why she didn't "skew her pelvis" to avoid penetration. He also said that "sex and pain sometimes go together, that — that's not necessarily a bad thing."[7] Camp later acquitted the defendant Alexander Wagar.[12]
After acquitting him, he told the defendant, "I want you to tell your friends, your male friends, that they have to be far more gentle with women. They have to be far more patient. And they have to be very careful. To protect themselves, they have to be very careful."[13]
In October 2015, the Court of Appeal of Alberta struck down Camp's decision and ordered a retrial. The court said that Camp seemed to not understand the laws on consent and an alleged rape victim's sexual activity, and that judge may have used "sexual stereotypes and stereotypical myths, which have long since been discredited."[14] In January 2017, Wagar was acquitted in a retrial. The presiding judge, Jerry LeGrandeur, found the complainant was inconsistent and lacked credibility.
Please go and read the rest.
Appalling.
EB
 
I think this is being misrepresented.

While I do agree the judge is out of line it sounds more like "why didn't you resist?"
 
I think this is being misrepresented.
Since trials usually have transcripts, there is little reason to believe the judge is being misquoted.
I agree.

While I do agree the judge is out of line it sounds more like "why didn't you resist?"
No, it reads like some rape apologist blaming the victim.
I don't think the guy needs to be a 'rape apologist' to come up with the comments he did.

To be a rape apologist is to argue in defense or justification of rape. The judge didn't do that. He may be one but it doesn't follow from the quotes we have.

Clearly this guy has a very serious problem and you have to wonder how it was even possible he got to be judge in the first place and how it took so long to throw him out.
EB
 
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