DrZoidberg
Contributor
I love science fiction. There's no limit to how much I can see the same basic story be retold. I'm also very pro-feminism. I miss it.
Alien/Aliens is kickass. Stepford wives was awesome. Sarah Connor in the Terminator movies grew to be a beast. A great feminist arc. Uhura in Star Trek being on the bridge and both her race and gender is just ignored = genius. Cherry 2000 clever.
What these have in common is that they are old films/shows. All the new films hailed as "feminist" seems to just use the feminst image as a figleaf. It was cool that Gravity was a solo film and picked a woman in it. But I think that's about it. The rest of them doesn't explore shit. It just puts a woman in the lead, but otherwise just reinforces old gender stereotypes.
Wonder woman. Avathar. The hunger games. Mad Max Fury Road. Star Wars the Force awakens. Why are these seen as feminst? What makes them feminist other than that there's a woman in the lead? A young, hot woman, who mostly gets by on traits we already associate with being a woman. At least Xena looked like she could beat a guy in a fist fight. Shrek seems to be a bastion of feminism by comparisson.
Feminsm in sci-fi seems to, of late, have been reduced to a sales pitch. A superficial label to slap on top of an otherwise traditional sexist movie.
The gay themes are doing better. But that's understandable, since sci fi, arguably, is fundamentally mostly about being gay. That's where most of it came from and is still exploring. That includes lesbian themes. But the CIS feminist angle seems dead today.
I miss the angry feminism of the 1970'ies. Being angry and exaggerating to make a point makes good story telling. This bland bullshit of late sucks. Valery Solanas come back. The world needs you.
Thoughts? Am I wrong? Am I being a boomer?
Alien/Aliens is kickass. Stepford wives was awesome. Sarah Connor in the Terminator movies grew to be a beast. A great feminist arc. Uhura in Star Trek being on the bridge and both her race and gender is just ignored = genius. Cherry 2000 clever.
What these have in common is that they are old films/shows. All the new films hailed as "feminist" seems to just use the feminst image as a figleaf. It was cool that Gravity was a solo film and picked a woman in it. But I think that's about it. The rest of them doesn't explore shit. It just puts a woman in the lead, but otherwise just reinforces old gender stereotypes.
Wonder woman. Avathar. The hunger games. Mad Max Fury Road. Star Wars the Force awakens. Why are these seen as feminst? What makes them feminist other than that there's a woman in the lead? A young, hot woman, who mostly gets by on traits we already associate with being a woman. At least Xena looked like she could beat a guy in a fist fight. Shrek seems to be a bastion of feminism by comparisson.
Feminsm in sci-fi seems to, of late, have been reduced to a sales pitch. A superficial label to slap on top of an otherwise traditional sexist movie.
The gay themes are doing better. But that's understandable, since sci fi, arguably, is fundamentally mostly about being gay. That's where most of it came from and is still exploring. That includes lesbian themes. But the CIS feminist angle seems dead today.
I miss the angry feminism of the 1970'ies. Being angry and exaggerating to make a point makes good story telling. This bland bullshit of late sucks. Valery Solanas come back. The world needs you.
Thoughts? Am I wrong? Am I being a boomer?