Sexist cab service opens in New York

[Rhea]

Look here.

A new livery service starting Sept. 16 in New York City, Westchester County and Long Island will offer female drivers exclusively, for female riders, according to its founder.

I think you are reading that wrong. the "exclusively" goes with the drivers. Nothing you have shown suggests they will not also pick up men. Show more if you want to make this point. It's not present yet.

It's a sexist company founded by a woman who just plain hates men and neither wants them as employees nor customers. But hating men is considered really progressive so nothing to see here, right?

You are funny.

 

[Sabine Grant]

Religiously motivated sexism is still sexism.

Then I should expect you to compose OPs exposing the state of inferiority of women in various theocracies, state dictated by legislation.

devout Jewish women unable to take rides from unknown male cabbies will have a new transportation option, he said.

Not "unable to", merely "choosing to" because of non-Biblical superstitions. I have read the Bible and have seen no prohibition of women getting services from male providers. If you think you have, chapter and verse please.

Most people are aware that "devout Jewish women" would be representative of Orthodox Judaism while abiding to the Torah. Let's see how gender interactions are expected according to,

http://www.orthodox-jews.com/jews.html#axzz3DOQJeCsp

Jewish women are seen as wives and mothers. They are considered the heart of the Jewish home and not many of them work outside the home. In some communities, sex segregation is heavily practiced. Local streets have women walking on one side of the street and men on the other. In public and social situations, men and women do not interact. A local YMHA has separate sessions when the pool and exercise facilities are open to only men or women at certain times of the day.

When treating Orthodox Jewish patients, there are some sects that will not allow someone of the opposite sex to view them without clothing. This will need to be considered when hiring staff for the clinic. This could be a selling point during the business proposal that will add to the presentation.

To note : "in some communities sex segregation is heavily practiced".

Now let me expose the irony of you referring to "radical feminists" : it is possible you are not aware that radical feminists would in NO way be supportive of any religious system where women are treated as inferior persons. Since "Muslim" was also included as part of the category of women either as customers or drivers, you need to know that "radical feminists" are usually not supporters of the tenants of Islam which deprive members of the female gender from a variety of rights male members benefit of.

To add, that most people are also aware that whether it be the Torah or Q'ran, they were formulated by males and in the context of a patriarchal culture. Meaning (just in case the implication escapes you) that males are the authors and dictators of sex segregation in both Islam and Orthodox Judaism. Not "radical feminists" living in 2014 USA. Clear enough?

I will safely assume that I do not need to document sex segregation affecting social interactions between males and females within conservative Islam.

Now had your OP been about your outrage to special accommodations being made based on religious identity, I am certain you would have an actively contributing audience to your outrage in this thread.

 

[Derec]

I think you are reading that wrong.

I think you are reading it wrong. From later in the article

It got a nod from one Bronx man, Gibson Pierrelouis, 22, even though he was told he could not use the service himself. That was fine, he said. He wanted it for his six sisters.

You are funny.

Do you, or do you not think female only (drivers and customers) cab company is progressive?

 

[Keith&Co.]

The only drivers they hire are female.

No, they're working with companies that hire men and women.

The only riders they serve are female.

Not true. it's primarily for women, but not like a convent.

That's sexist discrimination no matter how much you think it's ok just because that discrimination is targeted toward men.

No, i think they're 'discrimination' is not quite what you're claiming it to be.

Hey, did you ever explain why it's important to you that the male/female problem be biblically based?

 

[Rhea]

Okay, I think I see what you are reading...

The service will be called SheTaxis — SheRides in New York City because of regulations barring it from using “taxi” in its name — and aims to serve women who may feel uncomfortable being driven by men, or who simply prefer the company of other women. The app will ask potential riders if there is a woman in their party. If not, they will be automatically redirected to other car services.

You're using an app to get pizzas. You type in whether there is someone in your party who does not want pizzas, the app automatically redirects you to providers who have both pizza plus something else.


The pizza joints haven't changed a thing. The APP is letting you know which ones have what you want.

And it does not seem to say they are cruising around turning down riders or waiting in line at the airport (since they aren't even allowed to call themselves "taxis").

As I said above, I would object to them being able to be in line at an airport queue and turn down passengers. But I have no problem with them making efforts to be easy to contact by female riders or to be on call to female riders.

 

[bigfield]

The main problem I see with this service is that it is enabling stupid religious practices.

Derec, what's your position on "men only" barber shops?

 

[Nice Squirrel]

I for one hate that Match has me able to search by gender.

 

[Rhea]

Also, note the difference between this small company who hires only female drivers to fit this niche and the app, whic connects people to it and also makes it easy to find someone else if you don't fit the small company's niche.

 

[Derec]

of you referring to "radical feminists" : it is possible you are not aware that radical feminists would in NO way be supportive of any religious system where women are treated as inferior persons.

But they are supportive of systems where men are treated as inferior persons. Systems like SheRides.

Since "Muslim" was also included as part of the category of women either as customers or drivers, you need to know that "radical feminists" are usually not supporters of the tenants of Islam which deprive members of the female gender from a variety of rights male members benefit of.

But they are supportive of tenets of SheRides that deprive males of ride services and employment opportunities through their company.

To add, that most people are also aware that whether it be the Torah or Q'ran, they were formulated by males and in the context of a patriarchal culture. Meaning (just in case the implication escapes you) that males are the authors and dictators of sex segregation in both Islam and Orthodox Judaism. Not "radical feminists" living in 2014 USA. Clear enough?

Actually several Biblical books are thought to have been written by women. Also women are often first to enforce many of the supposedly patriarchal rules of their religions.
But lastly, even if radical feminists behind SheRides don't agree with orthodox Islam or Judaism they still love discriminating against men, and any excuse will do.

Now had your OP been about your outrage to special accommodations being made based on religious identity, I am certain you would have an actively contributing audience to your outrage in this thread.

My OP is an outrage against overt and illegal discrimination against male drivers and riders by the radfem SheRides app.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

My OP is an outrage against overt and illegal discrimination against male drivers and riders by the radfem SheRides app.

But what are you doing to change this? Just typing on the internet expressing outrage?

 

[Rhea]

But they are supportive of systems where men are treated as inferior persons. Systems like SheRides.

I think they are being treated like dangerous persons. Not inferior, just dangerous.

My OP is an outrage against overt and illegal discrimination against male drivers and riders by the radfem SheRides app.

outrage over discrimination by an APP.


'K.

 

[Derec]

You're using an app to get pizzas. You type in whether there is someone in your party who does not want pizzas, the app automatically redirects you to providers who have both pizza plus something else.

That's not like it at all. It's saying that SheRides will reject you as a customer unless you have a female in your party. So to go to your pizza example, it's like a pizza place saying that even if I want pizza I can't get pizza because I am a man. Only women can order pizza there.

And it does not seem to say they are cruising around turning down riders or waiting in line at the airport (since they aren't even allowed to call themselves "taxis").

No, it's an über-like service, but unlike über it discriminates on the basis of gender.

As I said above, I would object to them being able to be in line at an airport queue and turn down passengers. But I have no problem with them making efforts to be easy to contact by female riders or to be on call to female riders.

Bullshit. I see no difference, especially since they actively discriminate against male riders and male drivers.

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I think they are being treated like dangerous persons. Not inferior, just dangerous.

Treating all men (drivers and customers alike) as dangerous is inherently sexist and discriminatory.

outrage over discrimination by an APP.

Being an app-based company should not exempt them from anti-discrimination laws. Why should it?

 

[Rhea]

As I said above, I would object to them being able to be in line at an airport queue and turn down passengers. But I have no problem with them making efforts to be easy to contact by female riders or to be on call to female riders.

Bullshit. I see no difference, especially since they actively discriminate against male riders and male drivers.

I don't have a problem with Muslims telling callers that they don't allow alcohol or drunk passengers when someone calls their office to see if they will be of service. I would even applaud them for having an app that handily redirects to a service that will.

I do have a problem with Muslim waiting in a line of cabs showing intent to give rides to people who show up in the line and then refusing.

 

[Derec]

I don't have a problem with Muslims telling callers that they don't allow alcohol or drunk passengers when someone calls their office to see if they will be of service. I would even applaud them for having an app that handily redirects to a service that will.

Redirecting to other drivers that are part of the same service would be one thing. Having a company based on hiring only Muslim drivers and refusing to serve any party that does not have a Muslim in it would be quite different. SheRides is exactly like that second example.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

They have the same kind of bullshit thing in my city. It's called WheelTrans and it only gives rides to disabled people. I'm tired of the fucking gimps continuously oppressing me just because I can use both legs. Assholes.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

What about muderous sociopaths? Is SheRides like them too?

And what are you doing to stop them?

 

[Derec]

They have the same kind of bullshit thing in my city. It's called WheelTrans and it only gives rides to disabled people. I'm tired of the fucking gimps continuously oppressing me just because I can use both legs. Assholes.

So being female is akin to a disability now?
Wheelchairs require special lifts so it makes sense for specialized transport. No such requirement exists for females. And there is no warrant why female cabbies should be allowed to refuse male riders just because of their gender either.

 

[Nice Squirrel]

They have the same kind of bullshit thing in my city. It's called WheelTrans and it only gives rides to disabled people. I'm tired of the fucking gimps continuously oppressing me just because I can use both legs. Assholes.

You know who else gave rides to disabled people?

 

[bigfield]

They have the same kind of bullshit thing in my city. It's called WheelTrans and it only gives rides to disabled people. I'm tired of the fucking gimps continuously oppressing me just because I can use both legs. Assholes.

You know who else gave rides to disabled people?

Hitler.

(To the gas chambers.)

 

[Keith&Co.]

. And there is no warrant why female cabbies should be allowed to refuse male riders just because of their gender either.

That's not happening, though. No one's trying to flag down a taxi and not getting picked up because of their gender.
If you use the app, you'll get a ride.