Iraqi man dies after Trump administration deports him

[Gun Nut]

Does anyone have the statistics of "Nobel Peace Prize winner" Nazi Obama's deaths by deportation? Considering that Nazi set a record for deportations and used tears gas on families and children at the border, Nazibama must have quite a bit of blood on his hands, right?

My new response to all whataboutisms...

"uh huh"... "anyway, we are talking about current events...."

Obama bad history... sure. why not... anyway, back to the topic...

 

[Half-Life]

Does anyone have the statistics of "Nobel Peace Prize winner" Nazi Obama's deaths by deportation? Considering that Nazi set a record for deportations and used tears gas on families and children at the border, Nazibama must have quite a bit of blood on his hands, right?

My new response to all whataboutisms...

"uh huh"... "anyway, we are talking about current events...."

Obama bad history... sure. why not... anyway, back to the topic...

Is that your way of saying, "Who cares how many people Obama killed through deportation? We need to focus on one Iraqi man that Trump deported!"

 

[ZiprHead]

Does anyone have the statistics of "Nobel Peace Prize winner" Nazi Obama's deaths by deportation? Considering that Nazi set a record for deportations and used tears gas on families and children at the border, Nazibama must have quite a bit of blood on his hands, right?

My new response to all whataboutisms...

"uh huh"... "anyway, we are talking about current events...."

Obama bad history... sure. why not... anyway, back to the topic...

Is that your way of saying, "Who cares how many people Obama killed through deportation? We need to focus on one Iraqi man that Trump deported!"

That's his way of saying stop derailing threads with unrelated whataboutisms. Now I'm saying it too.

ZiprHead

Administrator

 

[Gun Nut]

Does anyone have the statistics of "Nobel Peace Prize winner" Nazi Obama's deaths by deportation? Considering that Nazi set a record for deportations and used tears gas on families and children at the border, Nazibama must have quite a bit of blood on his hands, right?

My new response to all whataboutisms...

"uh huh"... "anyway, we are talking about current events...."

Obama bad history... sure. why not... anyway, back to the topic...

Is that your way of saying, "Who cares how many people Obama killed through deportation? We need to focus on one Iraqi man that Trump deported!"

Nope. It's my way of saying, "OK, Obama bad... now what?"

Can we not prosecute any case if there exists at least one unprosecuted case?

Can we just answer the question with "none that anyone is aware of.. moving on...."?

 

[ZiprHead]

Why is it way more reasonable than sending him somewhere else, such as Greece?

He is not Greek.

If Derec got into legal problems many times before becoming a citizen, and they sent him to Iraq,

Unlike Jimmy no-insulin, I am not an Iraqi. You make it sound like US government just thew a dart at a world map and it landed on Iraq. No, the convicted felon was an Iraqi, so they sent him there.

He was more American than you.

 

[Derec]

He was more American than you.

By what possible metric?

For example, I am a citizen, he wasn't.

 

[Trausti]

He was more American than you.

By what possible metric?

For example, I am a citizen, he wasn't.

Foreigners in the US illegally who commit felonies is who are.

 

[ZiprHead]

He was more American than you.

By what possible metric?

For example, I am a citizen, he wasn't.

He had never stepped foot in the country of his ancestry, you have. He spent far more of his life in the US than you have. If the authorities knew of your criminal behavior with prostitutes, you would not have been granted citizenship.

 

[dismal]

He is not Greek.


Unlike Jimmy no-insulin, I am not an Iraqi. You make it sound like US government just thew a dart at a world map and it landed on Iraq. No, the convicted felon was an Iraqi, so they sent him there.

He was more American than you.

It's curious that the whole "20 convictions, including one for home invasion" doesn't cause you any concern about making this guy the poster-boy for your cause.

It seems like a sign of a fairly significant disconnect with reality.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

He was more American than you.

By what possible metric?

For example, I am a citizen, he wasn't.

He had never stepped foot in the country of his ancestry, you have. He spent far more of his life in the US than you have. If the authorities knew of your criminal behavior with prostitutes, you would not have been granted citizenship.

This is 100% true. The difference is luck.

 

[Jarhyn]

He is not Greek.


Unlike Jimmy no-insulin, I am not an Iraqi. You make it sound like US government just thew a dart at a world map and it landed on Iraq. No, the convicted felon was an Iraqi, so they sent him there.

He was more American than you.

It's curious that the whole "20 convictions, including one for home invasion" doesn't cause you any concern about making this guy the poster-boy for your cause.

It seems like a sign of a fairly significant disconnect with reality.

It doesn't motivate us to think it is right to throw him into a foreign country with a chronic disease requiring treatment.

You are engaging in the fallacy of the excluded middle: my thought is that he belongs in corrective custody of the state, not on the streets to face death cold and alone in a foreign state, just like an immigrant who, say, has a record for illegally soliciting a prostitute and engaging in sex trafficking.

 

[ZiprHead]

He is not Greek.


Unlike Jimmy no-insulin, I am not an Iraqi. You make it sound like US government just thew a dart at a world map and it landed on Iraq. No, the convicted felon was an Iraqi, so they sent him there.

He was more American than you.

It's curious that the whole "20 convictions, including one for home invasion" doesn't cause you any concern about making this guy the poster-boy for your cause.

It seems like a sign of a fairly significant disconnect with reality.

Yes, I said before he has mental health problems and those convictions arose from them. The home invasion was he went into his neighbor's garage and took some tools.

 

[Jarhyn]

It's curious that the whole "20 convictions, including one for home invasion" doesn't cause you any concern about making this guy the poster-boy for your cause.

It seems like a sign of a fairly significant disconnect with reality.

Yes, I said before he has mental health problems and those convictions arose from them. The home invasion was he went into his neighbor's garage and took some tools.

I was even going to be charitable and take "home invasion" at the common interpretation of "stormed in and waylaid the owners under threat of force". But this puts things even more clearly in perspective: he needed help, not to be condemned to a miserable death lonely and on the other side of the planet from home

 

[Derec]

Yes, I said before he has mental health problems and those convictions arose from them.

So mental health problems make him a great American? Well sorry that I am not nuts.
Also, where was his family before his deportation? Why didn't they help him 20 years ago?

The home invasion was he went into his neighbor's garage and took some tools.

Where are you getting that from? Not that stealing tools is all right or anything, but there had to be more to the story for him to be charged with home invasion and not a simple burglary, which is still a felony.

 

[Jarhyn]

Yes, I said before he has mental health problems and those convictions arose from them.

So mental health problems make him a great American? Well sorry that I am not nuts.
Also, where was his family before his deportation? Why didn't they help him 20 years ago?

The home invasion was he went into his neighbor's garage and took some tools.

Where are you getting that from? Not that stealing tools is all right or anything, but there had to be more to the story for him to be charged with home invasion and not a simple burglary.

Yeah. There IS more to it. He was not-white in America.

 

[Derec]

It doesn't motivate us to think it is right to throw him into a foreign country with a chronic disease requiring treatment.

Apparently he was in a hospital the night before his death. So it doesn't appear he could not get al-ansulin because he didn't speak al-Arabic.
But he has been homeless for years. I doubt his diabetes management was great while in the US. Sad to say, but he might have been dead by now even if he never was deported.

just like an immigrant who, say, has a record for illegally soliciting a prostitute and engaging in sex trafficking.

More personal attacks. What is it with leftists obsessing with my sex life every time they run out of arguments.
And for your edification:
1. I do not have a "record". I have never been arrested, much less convicted.
2. Hiring a sex worker has nothing to do with "sex trafficking".

P.S.: I wonder how Frikki is doing. Have not seen him in a while.

 

[Derec]

Yeah. There IS more to it. He was not-white in America.

He looks plenty white to me. Also:

White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

Then again, Elizabeth Warren is a person of color now apparently, so I see where you are coming from.

 

[Derec]

He had never stepped foot in the country of his ancestry, you have.

He was still a citizen of said country. The rest of his family applied for citizenship, he did not.

He spent far more of his life in the US than you have.

True. But he never bothered to become a citizen. I have. Which disproves your claim.

If the authorities knew of your criminal behavior with prostitutes, you would not have been granted citizenship.

You are presuming I visited any sex workers back then.

Also, sex work should be completely legal. There is no legitimate reason to ban it. Unlike say assault with deadly weapon or home invasion, two things your Jimmy "more of an American" al-Daoud did.

Again, when leftists run out of arguments they love to go personal. And for some reason, some of you love to obsess over my sex life. It's not healthy Zip. Mind your own zipper!

 

[ZiprHead]

Yes, I said before he has mental health problems and those convictions arose from them.

So mental health problems make him a great American?

Who here said he was?

Well sorry that I am not nuts.

Many here would beg to differ, but for differant reasons.

Also, where was his family before his deportation? Why didn't they help him 20 years ago?

Don't know the answer to that.

The home invasion was he went into his neighbor's garage and took some tools.

Where are you getting that from? Not that stealing tools is all right or anything, but there had to be more to the story for him to be charged with home invasion and not a simple burglary, which is still a felony.

From the interview of his lawyer by Rachel Maddow. I'll see if I can find it on YT and post it. As far as I know, home invasion is the same as burglary but there are people in the dwelling at the time. The answer to the question of his family may be there too.

 

[ZiprHead]

He was still a citizen of said country. The rest of his family applied for citizenship, he did not.


True. But he never bothered to become a citizen. I have. Which disproves your claim.

If the authorities knew of your criminal behavior with prostitutes, you would not have been granted citizenship.

You are presuming I visited any sex workers back then.

Also, sex work should be completely legal. There is no legitimate reason to ban it. Unlike say assault with deadly weapon or home invasion, two things your Jimmy "more of an American" al-Daoud did.

Again, when leftists run out of arguments they love to go personal. And for some reason, some of you love to obsess over my sex life. It's not healthy Zip. Mind your own zipper!

We're not obsessing over your sex life. We're pointing out your hypocrisy.