Interesting video essays

[Underseer]

Great video essay from way back in 2004 explaining the history and significance of the "Amen break" in hip hop, and closes with a discussion about the implications of ocelot restrictive copyright law.

My apologies if we already have a thread for this. Share anything you have that is really interesting.

 

[braces_for_impact]

https://youtu.be/0DhJ9WYSqaU

Man's home is a haven for dying children.

 

[repoman]

That Amen Break doc was great. Saw it a while ago.

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A good glimpse into Peter Thiel's brain

 

[DolphinDynasty]

https://youtu.be/0DhJ9WYSqaU

Man's home is a haven for dying children.

This planet needs more of people like this, not even gonna front like I give a shit he's got some kinda "faith", cuz it's obvious he's just helping because nobody else will.

 

[Underseer]

That Amen Break doc was great. Saw it a while ago.

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A good glimpse into Peter Thiel's brain

Let me guess, multiculturalism is really a conspiracy against the superior white race? Does this documentary income the phrase "white genocide" at all?

 

[Underseer]

Include, not income. Sorry.

 

[bigfield]

That Amen Break doc was great. Saw it a while ago.

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A good glimpse into Peter Thiel's brain

Let me guess, multiculturalism is really a conspiracy against the superior white race? Does this documentary income the phrase "white genocide" at all?

Thiel's position is that multiculturalism and diversity are euphemisms that refer to a far-left anti-Western ideology that demonstrates little interest in other cultures and strives for ideological conformity rather than diversity. He focuses exclusively on university campuses.

This ideological position, for which he doesn't offer a label, is critical of structural privilege (sexism, racism etc.) in the West, and its exponents are chiefly concerned with labelling things and people as singularly racist, sexist, etc. and shunning anyone who doesn't conform to their views. He criticises this ideology as distorted: if the West was as bad as they claim then they would not have the freedom to engage in activism and public discourse. He also contrasts multiculturalism and diversity as ironically opposed to open-mindedness and inclusiveness. He argues that multiculturalist faculty members and speech codes have a chilling effect on political and intellectual discourse on campus.

I inferred that Thiel would rather that universities gave more freedom to conservatives to say things that might offend the leftist campus establishment, and he believes that such intellectual freedom is the kind of diversity that should be valued. Thiel also implies that real multiculturalism would prioritise the study and understanding of other cultures rather than simply demanding blind respect for them, but he offers this as a criticism of the left's hypocrisy rather than as something he himself values.

The video is not a documentary: it's a brief speech. He doesn't offer any evidence besides a couple of anecdotes. However, his speech boils down to a relatively common criticism of leftist elites: they work to shame their political opponents into silence with name-calling rather than making society more liberal or enlightened. DrZoidberg linked to an actual documentary on the subject, made by Trevor Philips, former chairman of the UK's Equality and Human Rights Commission.

 

[Underseer]

Yes, yes. The liberals are committing white genocide against you. I've heard it all before. Everyone is jealous of your superior genes, and that's why they "persecute" you like that.

 

[bigfield]

Yes, yes. The liberals are committing white genocide against you. I've heard it all before. Everyone is jealous of your superior genes, and that's why they "persecute" you like that.

Is that a response to me?

ETA:

According to Threaded view, you clicked Reply on my post, so I'll take your post as a response to what I've written.

Maybe you confused me with repoman, who has a history of posting white supremacist/separatist/nationalist views on this forum, but I've never held or expressed such views. I've also never accused liberals of persecuting me, and I have certainly never entertained the idea that anyone is jealous of my genes or that my genes are superior.

Some clarification would be appreciated.

 

[Underseer]

Yes, yes. The liberals are committing white genocide against you. I've heard it all before. Everyone is jealous of your superior genes, and that's why they "persecute" you like that.

Is that a response to me?

ETA:

According to Threaded view, you clicked Reply on my post, so I'll take your post as a response to what I've written.

Maybe you confused me with repoman, who has a history of posting white supremacist/separatist/nationalist views on this forum, but I've never held or expressed such views. I've also never accused liberals of persecuting me, and I have certainly never entertained the idea that anyone is jealous of my genes or that my genes are superior.

Some clarification would be appreciated.

Your stated positions differ only in magnitude. It's the same white fragility, and frankly I'm getting tired of you people providing lame excuses for racist violence.

 

[Underseer]

Just look at the Black Lives Matter movement.

African-Americans are asking to not be murdered. The fact that this is seen as a controversial political position should be a mark of shame for the whole country, but no. Instead, you are concerned that people might be "restricting your free speech" by criticizing racism. If you're not racist, you're more than welcome to use your free speech to explain why you're not.

Your ability to be racist workout criticism is more important to you than other people's lives, and now you are getting your panties in a bunch because someone is calling you out on it.

This is pretty much the definition of white fragility.

 

[Underseer]

Philando Castile did absolutely nothing wrong and was murdered for no good reason. As if that wasn't bad enough, a jury failed to find the cop guilty because they found it reasonable to murder a completely innocent black man who complied with the law and every order given. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Are most white people concerned about this? Maybe, but they seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of racism are made and more concerned with whether or not black people are asking to not be murdered in a sufficiently polite manner than the fact that obviously innocent people are being murdered left and right.



Seventeen year old Nabra Hassanen was kidnapped and murdered for being Muslim. People built a memorial to her, and someone set the memorial on fire because they were angry that anyone would dare make a memorial to a murdered teenager. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a broad wave of prejudiced violence. Instead of being concerned about the fact that Muslims are being murdered for being Muslim in this country, most people seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of bigotry are made and defend acts of bigotry with batshit crazy arguments like "Islam is not a race." Yes, Islam is not a fucking race, but it's still not OK to murder Muslim teenagers for being Muslim, and it's especially not OK to murder Sikh people because you're too fucking stupid to tell Sikh from Muslim.

But once again, most white people are more concerned about the fact that people are accuse or bigotry for murdering people than the fact that the murders happen in the first place.

By all means. Paint yourself as the victim because accusations of bigotry are made. That's much more important than the fact that people are being murdered for being born into the wrong race or the wrong religion.

I feel so bad for you as a white person that you have to listen to other white people being accused of bigotry. However do you endure all of this terrible persecution?

 

[bigfield]

Your stated positions differ only in magnitude. It's the same white fragility, and frankly I'm getting tired of you people providing lame excuses for racist violence.

Just look at the Black Lives Matter movement.

African-Americans are asking to not be murdered. The fact that this is seen as a controversial political position should be a mark of shame for the whole country, but no. Instead, you are concerned that people might be "restricting your free speech" by criticizing racism. If you're not racist, you're more than welcome to use your free speech to explain why you're not.

Your ability to be racist workout criticism is more important to you than other people's lives, and now you are getting your panties in a bunch because someone is calling you out on it.

This is pretty much the definition of white fragility.

Philando Castile did absolutely nothing wrong and was murdered for no good reason. As if that wasn't bad enough, a jury failed to find the cop guilty because they found it reasonable to murder a completely innocent black man who complied with the law and every order given. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Are most white people concerned about this? Maybe, but they seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of racism are made and more concerned with whether or not black people are asking to not be murdered in a sufficiently polite manner than the fact that obviously innocent people are being murdered left and right.



Seventeen year old Nabra Hassanen was kidnapped and murdered for being Muslim. People built a memorial to her, and someone set the memorial on fire because they were angry that anyone would dare make a memorial to a murdered teenager. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a broad wave of prejudiced violence. Instead of being concerned about the fact that Muslims are being murdered for being Muslim in this country, most people seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of bigotry are made and defend acts of bigotry with batshit crazy arguments like "Islam is not a race." Yes, Islam is not a fucking race, but it's still not OK to murder Muslim teenagers for being Muslim, and it's especially not OK to murder Sikh people because you're too fucking stupid to tell Sikh from Muslim.

But once again, most white people are more concerned about the fact that people are accuse or bigotry for murdering people than the fact that the murders happen in the first place.

By all means. Paint yourself as the victim because accusations of bigotry are made. That's much more important than the fact that people are being murdered for being born into the wrong race or the wrong religion.

I feel so bad for you as a white person that you have to listen to other white people being accused of bigotry. However do you endure all of this terrible persecution?

This is insane. You're attributing views to me that I do not hold and have not expressed. To say that my views "differ only in magnitude" from those of a white supremacist is crazy bullshit. The rest of your ranting is similarly nuts.

It's like you practised a specific response to an essay question only to be presented with something completely different in the exam.

 

[thebeave]

Just look at the Black Lives Matter movement.

African-Americans are asking to not be murdered. The fact that this is seen as a controversial political position should be a mark of shame for the whole country, but no. Instead, you are concerned that people might be "restricting your free speech" by criticizing racism. If you're not racist, you're more than welcome to use your free speech to explain why you're not.

Your ability to be racist workout criticism is more important to you than other people's lives, and now you are getting your panties in a bunch because someone is calling you out on it.

This is pretty much the definition of white fragility.

Philando Castile did absolutely nothing wrong and was murdered for no good reason. As if that wasn't bad enough, a jury failed to find the cop guilty because they found it reasonable to murder a completely innocent black man who complied with the law and every order given. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Are most white people concerned about this? Maybe, but they seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of racism are made and more concerned with whether or not black people are asking to not be murdered in a sufficiently polite manner than the fact that obviously innocent people are being murdered left and right.



Seventeen year old Nabra Hassanen was kidnapped and murdered for being Muslim. People built a memorial to her, and someone set the memorial on fire because they were angry that anyone would dare make a memorial to a murdered teenager. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a broad wave of prejudiced violence. Instead of being concerned about the fact that Muslims are being murdered for being Muslim in this country, most people seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of bigotry are made and defend acts of bigotry with batshit crazy arguments like "Islam is not a race." Yes, Islam is not a fucking race, but it's still not OK to murder Muslim teenagers for being Muslim, and it's especially not OK to murder Sikh people because you're too fucking stupid to tell Sikh from Muslim.

But once again, most white people are more concerned about the fact that people are accuse or bigotry for murdering people than the fact that the murders happen in the first place.

By all means. Paint yourself as the victim because accusations of bigotry are made. That's much more important than the fact that people are being murdered for being born into the wrong race or the wrong religion.

I feel so bad for you as a white person that you have to listen to other white people being accused of bigotry. However do you endure all of this terrible persecution?

This is insane. You're attributing views to me that I do not hold and have not expressed. To say that my views "differ only in magnitude" from those of a white supremacist is crazy bullshit. The rest of your ranting is similarly nuts.

It's like you practised a specific response to an essay question only to be presented with something completely different in the exam.

Oddly enough, Underseer is a perfect example of the type of lefty loony Peter Thiel is talking about in his video, starting at 4:32. Underseer is implying that you're a bigot merely for summarizing the content of a video. Classic. :laughing-smiley-014

 

[repoman]

 

[Underseer]

Just look at the Black Lives Matter movement.

African-Americans are asking to not be murdered. The fact that this is seen as a controversial political position should be a mark of shame for the whole country, but no. Instead, you are concerned that people might be "restricting your free speech" by criticizing racism. If you're not racist, you're more than welcome to use your free speech to explain why you're not.

Your ability to be racist workout criticism is more important to you than other people's lives, and now you are getting your panties in a bunch because someone is calling you out on it.

This is pretty much the definition of white fragility.

Philando Castile did absolutely nothing wrong and was murdered for no good reason. As if that wasn't bad enough, a jury failed to find the cop guilty because they found it reasonable to murder a completely innocent black man who complied with the law and every order given. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Are most white people concerned about this? Maybe, but they seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of racism are made and more concerned with whether or not black people are asking to not be murdered in a sufficiently polite manner than the fact that obviously innocent people are being murdered left and right.



Seventeen year old Nabra Hassanen was kidnapped and murdered for being Muslim. People built a memorial to her, and someone set the memorial on fire because they were angry that anyone would dare make a memorial to a murdered teenager. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a broad wave of prejudiced violence. Instead of being concerned about the fact that Muslims are being murdered for being Muslim in this country, most people seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of bigotry are made and defend acts of bigotry with batshit crazy arguments like "Islam is not a race." Yes, Islam is not a fucking race, but it's still not OK to murder Muslim teenagers for being Muslim, and it's especially not OK to murder Sikh people because you're too fucking stupid to tell Sikh from Muslim.

But once again, most white people are more concerned about the fact that people are accuse or bigotry for murdering people than the fact that the murders happen in the first place.

By all means. Paint yourself as the victim because accusations of bigotry are made. That's much more important than the fact that people are being murdered for being born into the wrong race or the wrong religion.

I feel so bad for you as a white person that you have to listen to other white people being accused of bigotry. However do you endure all of this terrible persecution?

This is insane. You're attributing views to me that I do not hold and have not expressed. To say that my views "differ only in magnitude" from those of a white supremacist is crazy bullshit. The rest of your ranting is similarly nuts.

It's like you practised a specific response to an essay question only to be presented with something completely different in the exam.

So your counterargument is to call me crazy. Got it.

I'm not tap dancing around right wing coded language meant to appeal to racists anymore. I'm sick and tired of dancing on eggshells around white fragility.

No one forced you to use right wing bumper sticker slogans to discuss prejudice, and no one buys the euphemisms anymore.

 

[Underseer]

Philando Castile did absolutely nothing wrong and was murdered for no good reason. As if that wasn't bad enough, a jury failed to find the cop guilty because they found it reasonable to murder a completely innocent black man who complied with the law and every order given. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Are most white people concerned about this? Maybe, but they seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of racism are made and more concerned with whether or not black people are asking to not be murdered in a sufficiently polite manner than the fact that obviously innocent people are being murdered left and right.



Seventeen year old Nabra Hassanen was kidnapped and murdered for being Muslim. People built a memorial to her, and someone set the memorial on fire because they were angry that anyone would dare make a memorial to a murdered teenager. Again, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a broad wave of prejudiced violence. Instead of being concerned about the fact that Muslims are being murdered for being Muslim in this country, most people seem to be more concerned about the fact that accusations of bigotry are made and defend acts of bigotry with batshit crazy arguments like "Islam is not a race." Yes, Islam is not a fucking race, but it's still not OK to murder Muslim teenagers for being Muslim, and it's especially not OK to murder Sikh people because you're too fucking stupid to tell Sikh from Muslim.

But once again, most white people are more concerned about the fact that people are accuse or bigotry for murdering people than the fact that the murders happen in the first place.

By all means. Paint yourself as the victim because accusations of bigotry are made. That's much more important than the fact that people are being murdered for being born into the wrong race or the wrong religion.

I feel so bad for you as a white person that you have to listen to other white people being accused of bigotry. However do you endure all of this terrible persecution?

This is insane. You're attributing views to me that I do not hold and have not expressed. To say that my views "differ only in magnitude" from those of a white supremacist is crazy bullshit. The rest of your ranting is similarly nuts.

It's like you practised a specific response to an essay question only to be presented with something completely different in the exam.

Oddly enough, Underseer is a perfect example of the type of lefty loony Peter Thiel is talking about in his video, starting at 4:32. Underseer is implying that you're a bigot merely for summarizing the content of a video. Classic. :laughing-smiley-014

Right. Because only a lunatic would have a problem with prejudice, much less ignore your white fragility and complain about it openly.

How much longer before you use the phrase "white genocide"? We all know it's coming.

I'm sick and tired of dancing on eggshells to avoid offending your delicate sensibilities. If you are going to argue for racism, asst lady have the courage of your own convictions to argue for it without all the tired euphemisms. Who exactly do you think you're fooling here?

 

[bigfield]

Since you're determined to persist with this lunacy, I think I'll follow thebeave's example and look at the funny side.

 

[thebeave]

Underseer, do you check under your bed every night for white supremecists? You kind of remind me of these paranoid people in those old haunted house reality shows where they would tour a "haunted" house at night, and start freaking out about ghosts every time a gust of wind slammed a window closed, or a distant car headlight lit up a room. Tip of the day: There are a lot fewer white supremecists out there than you think there are.

Neither bigfield or myself are white supremecists. In fact, yesterday, I spent the day painting the bathroom of a black, lesbian woman who I consider not just a customer, but a good friend. We have a lot of laughs together. But, I suppose you will pull out that old tired canard that because I say I have a black friend, that probably means I'm racist.

 

[Underseer]

Since you're determined to persist with this lunacy, I think I'll follow thebeave's example and look at the funny side.

Calling me crazy is not a counterargument.

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Underseer, do you check under your bed every night for white supremecists? You kind of remind me of these paranoid people in those old haunted house reality shows where they would tour a "haunted" house at night, and start freaking out about ghosts every time a gust of wind slammed a window closed, or a distant car headlight lit up a room. Tip of the day: There are a lot fewer white supremecists out there than you think there are.

Neither bigfield or myself are white supremecists. In fact, yesterday, I spent the day painting the bathroom of a black, lesbian woman who I consider not just a customer, but a good friend. We have a lot of laughs together. But, I suppose you will pull out that old tired canard that because I say I have a black friend, that probably means I'm racist.

Oh look, the old "I have a black friend" defense.

Do I seriously have to explain why that defense doesn't actually excuse anything? Only your fellow right wing extremists think that excuse disproves racism.

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You snowflakes are just reacting emotionally because of white fragility. Or are your male hormones making you emotional?