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[barbos]

I think Clowns in Russian Duma are missing an opportunity here. They need to pass a similar law sanctioning let say trade between US and Canada or Mexico. Sanction canadian oil pipeline to US, or Mexican Tequila exporters.

US is too dependent on Canadian oil and need to diversify and who else is to do something about it if not Russia? US will thank Russia

Actually, Russia is the country with the dependency on oil, since it doesn't really export much of anything else. The Russian government can impose all the economic sanctions it wants on other governments, but it doesn't have enough economic clout to scare anyone with that kind of tactic.

You misunderstood. I don't expect these "sanctions" to hurt Canada/US in any way. I suggested them as a way to illustrate the point that clowns in Congress are clowns.

If it weren't stuck with an foolish autocrat trying to rebuild last century's Russian Empire, the Russian economy could actually become as much of a powerhouse as the Western economies it is trying to compete with.

You keep repeating propaganda. But I do appreciate your neocon honesty.

 

[barbos]

I think Clowns in Russian Duma are missing an opportunity here. They need to pass a similar law sanctioning let say trade between US and Canada or Mexico. Sanction canadian oil pipeline to US, or Mexican Tequila exporters.

US is too dependent on Canadian oil and need to diversify and who else is to do something about it if not Russia? US will thank Russia

Actually, Russia is the country with the dependency on oil, since it doesn't really export much of anything else. The Russian government can impose all the economic sanctions it wants on other governments, but it doesn't have enough economic clout to scare anyone with that kind of tactic. If it weren't stuck with an foolish autocrat trying to rebuild last century's Russian Empire, the Russian economy could actually become as much of a powerhouse as the Western economies it is trying to compete with.

Russia appears to rely on oil/gas for about 50% of their exports. Not as bad as Saudi Arabia, but economic export diversification is definitely not something Russia has much of.

Canada is the 7th leading oil producer and has export diversification, despite having one-fifth the population of Russia..

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

 

[fromderinside]

barbos wrote:

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

The only problem with the above is everything including the throw away oily strawman. Fracking lobby works through Trump administration, saving them big bucks, who guides them to movers with which to work through Congress. So the Puppet is Congress, not Trump. Trump is bought scum. Unfortunately Trump has Republicans by the electoral balls so they are second hand bought scum.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

barbos wrote:

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

Their GDP per capita is 12th in the world... Russia 59th.

 

[ZiprHead]

barbos wrote:

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

Their GDP per capita is 12th in the world... Russia 59th.

The only reason Russia is anything more than a boil on the ass of the world is they have nukes.

 

[Elixir]

barbos wrote:

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

Their GDP per capita is 12th in the world... Russia 59th.

The only reason Russia is anything more than a boil on the ass of the world is they have nukes.

I disagree entirely. The reason that Russia is a boil on the ass of the world is because they have relied on oil extraction to the exclusion of almost all else to support their economy.
Their blessing is that it will take much, much longer for them the rape and ruin their six and a half million square miles than it will take the rest of the world to ruin ... the rest of the world.
Russia could own the last "wild places" in the next century, and that could be priceless.

 

[barbos]

barbos wrote:

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

Their GDP per capita is 12th in the world... Russia 59th.

Yes, Russia needs more oil to become Norway

 

[fromderinside]

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

The reason that Russia is a boil on the ass of the world is because they have relied on oil extraction to the exclusion of almost all else to support their economy.

Their blessing is that it will take much, much longer for them the rape and ruin their six and a half million square miles than it will take the rest of the world to ruin ... the rest of the world.

Russia could own the last "wild places" in the next century, and that could be priceless.

So since Russia has about 29 times the population of Norway, Norway exports about 1/3 the oil exported by Russia. Wow. A place of 6.6 million square miles produces three times the oil of a place of 149 thousand square miles for export. So with about forty times the territory Russia exports less than one tenth the oil per square mile of Norway.

Russian resources have already been depleted to where they now produce at about one half their peak production in the late nineties. Also given what they did to their nuclear test fields and mining ares I suspect they are way ahead of the rest of the world in depleting resources. Trees are an exception.Except much of their forests grow over methane permafrost tundra which will go air born in a few decades, ruining the forests.

No Elixer, I think Russia will deplete resources well before the rest of the world uses up it's productive resources.

 

[barbos]

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

The reason that Russia is a boil on the ass of the world is because they have relied on oil extraction to the exclusion of almost all else to support their economy.

Their blessing is that it will take much, much longer for them the rape and ruin their six and a half million square miles than it will take the rest of the world to ruin ... the rest of the world.

Russia could own the last "wild places" in the next century, and that could be priceless.

So since Russia has about 29 times the population of Norway, Norway exports about 1/3 the oil exported by Russia. Wow. A place of 6.6 million square miles produces three times the oil of a place of 149 thousand square miles for export. So with about forty times the territory Russia exports less than one tenth the oil per square mile of Norway.

I fail to see a point here.

Russian resources have already been depleted to where they now produce at about one half their peak production in the late nineties. Also given what they did to their nuclear test fields and mining ares I suspect they are way ahead of the rest of the world in depleting resources.

Don't see a point here either.

Trees are an exception.Except much of their forests grow over methane permafrost tundra which will go air born in a few decades, ruining the forests.

You are retardedly confused. Tundra is not forest.

No Elixer, I think Russia will deplete resources well before the rest of the world uses up it's productive resources.

Norway has passed their peak oil production too. And again I don't see a point here.

 

[Elixir]

Norway export 10 times more oil (per capita) than Russia.
But that's not the point. The point is, fracking lobby bought Congress into voting clearly illegal (internationally) law, and Trump the puppet signed it.

The reason that Russia is a boil on the ass of the world is because they have relied on oil extraction to the exclusion of almost all else to support their economy.

Their blessing is that it will take much, much longer for them the rape and ruin their six and a half million square miles than it will take the rest of the world to ruin ... the rest of the world.

Russia could own the last "wild places" in the next century, and that could be priceless.

So since Russia has about 29 times the population of Norway, Norway exports about 1/3 the oil exported by Russia. Wow. A place of 6.6 million square miles produces three times the oil of a place of 149 thousand square miles for export. So with about forty times the territory Russia exports less than one tenth the oil per square mile of Norway.

Russian resources have already been depleted to where they now produce at about one half their peak production in the late nineties. Also given what they did to their nuclear test fields and mining ares I suspect they are way ahead of the rest of the world in depleting resources. Trees are an exception.Except much of their forests grow over methane permafrost tundra which will go air born in a few decades, ruining the forests.

No Elixer, I think Russia will deplete resources well before the rest of the world uses up it's productive resources.

Well my friend, neither you nor I will be around to win or lose that bet. For now it is sufficient to note barbos' inability to see the point either way; that inability is likely more of a factor in relegating Russia to boil status than what either of us has postulated.

 

[blastula]

Exclusive: Trump never raised Russia's Taliban bounties with Putin - Axios

And he's had 8 conversations with him since the intel was given to him. He talks with Putin more than with Barron.

MARA

 

[barbos]

Exclusive: Trump never raised Russia's Taliban bounties with Putin - Axios

And he's had 8 conversations with him since the intel was given to him. He talks with Putin more than with Barron.

MARA

There is no intel and even if there was it would have been stupid to reveal it to Putin.

 

[blastula]

Reveal what's in the news already?

 

[barbos]

Reveal what's in the news already?

Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.

 

[Copernicus]

Reveal what's in the news already?

Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.

It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.

 

[barbos]

Reveal what's in the news already?

Well, in that case Putin already knows it, no need to inform him.

It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.

Putin will ask for evidence and also will ask to stop illegal and corrupt sanctions on Gazprom.
Then he will ask about this video:

Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response
Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

 

[KeepTalking]

It's not a matter of informing him. It's a matter of pressuring him to stop. By not bringing the matter up or expressing any concern over the bounties that both men know about, Trump is essentially letting Putin know that he can keep doing it. But Trump is essentially Putin's Poison Pill President, so Putin knows that he holds all the leverage with Trump, who needs all the help he can get from his patron in the upcoming election. This is what has people most upset about here. And, if Trump is not re-elected, Putin should know that there will be consequences starting in 2021. He has had 4 years to take his revenge out on the US. Now he needs to realize that what goes around comes around.

Putin will ask for evidence and also will ask to stop illegal and corrupt sanctions on Gazprom.

Without Trump in office to stroke his cock, the new US administration will not give a shit about Putey's feelings or showing him evidence that he will deny. They will also laugh in his face when he brings up sanctions against his market manipulating gas company.

Then he will ask about this video:

Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.

Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response

By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

Bring it.

 

[barbos]

Without Trump in office to stroke his cock, the new US administration will not give a shit about Putey's feelings or showing him evidence that he will deny. They will also laugh in his face when he brings up sanctions against his market manipulating gas company.

That would be a news for the EU.

Then he will ask about this video:

Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.

Russia is a legal successor of USSR, and you have never explained your actions of paying terrorists to kill Russians.

Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response

By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Really?

Trust me, you don't want this to happen.

Bring it.

 

[KeepTalking]

That would be a news for the EU.

No, that would be news from the EU:
EU charges Gazprom with market abuse

Then they will ask what the fuck the Soviet Union during the Cold War has to do with Russian now. Trust me, you don't want to know the answer.

Russia is a legal successor of USSR, and you have never explained your actions of paying terrorists to kill Russians.

You might want to read up on the Cold War, it was not all balloons and kittens. Also, it is supposed to be over, too bad Putin never got the memo.

Then he will switch to BLM and COVID-19 response

By all accounts, the COVID-19 response in Russia (or is the new USSR?) is nearly as bad, so that won't get him anywhere. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand.

Really?

Really:
How Russias Coronavirus Crisis Got So Bad
WHO Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Dashboard - The dark blue countries are those that have had the worst response to the pandemic.

It does appear that since June, Russia is improving, despite a response that was nearly as poor as the US response. How much of that is due to the control of data from the Russian government is anyone's guess. Now that the White House has control of US data, expect it to improve remarkably as well. I am sure that is one of the things Trump learned from Putin in his monthly 1-on-1's with his boss.

 

[Elixir]

It does appear that since June, Russia is improving, despite a response that was nearly as poor as the US response. How much of that is due to the control of data from the Russian government is anyone's guess. Now that the White House has control of US data, expect it to improve remarkably as well. I am sure that is one of the things Trump learned from Putin in his monthly 1-on-1's with his boss.

It's quite apparent that Putin has been dictating the federal US "response". And quite effectively (for his purposes).