This week's top woke fauxgressive idiot

[Metaphor]

Oh damn. Where’s that violin? Must have left it in my other shirt.

I'm guessing you are white. Only white people have the privilege of casual violin transport via shirts.

 

[Elixir]

 

[Jarhyn]

You've never heard of the individual, because she's a nobody. But she's espousing an ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions.

'Fess up, and admit it's a joke, Metaphor! An "ideology that is not only prominent, it has captured entire institutions" and the best demonstration you can find for this prominent institutional capture is "a nobody." Did the incongruity of this amuse you as you were typing?

There are so many Metaphor posts that would sit quite well in r/selfawarewolves if not for the fact that the sub is for reddit posts in particular.

 

[laughing dog]

You gave no examples that disproved it. Calling an attitude ubiquitous does not mean that every single person in the world shares it. If I said 'sleeping in beds in the US is ubiquitous', I am not disproved because you find some people who sleep on couches.

Please stop repeating your pathetic pedantic excuses. You wrote
"Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous, except in the closed circle meetings of white supremacists planning violent acts.” I gave examples that explicitly showed the bold-faced part as false. Which makes your claim false. Duh.

Promoting false and dangerous ideas will lead to negative outcomes. You may disagree about my evaluation of CRT but I can hardly imagine why you would disagree with that sentence.

I didn't disagree with that sentence. What on earth are you one about now?

The evidence has been presented regularly over years - regular threads documenting the insidious spread and effect of Woke ideologies across the English speaking western world.

Hyperbolic screeds are, at best, anecdotal evidence. BTW, "Woke" and "CRT" are not synonymous.

 

[Derec]

BTW, "Woke" and "CRT" are not synonymous.

No, but the Venn diagram of them has a huge overlap.

 

[Derec]

Right now, the US is going through the last gasps of white people (mostly men) losing power.

If white people (especially men) have any power, that's obviously bad. According to CRT, all white people must lose all power and all power should reside in women and so-called "POC".
White people should not even be allowed to wear mittens on a cold Winter day.

 

[laughing dog]

Right now, the US is going through the last gasps of white people (mostly men) losing power.

If white people (especially men) have any power, that's obviously bad. According to CRT, all white people must lose all power and all power should reside in women and so-called "POC".
White people should not even be allowed to wear mittens on a cold Winter day.

If you are trying to be funny, it isn't working. If you are serious, your comments are ridiculous.

 

[Derec]

Merit isn't racist. Merit is classist.

It is neither.

A great deal of what passes for merit is advantage and dumb luck.

No, it isn't.

someone who has taught in the public schools of NC and worked as a private tutor, I can assure you, those test scores you vaunt as evidence of merit are in most cases evidence of extra hours of tutoring, parents with the money to expose their children to greater learning experiences, and students who, for whatever reason, caught the attention of their teachers in such a way as to make those teachers take an interest in those students.

And yet not all people are equally as good at things as others. How they came to be good - a combination of nature and nurture for sure - is secondary to the fact that there are differences in ability. And by the way, things like tutoring are not a substitute for actually putting in the work to learn the material, master skills etc.

What is the alternative to merit? Should college or medical school admissions not look at individual merit but assign spots based on a lottery, i.e. random chance? Should the same be true for companies hiring people?

There is a big difference in say basketball skills based on race. And yet nobody is claiming that merit in basketball playing is irrelevant or that there should be "affirmative action" in NBA because NBA rosters should "look like America". But for some reason, when it comes to something much more important such as medicine, merit is treated as secondary to identity politics.

 

[Derec]

If you are trying to be funny, it isn't working. If you are serious, your comments are ridiculous.

You are the one reveling in the future where white men lose all power in the US.

 

[Metaphor]

Please stop repeating your pathetic pedantic excuses. You wrote
"Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous, except in the closed circle meetings of white supremacists planning violent acts.” I gave examples that explicitly showed the bold-faced part as false. Which makes your claim false. Duh.

No, you didn't give evidence that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Hyperbolic screeds are, at best, anecdotal evidence. BTW, "Woke" and "CRT" are not synonymous.

I know.

 

[laughing dog]

Please stop repeating your pathetic pedantic excuses. You wrote
"Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous, except in the closed circle meetings of white supremacists planning violent acts.” I gave examples that explicitly showed the bold-faced part as false. Which makes your claim false. Duh.

No, you didn't give evidence that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Hyperbolic screeds are, at best, anecdotal evidence. BTW, "Woke" and "CRT" are not synonymous.

I know.

Sure Jan, whatever allows you to save face.

 

[laughing dog]

If you are trying to be funny, it isn't working. If you are serious, your comments are ridiculous.

You are the one reveling in the future where white men lose all power in the US.

I have never said white men will lose all power. Nor do I "revel" in such things. So, what on earth are you on about?

 

[Derec]

The idea behind calling Bernie Sanders' outfit an instance of white/male privilege isn't to demand that he, or white people in general, stop wearing mittens - it is to remind readers that a woman or black person sitting in his place, instead of becoming glorified in a meme, might well have been criticized for their unprofessional or "ghetto" posture.

Mittens and a winter coat are "ghetto"?
If somebody had showed up in actual "ghetto" getup - a sideways fitted cap, FuBu hoodie, gold chain of a huge-ass variety, garish sneakers, optional pants hanging below the buttocks etc., they'd be made fun of no matter their race. But if somebody black had showed up in "ghetto" gear the same people calling Bernie's outfit "white supremacy" would be yelling that it was "racist" to criticize anybody black for wearing what they choose to wear.

That contention may not be accurate, but at any rate it is dishonest to pretend that the author wants to bar white people from wearing mittens.

It's not only not accurate, it is ridiculous. But at the same time, I do not see how you could read that teacher/principal's claims without concluding that she thinks that white people like Bernie should not wear mittens to the Inauguration.

You know, when it used to be an (explicit, legally codified) white privilege to sit in the front of the bus, civil rights activists didn't want to force whites to sit in the back either - they wanted the right to sit in the front opened to everyone.

That's the difference between genuine civil rights supporters and the woke/CRT/BLM/Antifa activists today. They have virtually nothing in common. People like that teacher are the spiritual descendants of Black Panthers/Black Liberation Army/Weather Underground. That's why they worship extremist cop killers like JoAnne Chesimard (fake name: Assata Shakur).

In the same way, saying (whether right or wrong) that wearing mittens and casual clothing at a ceremony like that is a white privilege doesn't translate to demanding that whites should be stopped from doing it; almost the opposite, it means we should stop scrutinizing non-white people who do the same or similar things, stop calling them unprofessional/ghetto/poorly adapted to life in America over a personal choice of clothing.

Who is doing that? I think you and ISO are knocking down straw men of your own creation. If a black or female guest showed up in winter coat and mittens, do you really think anybody would call them "unprofessional"?
When Kamala Harris sported canvas sneakers on the campaign trail for example, the response was universally positive. Nobody attacked her for it.

I general black people can get away with more than white people when it comes to clothes/hair etc. Prime example being that blacks can wear their hair long even in settings where short hair is mandated for white people. And if somebody tries to enforce hair rules on black people they get accused of "racism".

 

[Derec]

have never said white men will lose all power. Nor do I "revel" in such things. So, what on earth are you on about?

I don't know what you said (I never heard you speak) but you did write it. And your tone was very gleeful.

 

[Keith&Co.]

No, you didn't give evidenceconvine me that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Probably more accurate.

 

[Metaphor]

No, you didn't give evidenceconvine me that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Probably more accurate.

Saying sleeping in beds is ubiquitous in the United States is not disproven by finding homeless people sleeping on park benches.

laughing dog chose a particular denotation of 'ubiquitous' to attempt to win a ridiculous point.

Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous in the United States. Hell, it is even present within white supremacist circles by 'separatist' white supremacists.

 

[laughing dog]

No, you didn't give evidenceconvine me that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Probably more accurate.

Saying sleeping in beds is ubiquitous in the United States is not disproven by finding homeless people sleeping on park benches.

laughing dog chose a particular denotation of 'ubiquitous' to attempt to win a ridiculous point.

Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous in the United States. Hell, it is even present within white supremacist circles by 'separatist' white supremacists.

I used a well-understood denotation of the term. It is just as reasonable to say you choose a particular denotation of "ubiquitous" to make a ridiculous point.

 

[laughing dog]

have never said white men will lose all power. Nor do I "revel" in such things. So, what on earth are you on about?

I don't know what you said (I never heard you speak) but you did write it. And your tone was very gleeful.

Please refresh my memory by pointing to my post where you believe I gleefully said white men will lose all power.

 

[Keith&Co.]

No, you didn't give evidenceconvine me that it wasn't ubiquitous.

Probably more accurate.

Saying sleeping in beds is ubiquitous in the United States is not disproven by finding homeless people sleeping on park benches.

i would agree with that.

laughing dog chose a particular denotation of 'ubiquitous' to attempt to win a ridiculous point.
Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous in the United States.

Nope, it's not. Nowhere near. 'Ubiquitous' is either a gross exaggeration or just fucking ignorant in this usage.
Time after time, white supremacists are tolerated or even encouraged by elected officials, up to and recently including the Oval Office. Lawmakers at every level have resisted attempts to limit their power or influence, protected their members, and calldd OFF the cops.
What we've seen over yhe last 4 years is that classifying white supremacy as a problem we used to have is one of those lies Americans told ourselves.
It wasn't even that far under the surface.

 

[Metaphor]

Saying sleeping in beds is ubiquitous in the United States is not disproven by finding homeless people sleeping on park benches.

laughing dog chose a particular denotation of 'ubiquitous' to attempt to win a ridiculous point.

Opposition to violent white supremacy is ubiquitous in the United States. Hell, it is even present within white supremacist circles by 'separatist' white supremacists.

I used a well-understood denotation of the term. It is just as reasonable to say you choose a particular denotation of "ubiquitous" to make a ridiculous point.

I used it to mean 'very widespread', and I stand by that usage, since 'widespread' is in fact a dictionary-listed synonym for 'ubiquitous'.

But perhaps you think that opposition to violent white supremacy is not widespread. That some fraction of the population does not oppose violent white supremacy, and that fraction is large enough to exclude the descriptor 'widespread'. Do you think that?