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Jokodo said:
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Copernicus said:
Just got the results back for my wife's coronavirus test. As we expected, they were negative. So we can leave the house without risk of infecting others.
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Up to a point. If you touch something with your hand that has the virus on it, you could pick it up on your hand, and if you then later touch something else that someone else then touches with their hand, you could pass it on.

I read that use of petrol pump handles, for example, have been spreading the virus in this way, though obviously it could be anything. Yesterday, my wife and daughters and I braved a walk on a beach, and my daughter (a biologist) chided me for handling a gate latch on a path gate after I had let a jogger through who handled the latch just before me.
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I'm getting pretty good at handling things with my elbows and/or with the sleeve pulled over the hand.
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It's still chilly around here, yesterday the wind chill was still in the 30's. I took off my cap at one point to operate a public handle. That might seem dumb but the likelihood of transmission seemed less as compared to my bare hand.
 
I went to the grocery store early this morning; I felt as if I were preparing for a mission behind enemy lines. There were no more than 20 people shopping; the store was low on meat, but they had a little bit of everything. Milk, eggs, etc. were well-stocked. The paper goods aisle was empty.

Just a strange feeling.
 
The feeling I get is similar to when I worked for a biotech company going out of business at the end of the biotech bubble. Executives said we'd be fine after the first round of layoffs... Managers had all the software guys catch up on super documenting everything. That was the main focus. There was an uneasy feeling of something impending, time to think about it, and work you could take or leave. Then another round of layoffs a few months later--they had said that wouldn't happen. Special retention bonuses to keep people. More promises. More documentation. That same impending feeling. And then after a few months more layoffs. More management lies. False calm. Busy work. Rinse. Repeat. Layoffs. Millions of dollars in bonuses for execs.

Before you make apologies for all the documenting, let me tell you, I saw a custodian throw it all in the dumpster under orders...

The part that feels similar is the so-called "distance learning." It emotionally feels like busy work, not just for kids, but for parents. Can't revolt, organize, or cause chaos if you are busy teaching your kid all day so they pass their classes... The management lying part, that's Trump lying about timelines as they get larger. Corporations...even cruise industry getting lifelines.
 
hurtinbuckaroo said:
I went to the grocery store early this morning; I felt as if I were preparing for a mission behind enemy lines. There were no more than 20 people shopping; the store was low on meat, but they had a little bit of everything. Milk, eggs, etc. were well-stocked. The paper goods aisle was empty.

Just a strange feeling.
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I went to my local supermarket, they had a female employee outside the store acting like a nice club bouncer, checking with someone in the store via walkie-talkie to see if people could be let in. She was also armed with a spray bottle of disinfectant that she used to wipe down the handles on the shopping carts. I was ushered in pretty much immediately. Inside the store had a number of shoppers, some wearing masks, it looked like a lot of employees were wearing masks. The produce section was very well stocked. Canned goods had taken a hit as had frozen goods. But eggs, milk, meat, bread, water, toilet roll and diapers were all available limited to one item per household. People in line to check out were distanced 6' apart. All in all it was actually a better experience than normal. Seems like people know what they are in for, get their stuff and get the hell out ASAP. No browsing it seemed.

The roads in LA are quite quiet but there are still a lot of vehicles on the roads but it's a lot lighter which is nice as I have elected to come into the office. I could work from home I guess but I have too many people at home. The office has a skeleton staff and only has four people working. If this is the new normal, I am down with it.
 
barbos said:
Copernicus said:
Just got the results back for my wife's coronavirus test. As we expected, they were negative. So we can leave the house without risk of infecting others.
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I thought it was impossible to get tested in US unless you had symptoms
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Criteria vary from state to state, since there is a lack of leadership at the federal level. My wife had developed a cough in connection with her head cold. The doctor took into account her age and our past travel history (Asian cruise that ended March 1). So he decided to order the test as a precaution. Neither he nor we expected a positive result, but she had tested negative for influenza.

The Seattle area now has tests available, but we still are not using the standard WHO-approved test that other countries are using. The CDC and FDA are still insisting that they roll their own, and that has caused confusion and delay in our ability to test for the virus. They are approving some tests produced by private industry, but there is some confusion about how, or if, results are reported to the federal level.
 
TSwizzle said:
hurtinbuckaroo said:
I went to the grocery store early this morning; I felt as if I were preparing for a mission behind enemy lines. There were no more than 20 people shopping; the store was low on meat, but they had a little bit of everything. Milk, eggs, etc. were well-stocked. The paper goods aisle was empty.

Just a strange feeling.
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The roads in LA are quite quiet but there are still a lot of vehicles on the roads but it's a lot lighter which is nice as I have elected to come into the office. I could work from home I guess but I have too many people at home. The office has a skeleton staff and only has four people working. If this is the new normal, I am down with it.
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The new normal is attached to some depression of the GDP for a few years.
 
Well,my brother-in-law just got laid off this morning. He's a certified sign technician. He'll have to file for unemployment and, of course, lost his health insurance.
 
ZiprHead said:
Well,my brother-in-law just got laid off this morning. He's a certified sign technician. He'll have to file for unemployment and, of course, lost his health insurance.
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A side effect of the economic collapse will be that people avoid getting medical help, because they will no longer be able to afford it.
 
Copernicus said:
ZiprHead said:
Well,my brother-in-law just got laid off this morning. He's a certified sign technician. He'll have to file for unemployment and, of course, lost his health insurance.
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A side effect of the economic collapse will be that people avoid getting medical help, because they will no longer be able to afford it.
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Truly, we need to look at the silver linings of the tornado. :)
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Ohio is primarily shut down. Glad I live where I do, so hiking is still a viable option.
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How viable is it? I haven't gone out for 3 weeks now because around here there's no way to avoid being too close to fellow hikers around the trailhead, not to mention how congested some destinations are. If everyone was sensible it would probably be ok, but there are too many out there who aren't. Example: One of the local hike leaders was planning to take 20+ people down to a local hot spring. 20+ in one group? To a hot spring that in usual times at least is just enough room that people aren't touching. And it's in a slot canyon where stepping to the side to get enough clearance isn't possible, not to mention that the only two approaches are via a ladder (which was recently damaged and isn't there right now), or a short, easy class 3 scramble--in other words, in both directions you have no choice but to put your hands where everyone else puts theirs. Multiple people telling him the park service closed the trailhead wasn't enough, he had to drive down there and see it was closed before he decided to change the destination.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Ohio is primarily shut down. Glad I live where I do, so hiking is still a viable option.
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How viable is it? I haven't gone out for 3 weeks now because around here there's no way to avoid being too close to fellow hikers around the trailhead, not to mention how congested some destinations are.
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It's very hilly and consequently, not heavily traveled. It is in an area with a flat limestone paved trail, what those people use. On Saturday, I walked another trail with my daughter, saw less than ten people in the hour hike.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Loren Pechtel said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
Ohio is primarily shut down. Glad I live where I do, so hiking is still a viable option.
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How viable is it? I haven't gone out for 3 weeks now because around here there's no way to avoid being too close to fellow hikers around the trailhead, not to mention how congested some destinations are.
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It's very hilly and consequently, not heavily traveled. It is in an area with a flat limestone paved trail, what those people use. On Saturday, I walked another trail with my daughter, saw less than ten people in the hour hike.
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Some trails are quite narrow, single track. Find one that is broad and not so popular. I was out yesterday too, hundreds of people at the local park, many with their dogs. But we were able to stay away from everyone, because we stayed away from the tight trails.

Or maybe you could use your trekking pole to jab at intruders. ;)
 
T.G.G. Moogly said:
Jimmy Higgins said:
It's very hilly and consequently, not heavily traveled. It is in an area with a flat limestone paved trail, what those people use. On Saturday, I walked another trail with my daughter, saw less than ten people in the hour hike.
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Some trails are quite narrow, single track. Find one that is broad and not so popular. I was out yesterday too, hundreds of people at the local park, many with their dogs. But we were able to stay away from everyone, because we stayed away from the tight trails.
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Other than trails in washes there's no such thing as a broad trail around here. In some places you can step far enough off the trail, in others that's harder and in some places it's out of the question. (Why were you idiots going to Arizona Hot Springs?? Not only is the hot springs not where you should be but it's in a slot canyon which currently has only one access point. (The other side had a ladder that was damaged, now it would be at a minimum a class 5 up a small waterfall) The park service closed the trailhead--and this afternoon I found a video someone shot there of a whole bunch of cars there with tickets on them.)

Or maybe you could use your trekking pole to jab at intruders. ;)
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Perhaps something along those lines should be done. How about a new law: When a social distancing order is in effect if you are standing still and not blocking a chokepoint it is considered legal self defense to use a stun gun on anyone other than a member of your household, a first responder or someone you have initiated contact with. The fact that you were capable of doing so grants a presumption that you were defending social distancing.
 
We have completed week 1 of isolation. I’m glad we live in the middle of nowhere so we can hike and bike and run. But today’s snowy weather made that not appealing. I’m hoping to get out into the garden. Working from home, though, so the days are just as full as they are usually. But hopefully evenings will start to be pleasant out. Looking forward to next Monday, when I can see my son again once he’s completed his two weeks.
 
Our Governor as of 8pm yesterday upped the ante. Only food, medicine and care-giving are considered essential reasons for travel. Folks are allowed to go outside to walk, exercise, walk dogs, etc. The car needed care and so with all the extra time and the crappy weather I've been walking to a parts dealer to pick up things as needed. Is that a no-no now?

Also, how does a store like Walmart keep people out of the other departments? Weird.
 
We've only been to the grocery store. Yesterday we stocked up on food that should last for a week or so. The store was less crowded than I've ever seen it. A worker was wiping down baskets with a sanitizer. There were signs all over the place asking shoppers to stay at least six feet apart. We thanked one of the people who worked in the meat department for being there. Some meats were in short supply and there was supposed to be a limit on chicken and beef to no more than 3 packs per person. Most paper products were wiped out again, but we didn't need any.

Our neighborhood isn't at all crowded and it's easy for walkers to take a stroll without getting close to anyone else So, my husband still enjoys his 3 mile morning walk, while I stay inside and do an aerobic workout on DVD. My feet are too painful to walk very far, so this works out well for both of us. But, we have a large yard with plenty of birds to watch. Plus there are many parks here which are never crowded, so we have options.

So far, this hasn't been much of an inconvenience for us. I just wish the people in my town were taking it more seriously. Schools are closed and I'm pretty sure all of the churches have finally stopped having services, but restaurants, hair and nail salons etc. remain open.
 
bilby said:
One hopeful sign: According to the BBC Sport website, the EFL Championship matches for March and April have all been postponed, but the May fixtures are still listed. Perhaps they know something we don't? ;)
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Or it could be that they are taking advice from this guy.
 
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