Idiot puts Gorilla Glue in her hair and now wants to sue the company

[Metaphor]

Over on Twitter, there's a thread with people supporting the idea that Gorilla Glue is indeed culpable and should be sued, and the race angle is being highlighted.

https://mobile.twitter.com/exavierpope/status/1358901875303677953

Your link shows one idiot supporting it, with 99% of the replies criticizing him and the idiot who put it in her hair, including almost every one of the many replies by black people who find it both idiotic and the racial angle insulting. Odds are 90% of them are leftists, many of them "woke". So, much for the equally moronic narrative that this has anything to do with any political perspective or group, rather than being what it is, a few people out of 7 billion having a stupid take on something, which is guaranteed by random chance every second of the day.

Calm down. I didn't make a claim that the majority of any group supported the lawsuit. But in America, I think
i) There would be a lawyer willing to take it on
ii) There are enough people with sympathetic views (not just 'a few' people out of 7 billion) who could form a sympathetic jury.

 

[Metaphor]

No. Metaphor is no doubt harping on the race issue as a way of beating his very dead horse he beats in almost every thread about the evils of critical race theory

I take the point. I've been neglecting my antifeminism threads a bit lately.

and how somehow that is to blame for 3 people in 7 billion thinking it has valid application here.

I somehow doubt you polled 7 billion people for their view on this.

Also, the take about frivolous lawsuits rests on the same idiot notion that lone nutjobs or money grabbers bringing suits is a political problem that can somehow be solved. Such suits can only be eliminated (or prevented from even being thought about as the OP demands) via extreme corporatist fascism where corporations are completely shielded from any harm caused by their constant efforts to profit by harming the public.

It's a cultural and a political problem.

 

[RVonse]

I'm going to sue myself for being stupid enough to click on another of Derec's race-bait threads.

 

[Trausti]

And those threads showing white people doing stupid things are racist, too.

Are those other threads persistently from one poster and use derogatory language and imagery? If so, then yes, If not, your response is a thoughtless "whataboutism".

No, it’s hypocrisy. Really, the charge of “whataboutism” is the cudgel of duplicitous charlatans.

 

[RVonse]

Irregardless how many feel about McDonalds or Gorilla glue, America has traded a large amount of manufacturing middle class jobs for the ability of legal leaches and ambulance chasers to win lotteries. Some of those lotteries may have been justified for the individual involved. But all of them collectively have been directly responsible for a general decline in productivity. A general decline of middle class wages and a huge loss of industry in this country. You do not get one thing without sacrificing the other.

Honestly, I do not think it was worth it for the majority of the population. The cost (loss of high value jobs) was not worth the lawyer benefit for most of the people. There should be a much higher bar to sue anyone. And we should focus our colleges and trade schools towards the jobs which actually produce things to improve everyone's lives.

 

[Keith&Co.]

But all of them collectively have been directly responsible for a general decline in productivity. A general decline of middle class wages and a huge loss of industry in this country. You do not get one thing without sacrificing the other.

How does that work, this trade?
MacD's has one franchise breaking their own rules on coffee, they lose one day's profits on the sale of coffee (which was the actual basis gor the award), and they fired....who?

The coffee jobs didn't go away, nor were they shipped over seas. McD's had money left over to pay firms to try to convince certain voters that the y were victimized, or to lobby for tort reform....which is an increase in jobs....

What jobs were lost?

Or what other lawsuits do you have actual data to connect jury awards to job loss? Because this sounds like the kind of story corporate America wants you to accept uncritically.... for their benefit, not yours.

 

[laughing dog]

And those threads showing white people doing stupid things are racist, too.

Are those other threads persistently from one poster and use derogatory language and imagery? If so, then yes, If not, your response is a thoughtless "whataboutism".

No, it’s hypocrisy. Really, the charge of “whataboutism” is the cudgel of duplicitous charlatans.

I disagree. Your response could be an example of hypocrisy but that would require evidence that you hold a double standard on that use. On the other hand, "whataboutism" simply requires a lack of focus or intellectual dishonesty. Now, failure to recognize "whataboutism" is evidence of low intelligence or ideological blindness. or perhaps, a genetic defect.

 

[RVonse]

But all of them collectively have been directly responsible for a general decline in productivity. A general decline of middle class wages and a huge loss of industry in this country. You do not get one thing without sacrificing the other.

How does that work, this trade?
MacD's has one franchise breaking their own rules on coffee, they lose one day's profits on the sale of coffee (which was the actual basis gor the award), and they fired....who?

The coffee jobs didn't go away, nor were they shipped over seas. McD's had money left over to pay firms to try to convince certain voters that the y were victimized, or to lobby for tort reform....which is an increase in jobs....

What jobs were lost?

Or what other lawsuits do you have actual data to connect jury awards to job loss? Because this sounds like the kind of story corporate America wants you to accept uncritically.... for their benefit, not yours.

Maybe not McDonalds but the fear and lessons learned for everyone else is there. The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay. I happen to work in the steel industry which is a very dangerous industry and has always been very dangerous. People get hurt and die all the time but the the trade off is high paying jobs. The corporation I work has to do so many mandatory safety briefings which are nothing more than an expense for the company and pain in the butt for the rest of us. The corporations legal policy is that all accidents can be prevented but the truth of the matter is that freak stuff can and does happen and it would not make any difference. Some jobs simply can not be done by wearing the protections for those tasks to be perfectly safe. But the corporation requires all the safety training and/or bureaucracy in order to protect their legal backsides.

Repeat this process throughout all industry and it becomes cheaper to just move out.

To be clear. I'm not saying corporations should not pay close attention to safe work practices and the general well being of its workforce. But the pendulum has swung so far towards run away lawsuits and unlimited liability, that no one wants to do anything in America anymore. The cost does not justify the benefit for those producers.

 

[Trausti]

No, it’s hypocrisy. Really, the charge of “whataboutism” is the cudgel of duplicitous charlatans.

I disagree. Your response could be an example of hypocrisy but that would require evidence that you hold a double standard on that use. On the other hand, "whataboutism" simply requires a lack of focus or intellectual dishonesty. Now, failure to recognize "whataboutism" is evidence of low intelligence or ideological blindness. or perhaps, a genetic defect.

Can’t defend your position so you resort to alleging someone has a genetic defect. Duplicitous indeed, LD.

 

[Trausti]

But all of them collectively have been directly responsible for a general decline in productivity. A general decline of middle class wages and a huge loss of industry in this country. You do not get one thing without sacrificing the other.

How does that work, this trade?
MacD's has one franchise breaking their own rules on coffee, they lose one day's profits on the sale of coffee (which was the actual basis gor the award), and they fired....who?

The coffee jobs didn't go away, nor were they shipped over seas. McD's had money left over to pay firms to try to convince certain voters that the y were victimized, or to lobby for tort reform....which is an increase in jobs....

What jobs were lost?

Or what other lawsuits do you have actual data to connect jury awards to job loss? Because this sounds like the kind of story corporate America wants you to accept uncritically.... for their benefit, not yours.

Maybe not McDonalds but the fear and lessons learned for everyone else is there. The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay. I happen to work in the steel industry which is a very dangerous industry and has always been very dangerous. People get hurt and die all the time but the the trade off is high paying jobs. The corporation I work has to do so many mandatory safety briefings which are nothing more than an expense for the company and pain in the butt for the rest of us. The corporations legal policy is that all accidents can be prevented but the truth of the matter is that freak stuff can and does happen and it would not make any difference. Some jobs simply can not be done by wearing the protections for those tasks to be perfectly safe. But the corporation requires all the safety training and/or bureaucracy in order to protect their legal backsides.

Repeat this process throughout all industry and it becomes cheaper to just move out.

To be clear. I'm not saying corporations should not pay close attention to safe work practices and the general well being of its workforce. But the pendulum has swung so far towards run away lawsuits and unlimited liability, that no one wants to do anything in America anymore. The cost does not justify the benefit for those producers.

Your work safety training is different, as your employer should be paying for workers compensation insurance. But the employer can be fined by the state for unsafe practices.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Maybe not McDonalds but the fear and lessons learned for everyone else is there. The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay.

Cite? Or just something you heard and accept uncritically?

I happen to work in the steel industry which is a very dangerous industry and has always been very dangerous. People get hurt and die all the time but the the trade off is high paying jobs. The corporation I work has to do so many mandatory safety briefings which are nothing more than an expense for the company and pain in the butt for the rest of us.

If all these people are getting hurt, where are the lawyers getting lottery payouts?

The corporations legal policy is that all accidents can be prevented but the truth of the matter is that freak stuff can and does happen and it would not make any difference. Some jobs simply can not be done by wearing the protections for those tasks to be perfectly safe. But the corporation requires all the safety training and/or bureaucracy in order to protect their legal backsides.

so... you're saying the safety training is actually worth while for the company, not just an expense with nothing to show for it.

Repeat this process throughout all industry and it becomes cheaper to just move out.

Then why bother with the safety training? If it just becomes too expensive to profit, there shoild be no industry in the US at all.

To be clear. I'm not saying corporations should not pay close attention to safe work practices and the general well being of its workforce. But the pendulum has swung so far towards run away lawsuits and unlimited liability, that no one wants to do anything in America anymore. The cost does not justify the benefit for those producers.

You SAY that, but we still have industry. And safety standdowns. And lawyers. So it cannot be as dire as you try to paint it.
If costs a re not justified, we don't have a business model, but a suicide pact.

 

[Gospel]

I feel like an ass for not stating the obvious. Sure I think putting gorilla glue on your scalp is asinine, but I still feel remorse for any suffering Tessica Brown is going through. She's a person at the end of the day.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I feel like an ass for not stating the obvious. Sure I think putting gorilla glue on your scalp is asinine, but I still feel remorse for any suffering Tessica Brown is going through. She's a person at the end of the day.

Why does she wait that long?

 

[Gospel]

I feel like an ass for not stating the obvious. Sure I think putting gorilla glue on your scalp is asinine, but I still feel remorse for any suffering Tessica Brown is going through. She's a person at the end of the day.

Why does she wait that long?

If I were to make an assumption, (and that's exactly what this reply is) self-reliance? Maybe a mix of shame as well; ya know not wanting anyone to be unnecessarily made aware of the issue if it's something she can resolve overtime on her own? Sure a month seems like a long time but it's possible the discomfort was not enough (being that some black woman or hella tough) to cause alarm. A month can go by very quickly depending on the person and events. Are you the God of time & events or something?

 

[Keith&Co.]

No. You said she's a person at the end of the day.
Thst's always, like, one of the first things i do.

 

[Gospel]

Understood. That's like one of the first things I think everyone knows without having to provide evidence.

 

[Keith&Co.]

The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay.

According to the Cessna wiki page, they lost sales during a global recession. No mention of lawsuits. Lay-offs.

They also made some shortcuts in making fiberglass components. Their QA did not catch the problem, resulting in an FAA agent watching a 7-foot section of wing delaminate during flight. This and a few other mistakes not caught by QA resulted in an FAA fine of $2.4 million.
Seems to me, if you're putting shoddy parts in fucking airplanes, and grt caught by the government doing so, the tort industry is not the main problem.

Anyway, Cessna was bought up by anothercompany and is now a brand mostly making planes in China.


That's not at all the story you related....

 

[Keith&Co.]

Understood.

Hmmmmm

That's like one of the first things I think everyone knows without having to provide evidence.

knows, yes. I was asking why she does that.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

I would sue my local zoo. Certainly gorillas should know better.

You are comparing Tessica to a gorilla, you racist you.

No. But I might see a sign on my next trip to Lowes, kinda like those signs we saw with hand sanitizer after Orange suggested putting it into our lungs. She and Orange are kindred spirits.

 

[RVonse]

Maybe not McDonalds but the fear and lessons learned for everyone else is there. The small aircraft industry has been decimated by lawsuits, cessna and piper were both destroyed by suits they could not pay. I happen to work in the steel industry which is a very dangerous industry and has always been very dangerous. People get hurt and die all the time but the the trade off is high paying jobs. The corporation I work has to do so many mandatory safety briefings which are nothing more than an expense for the company and pain in the butt for the rest of us. The corporations legal policy is that all accidents can be prevented but the truth of the matter is that freak stuff can and does happen and it would not make any difference. Some jobs simply can not be done by wearing the protections for those tasks to be perfectly safe. But the corporation requires all the safety training and/or bureaucracy in order to protect their legal backsides.

Repeat this process throughout all industry and it becomes cheaper to just move out.

To be clear. I'm not saying corporations should not pay close attention to safe work practices and the general well being of its workforce. But the pendulum has swung so far towards run away lawsuits and unlimited liability, that no one wants to do anything in America anymore. The cost does not justify the benefit for those producers.

Your work safety training is different, as your employer should be paying for workers compensation insurance. But the employer can be fined by the state for unsafe practices.

I can not prove it but I am pretty sure they do it in order to get insurance. But regardless, at the end of the day people getting hurt cost money. And people that get hurt and winning lottery judgements cost a LOT of money. Like I have said before, I'm not all against safety. But when someone does get hurt, paying excessive judgement does have a cost burden to the overall economic viability of that industry. Especially if it happens again and again. And it should be viewed that way even for liberals.