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Why I don't see Fascism as a failure

Matthew Mussolini

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When Gandhi visited Fascist Italy, he tried to find a single Italian who didn't like the Duce. He couldn't. One of the common responses was "he puts more money in our pockets".

If the Fascist Dictator is a benevolent genius who operates with prudence, as Benito mainly did before 1939, Fascism creates more jobs, creates economic miracles, and gives people incentive to work harder, where Communism, or a Democracy when heavily influenced by socialism, can take away incentives to work harder or get a College education.

Fascism also successfully made short work of the mafia and lowered crime.

Fascism resurrected the Roman Empire with the conquest of the Ethiopian Empire , and the house of Solomon. Fascism abolished slavery and barbaric practices within that Empire like the amputation of limbs and genitals and brought them better education and healthcare as part of a Roman Empire.

Fascism may have saved Italy and Germany from falling to Communism, and Fascism did indeed prevent Spain from falling to Communism in the Spanish Civil war. The Fascist regime in Spain lasted until after 1975 and was a crucial ally of America during the cold war.

Fascism brought into existence what is still to this day standing as it's own Fascist independent country , Vatican City State....created by Mussolini in 1929 when he signed the Lateran treaty. Pope Pius 11 called Mussolini "the man of providence!"

Now some of these might sound silly, but decorating graves and belief in contacting the dead, venerating the heroes that built the nation and wardead especially, praying for and loving the faithful departed , is a very Fascist practice, as it was the practice of the founder , who opened up his Doctrine of Fascism with a statement that death achieves for the soul perfection in a purely spiritual state.

Bringing prayer to public schools was intrinsically Fascist, but that isn't necessarily bad for society. Countless studies show scientific benefits to prayer.

Fascism had a ban on abortion. Well, I think abortion can be merciful to the child and the mother sometimes, but we kill 25% of our American citizens through abortion, and that is just ridiculous. Not to mention I've been with women who have had abortions. They were traumatized for life.

Low fertility in Europe thanks to abortion primarily is causing an enormous crisis. I don't exactly agree with a ban on abortion, because women will then get them through less safe means, and I live in the ghetto surrounded by misery, and some people, myself included, probably should be aborted. But the problem is, it is the killing of one human against another, which means abortion is literally homicide.

Fascism stresses the importance of maturity, discipline, self control, and nuclear family, expressing a disapproval of divorce (although divorce was permitted). I think we can agree those virtues are good for society.

The Doctrine of Fascism says the Fascist disdains an easy life, prays for the grace to love suffering, and the life of a Fascist is Religious and austere.

Disdain for an easy life is necessary to get ahead sometimes. It requires sacrifice to get a degree, unleash your full potential with employment, or truly be responsible. Resistance and austerity builds strength.

If you love suffering, you will be more strong, because suffering, humiliation, disappointment, sickness, and death is inevitable.


The life of a Fascist is religious. I know that countless drug addicts swear that they would never have been able to get sober without Religion.

But anyway, I think you can't really argue that most of the virtues Fascism extols , promotes, and defends ( that I mentioned ), can strengthen people, and strengthen society as a whole.

A lot of what Fascism promotes is healthy. The Doctrine of Fascism promotes no hatred or racism. The Bible and Qur'an does however. So Fascism is the more peaceful religious concept of the three in it's essence.

Fascism was promoted in the Scriptures. God never inspired a Democracy in Israel. It was totalitarian, nationalist, militant, patriotic, Right wing Jingoism, Theocracy,( too extreme even for me. Mussolini's Italy was lax in comparison). It was an absolute monarchy with an anointed leader selected by God.

They didn't call it "Fascism" but it had absolutely every qualification for being a Fascist State. If America decided to live like God's government found in Scripture, everyone and their grandmother would call it a Fascist Dictatorship.

So, the Bible is a Fascist book, and Yahweh is extremely Fascist in all but name. I don't like the Bible as a general rule, but it still influences more people than any book by far and is still the best seller year after year.

I don't really see Fascism as having been a failure.
Mussolini errored thinking he needed to enter the war on Hitler's side to create an antibolshivek block, and be Caesar of a 20th century Roman Empire, to defend the west from the errors of Communism and militant secularism.

He made a mistake and deserved to lose that war. ( But he was also found innocent of war crimes.).

But Democracies make mistakes and lose wars too. Mussolini's error in judgement was no more a reflection of Fascism than genocide of Indians or slavery is a reflection of Democracy in America.

Besides, Democracy is mob rule. If 90% of the people decide crystal Meth, prostitution, pedophilia, and driving while extremely drunk should be legal, that doesn't mean it should be.

Also, Fascism can suck too. Don't get me wrong.

It depends on if the leader is an enlightened, benevolent genius!
 

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If it weren’t for the Nazi penchant for racial genocide, fascism would have a better reputation today; it was the Italian fascists who abolished slavery in Ethiopia.
 
Gandhi's failure to find an italian who did not like Mussolini is evidence of Gandhi's poor research skills.

Apparently, Il Duce had plenty of people who disliked him. The evidence is his execution.
 
Citizenship starts at the sunny end of the birth canal. Thus, only botched abortions kill citizens.
 
The Doctrine of Fascism says the Fascist disdains an easy life, prays for the grace to love suffering, and the life of a Fascist is Religious and austere.

But they liked Mussolini because "he puts money in our pockets", not because of any of the attributes you ascribe to fascism. So there was no attraction to fascism; they would have followed any leader espousing any "philosophy" as long as it "put money in their pockets".
 
When Gandhi visited Fascist Italy, he tried to find a single Italian who didn't like the Duce. He couldn't. One of the common responses was "he puts more money in our pockets".

If the Fascist Dictator is a benevolent genius who operates with prudence, as Benito mainly did before 1939, Fascism creates more jobs, creates economic miracles, and gives people incentive to work harder, where Communism, or a Democracy when heavily influenced by socialism, can take away incentives to work harder or get a College education.

Fascism also successfully made short work of the mafia and lowered crime.

Fascism resurrected the Roman Empire with the conquest of the Ethiopian Empire , and the house of Solomon. Fascism abolished slavery and barbaric practices within that Empire like the amputation of limbs and genitals and brought them better education and healthcare as part of a Roman Empire.

Fascism may have saved Italy and Germany from falling to Communism, and Fascism did indeed prevent Spain from falling to Communism in the Spanish Civil war. The Fascist regime in Spain lasted until after 1975 and was a crucial ally of America during the cold war.

Fascism brought into existence what is still to this day standing as it's own Fascist independent country , Vatican City State....created by Mussolini in 1929 when he signed the Lateran treaty. Pope Pius 11 called Mussolini "the man of providence!"

Now some of these might sound silly, but decorating graves and belief in contacting the dead, venerating the heroes that built the nation and wardead especially, praying for and loving the faithful departed , is a very Fascist practice, as it was the practice of the founder , who opened up his Doctrine of Fascism with a statement that death achieves for the soul perfection in a purely spiritual state.

Bringing prayer to public schools was intrinsically Fascist, but that isn't necessarily bad for society. Countless studies show scientific benefits to prayer.

Fascism had a ban on abortion. Well, I think abortion can be merciful to the child and the mother sometimes, but we kill 25% of our American citizens through abortion, and that is just ridiculous. Not to mention I've been with women who have had abortions. They were traumatized for life.

Low fertility in Europe thanks to abortion primarily is causing an enormous crisis. I don't exactly agree with a ban on abortion, because women will then get them through less safe means, and I live in the ghetto surrounded by misery, and some people, myself included, probably should be aborted. But the problem is, it is the killing of one human against another, which means abortion is literally homicide.

Fascism stresses the importance of maturity, discipline, self control, and nuclear family, expressing a disapproval of divorce (although divorce was permitted). I think we can agree those virtues are good for society.

The Doctrine of Fascism says the Fascist disdains an easy life, prays for the grace to love suffering, and the life of a Fascist is Religious and austere.

Disdain for an easy life is necessary to get ahead sometimes. It requires sacrifice to get a degree, unleash your full potential with employment, or truly be responsible. Resistance and austerity builds strength.

If you love suffering, you will be more strong, because suffering, humiliation, disappointment, sickness, and death is inevitable.


The life of a Fascist is religious. I know that countless drug addicts swear that they would never have been able to get sober without Religion.

But anyway, I think you can't really argue that most of the virtues Fascism extols , promotes, and defends ( that I mentioned ), can strengthen people, and strengthen society as a whole.

A lot of what Fascism promotes is healthy. The Doctrine of Fascism promotes no hatred or racism. The Bible and Qur'an does however. So Fascism is the more peaceful religious concept of the three in it's essence.

Fascism was promoted in the Scriptures. God never inspired a Democracy in Israel. It was totalitarian, nationalist, militant, patriotic, Right wing Jingoism, Theocracy,( too extreme even for me. Mussolini's Italy was lax in comparison). It was an absolute monarchy with an anointed leader selected by God.

They didn't call it "Fascism" but it had absolutely every qualification for being a Fascist State. If America decided to live like God's government found in Scripture, everyone and their grandmother would call it a Fascist Dictatorship.

So, the Bible is a Fascist book, and Yahweh is extremely Fascist in all but name. I don't like the Bible as a general rule, but it still influences more people than any book by far and is still the best seller year after year.

I don't really see Fascism as having been a failure.
Mussolini errored thinking he needed to enter the war on Hitler's side to create an antibolshivek block, and be Caesar of a 20th century Roman Empire, to defend the west from the errors of Communism and militant secularism.

He made a mistake and deserved to lose that war. ( But he was also found innocent of war crimes.).

But Democracies make mistakes and lose wars too. Mussolini's error in judgement was no more a reflection of Fascism than genocide of Indians or slavery is a reflection of Democracy in America.

Besides, Democracy is mob rule. If 90% of the people decide crystal Meth, prostitution, pedophilia, and driving while extremely drunk should be legal, that doesn't mean it should be.

Also, Fascism can suck too. Don't get me wrong.

It depends on if the leader is an enlightened, benevolent genius!


The only problem I see in this Fascism you speak of is HUMANS. I'll leave it at that.
 
For something so successful, it is interesting that Fascism isn't much of a thing today.

Your post seems to work real hard to justify why something that is in favor in no places, was a rousing success. Typically success leads to something expanding, not disappearing.
 
For something so successful, it is interesting that Fascism isn't much of a thing today.

Your post seems to work real hard to justify why something that is in favor in no places, was a rousing success. Typically success leads to something expanding, not disappearing.

Fascist practices and philosophy are actually very common. Although being spiritual doesn't make you Fascist, Spirituality and Religion are very Fascist qualities.

Choosing to make sacrifices, do penance, and carry the cross (loving suffering) for a noble cause is a very fascist quality.

Discipline and patriotism are Fascist qualities.

Russia and Hungary are moderate Fascist states.

The virtues of Fascism are alive...A lot of conservative Christians are Fascist, they just don't call themselves that.

We just had the Capitol stormed , the walls scaled, windows broken, government buildings invaded to keep Trump in power. You don't think Fascism isn't alive and well in America?

There are increasing amounts of far right victories in Europe.

Mussolini's place of birth and tomb receive hundreds of thousands of visitors every year and there is talk about needing a Fascist museum at where he was born. His face is appearing on Wine bottles and action figures of him sold even at stores like Wal mart. New books are being written about him.

Fascist relics which were once illegal are now sold in large quantities.

Fascism doesn't necessarily mean no one votes.
 
We just had the Capitol stormed , the walls scaled, windows broken, government buildings invaded to keep Trump in power. You don't think Fascism isn't alive and well in America?

Ah yes, but fascism is "peaceful", somehow. Mask went off pretty quickly there, eh?
 
We just had the Capitol stormed , the walls scaled, windows broken, government buildings invaded to keep Trump in power. You don't think Fascism isn't alive and well in America?
You got it half right - think fascism is alive in America, but it is clearly not well in any sense of the word.
 
We just had the Capitol stormed , the walls scaled, windows broken, government buildings invaded to keep Trump in power. You don't think Fascism isn't alive and well in America?

Ah yes, but fascism is "peaceful", somehow. Mask went off pretty quickly there, eh?

You misunderstood me. I said it has a nonviolent essence and intrinsic nature. I said in practice , especially when threatened with the errors of Communism, it is not peaceful in practice.
 
We just had the Capitol stormed , the walls scaled, windows broken, government buildings invaded to keep Trump in power. You don't think Fascism isn't alive and well in America?

Ah yes, but fascism is "peaceful", somehow. Mask went off pretty quickly there, eh?

You misunderstood me. I said it has a nonviolent essence and intrinsic nature. I said in practice , especially when threatened with the errors of Communism, it is not peaceful in practice.
Well, at least here you have said something of at least a little substance (from a little reading of your other posts). Well since that alt-right mob that attacked the capital, was attacking US Democracy, and not some imagined boogieman called 'communism'; then, if this is fascism, it does seem to be intrinsically violent...
 
I said in practice... it {fascism} is not peaceful in practice.
Odd, you don't lead with that.

Fascism is peaceful after the mass arrests, hangings, and genocide of course.

My form of Fascism is. I do little things with great love for the Caesar, the Kami , and the Holy Roman Empire. I make sacrifices. I pray there be no more atheism and that all people be enlightened. I enshrine Pictures of Mussolini and we help each other evolve and rehabilitate.

What harm does that do?

Mussolini wasn't just bad. He did a lot of good things. He needs our prayers.portrait-of-benito-mussolini.jpg
 
You misunderstood me. I said it has a nonviolent essence and intrinsic nature. I said in practice , especially when threatened with the errors of Communism, it is not peaceful in practice.
Well, at least here you have said something of at least a little substance (from a little reading of your other posts). Well since that alt-right mob that attacked the capital, was attacking US Democracy, and not some imagined boogieman called 'communism'; then, if this is fascism, it does seem to be intrinsically violent...

Some Fascists perceive Biden to be Communist
 
I said in practice... it {fascism} is not peaceful in practice.
Odd, you don't lead with that.

Fascism is peaceful after the mass arrests, hangings, and genocide of course.

My form of Fascism is.
You be talking a lot about Mussolini, not yourself.

I do little things with great love for the Caesar, the Kami , and the Holy Roman Empire. I make sacrifices. I pray there be no more atheism and that all people be enlightened. I enshrine Pictures of Mussolini and we help each other evolve and rehabilitate.

What harm does that do?
To society or your sex life?

Mussolini wasn't just bad. He did a lot of good things. He needs our prayers.View attachment 31512
He is quite dead.
 
You misunderstood me. I said it has a nonviolent essence and intrinsic nature. I said in practice , especially when threatened with the errors of Communism, it is not peaceful in practice.
Well, at least here you have said something of at least a little substance (from a little reading of your other posts). Well since that alt-right mob that attacked the capital, was attacking US Democracy, and not some imagined boogieman called 'communism'; then, if this is fascism, it does seem to be intrinsically violent...

Some Fascists perceive Biden to be Communist

But he is also Catholic! Isn't that more preferred than us knuckle walking atheist's? How do you define communism?
 
My form of Fascism is.

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