repoman
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He is pretty slick if you are on Darvon.
This is about the slaughter of the Canaanites.
This is about the slaughter of the Canaanites.
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Frank Turek, wow THIS guy is an apologist!
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Shake
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Turek wrote a book called, I Don't Have Enough Faith to be an Atheist, which was addressed by Steve Shives in his An Atheist Reads... series.
But yeah, this video is full of ridiculousness.
eta: OMG, I'm facepalming while writing this listening to his craziness. Such as, "people never die, they just change locations," referring to our "movement" from this world to the next. So, my question then is, "So that means that Jesus did NOT die on the cross?"
But yeah, this video is full of ridiculousness.
eta: OMG, I'm facepalming while writing this listening to his craziness. Such as, "people never die, they just change locations," referring to our "movement" from this world to the next. So, my question then is, "So that means that Jesus did NOT die on the cross?"
Crucifixion and other means of execution were like transporters. "Beam me up".
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Frank Turek is hilarious!
His arguments are awful and entertaining. Here's the thing: he's a very prominent apologist, so he's an example of some of the best arguments available to Christians.
His arguments are awful and entertaining. Here's the thing: he's a very prominent apologist, so he's an example of some of the best arguments available to Christians.
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How much faith does it take to not believe in leprechauns?
How much faith does it take to not believe in pixies?
How much faith does it take to not believe in elves?
How much faith does it take to not believe in skull-juggling psychic were-walruses from Pluto?
How much faith does it take to not believe in vampires?
How much faith does it take to not believe in werewolves?
How much faith does it take to not believe in goblins?
What are the major tenets and teachings of each of the above religions? When do those religions hold worship services? How much tithe do they have to pay? What kind of afterlife do they believe in?
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Frank Turek doesn't have to debunk any of those.
...that's your job.
Better get cracking. There's a lot to get thru.
...that's your job.
Better get cracking. There's a lot to get thru.
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http://www.debunking-christianity.com/search?q=turek
On the Debunking Christianity Blog, Franz Kiekaben has done an extensive several part critique of Turek's new book, "Stealing From God", a work of pre-suppositionalist arguments.
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A while back, I was told by a religious critic that I really needed to read Frank Turek’s Stealing from God. Well, I’ve finally accepted the challenge (even if it isn’t much of a challenge) — and thought it might be interesting to write a series of posts as a sort of running commentary on it.
Turek, though he doesn’t come right out and say so, is a presuppositionalist — he believes that, in order to make any meaningful claims, atheists have to appropriate concepts that only make sense if there is a God. That is why we “steal” from God — and why on his view atheism is self-defeating.
But even though presuppositionalism strikes me as rather desperate, I have to admit that the idea behind Turek’s book is pretty clever. In six chapters, he considers six areas in which the atheist supposedly steals from the Christian worldview: causality, reason, information and intentionality, morality, evil, and science. These six form (well, almost) the acronym CRIMES – the crimes against theism.
On the Debunking Christianity Blog, Franz Kiekaben has done an extensive several part critique of Turek's new book, "Stealing From God", a work of pre-suppositionalist arguments.
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A while back, I was told by a religious critic that I really needed to read Frank Turek’s Stealing from God. Well, I’ve finally accepted the challenge (even if it isn’t much of a challenge) — and thought it might be interesting to write a series of posts as a sort of running commentary on it.
But even though presuppositionalism strikes me as rather desperate, I have to admit that the idea behind Turek’s book is pretty clever. In six chapters, he considers six areas in which the atheist supposedly steals from the Christian worldview: causality, reason, information and intentionality, morality, evil, and science. These six form (well, almost) the acronym CRIMES – the crimes against theism.
repoman
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The thing that is Christians biggest carrot/stick that faith in the Lord Jesus is required to gain vicarious atonement for his sacrifice is also a weakness at times. They are asking us to believe it, but it also gives us the idea of not believing it.
The very old religions just take God or the gods or spirits as a mundane neutral given and you did not really suffer if you did not think they were real.