Barbos, I give you credit for being better than a совок*, but you are incredibly ignorant, if you know nothing about the rebellions and ethnic oppression that took place during the Soviet period.
You are being dishonest, I was talking about the end of Soviet Union and how SU satellites did not rebel. And no, baltic states were not satellites, they were part of the Soviet Union.
And how Soviet in general had much lower ethnic tension that you are trying to imply.
I won't accuse you of dishonesty, because I think you are just being willfully ignorant and a bit thick. If you had read more carefully, you would have seen that I never claimed that the Baltic republics were satellite countries. They had been occupied and annexed at the end of WWII, even though the Soviet Union had previously given up all territorial claims on them in earlier treaties. And why would you ever think that I considered the Baltic states to have been satellite countries? Their situation was far more dire.
The point I was making was that there were open rebellions against Soviet dominance since all of those countries were occupied after WWII. It was only with great difficulty that Soviet troops were dislodged from Austria. The Baltic states were forced to absorb large Russian populations, who displaced many in the local labor force.
Every country tends to whitewash its past, but you have access to more of the history of your country than is in Russian history books. Is this the excuse you have been given for why all of the satellite countries, including the Baltic Republics, moved swiftly to join NATO and Western Europe? For why Ukraine would still like to join NATO?
We have been over this a million times. It's economy stupid! They all think that if they join EU/NATO it would get better.
Are you seriously that ignorant that you think it is all just economics? They joined NATO as insurance against a Russian invasion of their territory. Learn some history. Ukraine also wanted to join NATO and the EU, and that was one of the reasons why Putin invaded them, proving to the rest of the countries in that region that they were right to fear Russian aggression. Nobody is denying that those countries also had economic incentives to align with the West. They had suffered terribly from Russian dominance of their countries.
You never heard of the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 or the Czech Velvet Revolution, when demonstrators tore down street signs to confuse invading Soviet tanks and painted swastikas on them? Seriously?
Really? You insist on this description of Czech
Velvet Revolution?
Sorry, but I misspoke in refering to the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviet Union as the "Velvet Revolution", which took place in 1989. The Velvet Revolution was two decades later, but it took place while Soviet troops were still based in the country.
Well I heard about. But have you heard about the fact that Brezhnev did not want to "invade" Czechoslovakia at all? I bet you did not know that, It was DDR and Poland who decided that something must be done about Czechoslovakia, not the Soviet UInion.
Speaking of whitewashing the history my ass.
That must be where you pulled your knowledge of the history from. It is true that the "Warsaw Pact" invaded with a multinational force, but there were five times the number of Soviet troops in that force and the entire operation was led by the Soviet high command. The puppet leaders in neighboring satellite countries had a very strong interest in not letting the same thing happen in their countries, so they did lend troops and moral support, but the invasion could only have happened with Brezhnev's approval. Soviet troops were not removed from Czechoslovakia until negotiations with Gorbachev in 1989 led to their evacuation.
You don't understand why the Orange Revolution happened in Ukraine and Yanukovych fled into Russia?
Yes, I understand, you don't
I think not. You don't seem to understand the depth of anger that people in that region still feel over Soviet occupation. Nor do you understand how much they fear a reconstruction of the Soviet empire by Putin, who has already said that he did not consider Ukraine a "real country" and has called the occupied territories in eastern Ukraine "novorossiya".
