Police shooting in Atlanta aka "Sir, this is a Wendy's drive-through"

[Derec]

So there was a police shooting in south Atlanta. This guy Rayshard Brooks passed out in a hood (just south of former Turner Field where Braves used to play) Wendy's drive-through, as one does, and police were called. They tried taking him into custody, a scuffle ensured, he took a taser off of one of the officers and got shot.
Our weak police chief immediately resigned.

Atlanta police chief resigns over shooting of Rayshard Brooks

Rayshard Brooks, 27, was shot by a police officer during a struggle on Friday, authorities say.
Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said Erika Shields handed in her resignation on Saturday.
Protesters in Atlanta took to the streets this weekend calling for action following Mr Brooks' death.

Erika Shields showed her weakness when she instituted a blanket "no chase" policy for ATLPD. Then she showed weakness in not going hard after rioters and looters during the George Floyd "protests" and the rioting spread outside the immediate downtown area where it started. Now she showing weakness in immediately resigning even though the shooting looks justified.

I'd say "good riddance", but I think Keisha Bottoms will appoint somebody even worse to take her place. Atlanta has made big strides in recent 10-20 years. I would hate if all that is undone by weak leadership.

Mayor Bottoms has also called for the termination of the officer involved in Brooks' death.

Is that our new reality? Police officers fired whenever they shoot a black criminal (and only a black criminal) regardless of the facts or circumstances?

The Georgia Bureau of Investigations (GBI) is probing the death of Brooks, 27, and is looking at video from a security camera inside the Wendy's restaurant and also eyewitness footage.
It says police had been called to the restaurant because Mr Brooks had fallen asleep in his car, which was blocking the drive-through lane.
According to police, Mr Brooks resisted arrest after he failed a breathalyzer test.
A report from the GBI said footage captured from inside the Wendy's restaurant shows officers chasing Brooks before he turns and points a Taser at an officer.
"The officer then fired his weapon, striking Brooks," the report said.

Obviously, the officer should have let himself get tased by the thug. I mean, if he was white or something Mayor Bottoms would have let it go, but Black Lives Matter....

In the eyewitness video, Brooks can be seen on the ground outside a Wendy's restaurant, struggling with two police officers.
He grabs an officer's Taser and breaks free from the officers, running away. The other officer then manages to use a Taser on Brooks and both officers then run out of the frame of the video.
Gun shots can then be heard and Brooks is seen on the ground.
He was taken to hospital but later died. One of the officers was treated for an injury from the incident.

So he was definitely attacking the police officers, who have the right to defend themselves. The perp even injured one of the cops. But Keisha Bottoms instinctively takes the position against the police officers of her city. That's not what leadership looks like!

And the family has already hired a hearse chaser.

This shooting comes at the heels of a non-fatal shooting outside of Atlanta where a bunch of thugs carjacked a group of people, pistol-whipping the driver, on Old Dixie Hwy. in Clayton County.
GBI ID’s carjacking suspects shot by Clayton County police

Two men were shot by police Wednesday night after a carjacking investigation kicked off a car and foot chase in Clayton County.
One was shot in the shoulder and the other in the back during an exchange of gunfire with Clayton County officers, according to the police department. Both are expected to survive.They were being pursued after jumping out of a vehicle that was reported stolen in a carjacking, police spokeswoman Lt. Cherie West said in a news release. Four victims told police they were forced from their vehicle at the Vera Cruz Apartments on Old Dixie Highway shortly after 8 p.m.The driver was hit over the head with the butt of a gun, West said. He told responding officers that multiple men got into the vehicle and drove away.
[...]
Three people jumped out and started running in two directions, West said. “During the foot chase, suspects brandished handguns and began firing upon the officers,” she said. “The officers then returned fire to the suspects.”The GBI, which is investigating the officer-involved shooting, said 17-year-old Marqualo Mulkey pointed a gun at the officers, prompting officers to fire. The GBI did not find that Mulkey fired his weapon.Officers later shot Quendavious Deonte Redden, 20, during a chase, the GBI said. The third suspect, 17-year-old Marquez Mulkey, was later captured. All three are from Forest Park.

Luckily Keisha Bottoms doesn't have jurisdiction there!

 

[Derec]

Protesters break out windows, set fire to inside of Wendy’s where Rayshard Brooks was killed

I bet Jarhyn will come along any minute now to thugsplain to us how vandalizing and torching a Wendy's is justified because they are an evil corporation akin to Nazis and besides, it's their own fault for calling the cops because some drunk passed out in their drive-through ...

WSB is wrong for calling these vandals "protesters". They are nothing but a bunch of thugs and all of them should get a trip to Fulton County Jail.

 

[Derec]

By the way, Rayshard Brooks passing out in a Wendy's drive-through is reminiscent of the case of an "aspiring rapper" in California who passed out in a Taco Bell drive-through.

Cops Kill Rapper Willy Bo, Who Had Been Sleeping In His Car

 

[Metaphor]

Protesters break out windows, set fire to inside of Wendy’s where Rayshard Brooks was killed

I bet Jarhyn will come along any minute now to thugsplain to us how vandalizing and torching a Wendy's is justified because they are an evil corporation akin to Nazis and besides, it's their own fault for calling the cops because some drunk passed out in their drive-through ...

WSB is wrong for calling these vandals "protesters". They are nothing but a bunch of thugs and all of them should get a trip to Fulton County Jail.

That Wendy's called the cops on a black person, so they are complicit co-murderers. It's a shame only that Wells Fargo and Target were not next to this Wendy's to enable geographically convenient property destruction.

 

[Trausti]

Protesters break out windows, set fire to inside of Wendy’s where Rayshard Brooks was killed

I bet Jarhyn will come along any minute now to thugsplain to us how vandalizing and torching a Wendy's is justified because they are an evil corporation akin to Nazis and besides, it's their own fault for calling the cops because some drunk passed out in their drive-through ...

WSB is wrong for calling these vandals "protesters". They are nothing but a bunch of thugs and all of them should get a trip to Fulton County Jail.

That Wendy's called the cops on a black person, so they are complicit co-murderers. It's a shame only that Wells Fargo and Target were not next to this Wendy's to enable geographically convenient property destruction.

The Rayshard Brooks Memorial Undocumented Shopping Spree location TBD.

 

[repoman]

How the cops respond to passed out drunks and drug users (not casting aspersions) can be very dicey and dangerous. Both for the cops and the drunks.

A woken up drunk should not be charged for assault for flailing reflexively for the first few seconds.

(this is a hypothetical now --- if the guy flailed on waking but not too bad or with malice and then the cops said "That's assault charges for you" that would have been a bad move by them)

Also, reaching for a gun is a natural response to being startled by big aggressive dudes when asleep.

I guess we will find out the full details of the guy and the cops later. Terrible.

 

[Derec]

Howo the cops respond to papssed out drunks and drug users (not casting aspersions) can be very dicey and dangerous. Both for the cops and the drunks.

A woken up drunk should not be charged for assault for flailing reflexively for the first few seconds.

This wasn't first two seconds though. He reportedly got out of his car, was administered a field sobriety test (which he flunked), and when they tried to take him into custody he attacked the officers.

By the way, the officer who shot has been fired. He should sue, as the firing is purely political. Instead of firing officers who defend themselves, why not arrest some of the arsonists who torched the Wendy's or the idiots who blocked the Downtown Connector for hours? That Bottoms can't accomplish. Keeping businesses safe and highways passable is beyond her abilities apparently - maybe we need a more competent mayor!

 

[repoman]

Oh man, my bad for being too lazy to read

 

[marc]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

 

[laughing dog]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

It is a real tragedy. No one expects that waking up a drunk or drugged out driver in a take out lane ends up in a death.

If police officers are armed with tasers and fire arms, then tasers are considered non-lethal weapons. IMO, a non-lethal threat does not necessitate an immediate lethal reaction.

 

[TV and credit cards]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

If the keys were in the ignition, it likely is drunk driving. As far as that goes.

 

[laughing dog]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

If the keys were in the ignition, it likely is drunk driving. As far as that goes.

I was surprised to find how common it is from local arrest reports (printed on our local paper) of people passing out while in the carry out lane.

 

[marc]

There is an old Monty Python sketch where an instructor is teaching people how to defend yourself against someone attacking with a banana. Once he got a student to attack him the procedure was shoot the guy then eat the banana. It is getting to the point where I’m wondering if police training is taking this as a valid response.

 

[marc]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

If the keys were in the ignition, it likely is drunk driving. As far as that goes.

Not necessarily. Once I was with a friend at a bar. I had one drink before we left for our favorite late night restaurant, the drink started kicking in by the time we got there, and when we came out I was in no shape to drive. So we put our seats back and took a nap until I sobered up enough to drive.

 

[laughing dog]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free and ran, they shot him in the back.

If the keys were in the ignition, it likely is drunk driving. As far as that goes.

Not necessarily. Once I was with a friend at a bar. I had one drink before we left for our favorite late night restaurant, the drink started kicking in by the time we got there, and when we came out I was in no shape to drive. So we put our seats back and took a nap until I sobered up enough to drive.

In some localities, once the key is in the ignition, you are considered driving even when the engine has not started or the vehicle is not moving.

 

[Derec]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free

punched a police officer, stole a taser and used it against the pursuing cops you forgot to add.

 

[Derec]

If police officers are armed with tasers and fire arms, then tasers are considered non-lethal weapons. IMO, a non-lethal threat does not necessitate an immediate lethal reaction.

Why not? Tasers incapacitate (which would allow the perp to steal the gun as well) and they can be deadly in some circumstances.

 

[marc]

The officers checked him for weapons, found none. He failed a breathalyzer, so they tried to arrest him even though he was not driving while drunk. He resisted, broke free

punched a police officer, stole a taser and used it against the pursuing cops you forgot to add.

Tried to use the taser and missed. So they shot an unarmed drunk guy running away from them

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

If police officers are armed with tasers and fire arms, then tasers are considered non-lethal weapons. IMO, a non-lethal threat does not necessitate an immediate lethal reaction.

Why not? Tasers incapacitate (which would allow the perp to steal the gun as well) and they can be deadly in some circumstances.

Items that are considered non-lethal when used by cops on perps are considered lethal when used by perps on cops. When the police-grade taser was first sold to the US population, police objected on the grounds by calling tasers lethal weapons.

 

[Treedbear]

If police officers are armed with tasers and fire arms, then tasers are considered non-lethal weapons. IMO, a non-lethal threat does not necessitate an immediate lethal reaction.

Why not? Tasers incapacitate (which would allow the perp to steal the gun as well) and they can be deadly in some circumstances.

He'd already fired the taser so it was no longer a threat. The only reason the cop had for killing the man was that it was the only way to stop him from running away. That's the only reason. Obviously they would have been able to apprehend him eventually since they had his car and knew who he was. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that police are being taught that killing someone is an acceptable means for accomplishing a task in the performance of their duties. And there is no need to weigh the value of that human life with respect to them accomplishing that task. I suspect that in many cases this has something to do with racism. But sure as shit it's a systemic problem. If the only way to control it is to fire some officers and burn down a few businesses then so be it. This is a war against an endemic problem within our police departments just as sure as we are in a war against the COVID-19 pandemic. I don't condone the destruction of private property. Think of it as collateral damage. Innocent people often get hurt when the survival of a society is at stake.