Should diner owners be forced to make interracial marriage celebration milkshakes?

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Imagine a scenario like this:

It is 1960's Mississippi. A white man and a black woman are dating. He has proposed and she has said yes.

So they decide to go to the diner to celebrate and get milkshakes. They do not walk in right at the same time and she heads to the restroom because she has to go bad unbeknownst to the employees who just didn't notice by coincidence.

The white man sits at the counter and says, "Two milkshakes please. I'm celebrating." The white male employee behind the counter starts getting the ingredients and then asks, "hey what you celebrating?" Then the white man at the counter waiting for the milkshakes says, "I'm gettin' married."

Just then, the young black woman walks out of the restroom and sits right down next to the white man and they start flirting and talking, making it clear they came in together. The white male employee makes a correct inference that they are the ones celebrating the marriage to-be and it's interracial!!

Should the diner be forced to make the interracial marriage celebration milkshakes?

 

[Politesse]

In Mississippi in 1960? "Should" wouldn't matter, they straight up couldn't be forced to make interracial marriage celebration milkshakes, and I'm certain they would not.

But they would be obliged to now. And that's a good thing.

 

[Patooka]

Typical SJW leftist. Free Market rules blah blah socialism is teh bad!!!!!!!!oneoneone.

In other words, what you are proposing is censorship and Big Government (tm) should stay out of the restaurant industry.

 

[Metaphor]

Don2 has me on ignore, and yet I live rent-free in his head.

 

[jonatha]

This is a bad analogy for the lesbian-gay-interfaith wedding cake controversy.

Milkshakes are a commodity; decorated cakes are bespoke.

 

[Lumpenproletariat]

Imagine a scenario like this:

It is 1960's Mississippi. A white man and a black woman are dating. He has proposed and she has said yes.

So they decide to go to the diner to celebrate and get milkshakes. They do not walk in right at the same time and she heads to the restroom because she has to go bad unbeknownst to the employees who just didn't notice by coincidence.

The white man sits at the counter and says, "Two milkshakes please. I'm celebrating." The white male employee behind the counter starts getting the ingredients and then asks, "hey what you celebrating?" Then the white man at the counter waiting for the milkshakes says, "I'm gettin' married."

Just then, the young black woman walks out of the restroom and sits right down next to the white man and they start flirting and talking, making it clear they came in together. The white male employee makes a correct inference that they are the ones celebrating the marriage to-be and it's interracial!!

Should the diner be forced to make the interracial marriage celebration milkshakes?

It should be required to sell the same product to them regardless what they're celebrating.

It should not be required to provide "interracial marriage" decoration on the product, or any other decoration it objects to. But it could provide decorations of any kind it wants to provide, at its discretion.

 

[untermensche]

This is a bad analogy for the lesbian-gay-interfaith wedding cake controversy.

Milkshakes are a commodity; decorated cakes are bespoke.

What if a tailor said they would not make a suit for an interracial marriage?

 

[repoman]

"Purebred Milkshakes: We are not 'Down With the Swirl' "

 

[KeepTalking]

Imagine a scenario like this:

It is 1960's Mississippi. A white man and a black woman are dating. He has proposed and she has said yes.

So they decide to go to the diner to celebrate and get milkshakes. They do not walk in right at the same time and she heads to the restroom because she has to go bad unbeknownst to the employees who just didn't notice by coincidence.

The white man sits at the counter and says, "Two milkshakes please. I'm celebrating." The white male employee behind the counter starts getting the ingredients and then asks, "hey what you celebrating?" Then the white man at the counter waiting for the milkshakes says, "I'm gettin' married."

Just then, the young black woman walks out of the restroom and sits right down next to the white man and they start flirting and talking, making it clear they came in together. The white male employee makes a correct inference that they are the ones celebrating the marriage to-be and it's interracial!!

Should the diner be forced to make the interracial marriage celebration milkshakes?

It should be required to sell the same product to them regardless what they're celebrating.

It should not be required to provide "interracial marriage" decoration on the product, or any other decoration it objects to. But it could provide decorations of any kind it wants to provide, at its discretion.

What if the diner sells half and half milkshakes, and the customer ordered half chocolate, half vanilla milkshakes, commenting that such a milkshake symbolizes their inter-racial marriage?

 

[LoAmmo]

What if that milkshake brings all the boys to the yard?

WHAT IF IT'S WHAT THE GUYS GO CRAZY FOR?

 

[Politesse]

What if that milkshake brings all the boys to the yard?

WHAT IF IT'S WHAT THE GUYS GO CRAZY FOR?

In that case, I would advise the shopkeeper to warm it up warm it up lalalalala

 

[Loren Pechtel]

This is a bad analogy for the lesbian-gay-interfaith wedding cake controversy.

Milkshakes are a commodity; decorated cakes are bespoke.

Exactly.

There's also a middle ground here: Products which are customizable within fixed options. I think those should be considered the same as commodity.

If pink cake is offered and blue frosting is offered then they can be compelled to bake a pink & blue cake even if that particular variation had never been ordered before. (And I can even think of a non-transition reason for it: Baby shower where they either don't know the gender or choose not to reveal it if they do know.)

Truly bespoke goods are artistic and I feel an artist should be free to refuse any commission they don't want, even if it's for a reason that is considered socially unjust.