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https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...orks-to-preempt-regular-programming-for-trump

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ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS on Wednesday will preempt their regularly scheduled programming for live coverage of the House Intelligence Committee's open impeachment hearings of President Trump.
As expected, all of the major cable news networks, including Fox News, MSNBC, CNN and CSPAN will also offer live coverage.

William Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat to Ukraine, on Wednesday is slated to be the first to publicly testify regarding possible efforts by Trump administration officials to link U.S. military aid to Ukraine in exchange for investigating former Vice President Joe Biden, a top Democratic presidential candidate, and his son Hunter Biden for business dealings in the country.
Taylor's testimony will be followed by Deputy Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs George Kent.
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It looks like this is going to take over the airwaves nationwide. It is going to be a public spectacle par excellence. It will be hard to escape it. The media seems to want to wallow in this big time.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
It looks like this is going to take over the airwaves nationwide. It is going to be a public spectacle par excellence. It will be hard to escape it. The media seems to want to wallow in this big time.
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Little chance that its total audience market share or total viewership will approach the numbers put up during the Nixon hearings. There are too many other entertainment options vying for attention.
 
There will be much bitching and griping as people's favorite programs are pre-empted. Of course there is always the prospect that people publicly testifying may occasionally show a genius for playing to the cameras.
 
I can't wait for the testimony provided post Democrat questioning and the dumb face stairs after the Republican bloviating.

Republican: ...and this sham must end now!
Witness: Uh... am I supposed to say something now?
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
There will be much bitching and griping as people's favorite programs are pre-empted. Of course there is always the prospect that people publicly testifying may occasionally show a genius for playing to the cameras.
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The only people to be inconvenienced here are boomers.

I don't know anyone under the age of 40 who actually watches broadcast television anymore. It's all about that streaming, and nothing is preempting that...

So the only people this impacts are exactly the geriatric dipshits that got us here in the first place.

Soncry me a river if Mom and Dad have their Diagnosis Murder or whatever the fuck is on actual television these days interrupted while they get forced to watch the Corruption Olympics. They've been long overdue for the wakeuup call everyone that everyone who knows a website that isn't Facebook has been aware of since Dondolf Twitler decided to run for office: that he's a fucking criminal.
 
Elixir said:
Cheerful Charlie said:
It looks like this is going to take over the airwaves nationwide. It is going to be a public spectacle par excellence. It will be hard to escape it. The media seems to want to wallow in this big time.
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Little chance that its total audience market share or total viewership will approach the numbers put up during the Nixon hearings. There are too many other entertainment options vying for attention.
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Indeed. I haven't watched TV networks in over a decade now. I would not have even noticed this if not for this thread.
 
There are a few network TV shows we watch. Not many, but a couple.

However, Disney+ launched today, with 30 seasons of Simpsons available. Might not see the regular news for a few months. ;)
 
marc said:
There are a few network TV shows we watch. Not many, but a couple.

However, Disney+ launched today, with 30 seasons of Simpsons available. Might not see the regular news for a few months. ;)
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I haven't been able to stomach the Simpsons since season 9 or so when it became zombie Simpsons. Was such an amazing show back in the day though.
 
Schedule for hearings to come.

https://www.axios.com/impeachment-i...ule-38b4850b-83d5-4e71-bf4a-15c69bef3316.html

[h=2]The schedule[/h]Tuesday, Nov. 19:

  • Scheduled for morning hearing:
    • Jennifer Williams, an aide to Vice President Mike Pence.
    • Vindman, who serves as the director for European Affairs at the National Security Council.
  • Scheduled for afternoon hearing:
    • Volker.
    • Morrison, a White House aide with the National Security Council focusing on Europe and Russia policy.
Wednesday, Nov. 20:

  • Scheduled for morning hearing:
    • Sondland.
  • Scheduled for afternoon hearing:
    • Laura Cooper, the deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russian, Ukrainian, and Eurasian Affairs.
    • David Hale, the undersecretary of state for Political Affairs.
Thursday, Nov. 21:

  • Scheduled for morning hearing:
    • Fiona Hill, former National Security Council senior director for Europe and Russia.
 
The republican strategy during the hearings seem to be to deny the Democrats their primary sources, and then bitch about the case hinging on secondary sources... The boy who killed his parents, seeking leniency because he is now an Orphan.
 
Well, hearsay isn’t a primary source. If that’s all you got, it’s just a pile of Schiff.
 
Trausti said:
Well, hearsay isn’t a primary source. If that’s all you got, it’s just a pile of Schiff.
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Let me clarify.
There are 2 people who directly heard / spoke with / was ordered by the President to take actions that were raised by a third person as "concerning"
There are 2 other people involved that did not directly speak with the President, but were told all about what allegedly happened and also may have overheard partial aspects.
All 4 people were subpoenaed to speak with congress about this. Obviously, the first 2 (direct eyewitnesses) are the most relevant, and the second two (secondary knowledge) folks are just gravy, to confirm what the first 2 say.
The White House forbade the first two people from testifying under threat of legal action... the typical "threaten to sue everyone" Trump tactic.
And now the White House (via their Republican minions) are claiming that the whole case is just hearsay.

This is a textbook example of "the boy asking for leniency for killing his parents, because he is now an orphan".

In other words, the Republicans are complaining about the situation that they themselves created for no other purpose than to have something to complain about.
Just like the "closed hearings" which weren't closed to them... this is just more of the same bullshit designed to avoid the truth, or distract from it, rather than find and expose it.

Queuing up the whataboutism about "all kinds of" courtroom antics "on both sides" in 3..2...1...

It is dishonest and treasonous behavior on only one side.
 
As an ex-Federal prosecutor explained on MSNBC, many a person has been sent to prison on hearsay evidence. If a reliable person passes on information, hearsay, that can be proven either by hard evidence or another witness who witnessed the crime, information that can be supported by such is useful. An anonymous tipster who calls Crime Stoppers and results in an investigation, arrest and conviction of a criminal is an example of how this works. The anonymous witness who tipped off this whole thing did so as part of his official duties as part of our system of checks and balances. He or she saw something disturbing going on and reported it as they should have done. And now a parade of witnesses that were directly involved will be testifying. The whistle blower was just the first to report this and had an opportunity to do so.
 
Trausti said:
Well, hearsay isn’t a primary source. If that’s all you got, it’s just a pile of Schiff.
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Ah yes... and in a month, the argument won't be about it being hearsay as first person testimony will attest to the actual conversations had... it'll be about how this was 'just business as usual' in foreign diplomacy.
 
Cheerful Charlie said:
As an ex-Federal prosecutor explained on MSNBC, many a person has been sent to prison on hearsay evidence. If a reliable person passes on information, hearsay, that can be proven either by hard evidence or another witness who witnessed the crime, information that can be supported by such is useful. An anonymous tipster who calls Crime Stoppers and results in an investigation, arrest and conviction of a criminal is an example of how this works. The anonymous witness who tipped off this whole thing did so as part of his official duties as part of our system of checks and balances. He or she saw something disturbing going on and reported it as they should have done. And now a parade of witnesses that were directly involved will be testifying. The whistle blower was just the first to report this and had an opportunity to do so.
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So, my wife is blessed with very young skin.. she appears over a decade younger than she is. She loves it. Thoroughly enjoys being "carded" for age restricted things.
Several years ago she and I went out to see a movie... I forget which one, but it was rated R. The ticket booth person asked her for ID, because of the movie rating... what she said, to this day, cracks me up. She said, "But I am accompanied by an adult!". She was 35 at the time. She didn't say, "I'm not under 17".. she said that it was OK to be under 17 in this case (because she was with me).
I love that story.. my wife is so cute sometimes...
But it is SO Dem of her to not address the main point of it not being a case of her being underage... but that if she was underage then it still would be ok for her to see the movie.

Do you get what I am saying?

Stop saying that Hearsay is OK sometimes. Say, "IT'S NOT HEARSAY WHEN YOU BLOCK THE PRIMARY SOURCE FROM SPEAKING".

Don't be "cute" about it.
 
It's going to be hilarious when Trump doesn't get impeached and wins the 2020 election. Dems are going to be slapping their foreheads.
 
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