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Guest lecturer at Yale fantasizes about shooting white people in the head

Come on, White people. We only have your best interest at heart. Do not attempt to draw any historical parallels. Do. Not.

Whiteness is a condition one first acquires and then one has—a malignant, parasitic-like condition to which “white” people have a particular susceptibility. The condition is foundational, generating characteristic ways of being in one’s body, in one’s mind, and in one’s world. Parasitic Whiteness renders its hosts’ appetites voracious, insatiable, and perverse. These deformed appetites particularly target nonwhite peoples. Once established, these appetites are nearly impossible to eliminate. Effective treatment consists of a combination of psychic and social-historical interventions. Such interventions can reasonably aim only to reshape Whiteness’s infiltrated appetites—to reduce their intensity, redistribute their aims, and occasionally turn those aims toward the work of reparation. When remembered and represented, the ravages wreaked by the chronic condition can function either as warning (“never again”) or as temptation (“great again”). Memorialization alone, therefore, is no guarantee against regression. There is not yet a permanent cure.
On Having Whiteness

No cure? I don’t know; surely the Woke can come up with a final solution.

Holy fuck. The Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association is pathologizing skin color?

Well, no, that claim is that people who define themselves as "white" first end up pathologizing their skin color - and of trying to pass on the pathologies to other people.

...Which, I mean, "white pride", "white power"...let's be honest, those things suck. To paraphrase James Baldwin, "whiteness" is defined solely as "not black or Native". n if you take that on as your identity, you've effectively hitched your id to nothing positive at all.

Can't say that about, "Black", "Native", Japanese", "Puerto Rican"...or for that matter, "American", "French", or "English"
 
Holy fuck. The Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association is pathologizing skin color?

Well, no, that claim is that people who define themselves as "white" first end up pathologizing their skin color - and of trying to pass on the pathologies to other people.

...Which, I mean, "white pride", "white power"...let's be honest, those things suck. To paraphrase James Baldwin, "whiteness" is defined solely as "not black or Native". n if you take that on as your identity, you've effectively hitched your id to nothing positive at all.

Can't say that about, "Black", "Native", Japanese", "Puerto Rican"...or for that matter, "American", "French", or "English"

Why are you making apologies for this shit?
 
...Which, I mean, "white pride", "white power"...let's be honest, those things suck.
To be honest, so does "black power" and "black pride". The fundamental problem with race relations in this country is this idea that it's not ok calling non-white people on their racism.
 
The other is a strawman argument that exagerates a claim that is more accurately depicting the centuries of pretty bad stuff done by those in power, who were white, and the timeline of said actions didn't just stop in the days of pre-history, but go up easily into the 1970s and 1980s for Blacks in America.

It is not a strawman argument, it is the central axiom of the so-called "Critical Race Theory" (aka "Whites are Bad, Mkay Theory") which is the dominant dogma among woke academicians.
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.

Do you think there's a problem with a woman who hates white people ministering to the mental health of white people?
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.

Since you check both lists, I will take your word for it.
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.

Since you check both lists, I will take your word for it.

How many black people and Jews have you envisioned shooting in the head?
 
Individuals can also be members of groups.

If you belong to the KKK that says something about you.

If you leave the KKK and renounce it that says something else.

If you support 'black lives matter' that says something too.

If you fully support Kaepenick kneeling that says something.

If you think Kaepernick crossed some line that says something.

An individual is judged not only on their ideas but by which groups they freely belong to.

This all makes sense, the only issue some humans seem to have is when someone agrees with a message (aka group) it doesn't mean they agree with every action done by another person who happens to agree with that message (group) too.

But note the inverse--not supporting a group is not the same as opposing the objective of the group.
 
The War on Drugs was so dumb.

I'm not a proponent of legalizing everything under the sun, I think that some drugs are engineered to be too dangerous. But the more naturally occurring things like marijuana, psilocybin, even coca leaves... there's no good reason to have those be illegal - especially not if you compare them to alcohol or tobacco.

That said, I have some very serious reservations about some of the highly concentrated forms of THC that are available now. I don't think they're nearly as harmless as people claim they are. Everyone I know who uses dabs and waxes have lives that are a complete shit-show. I tend to think it's a bit like trying to compare coca leaves to crack cocaine. Same source, but at this point, very much not the same effects.

Note that many of us that support wide legalization do not think the drugs are harmless, but rather that the drugs are less harmful than the drug war.

As far as I'm concerned all the recreational drugs should either be legal or legal by prescription to addicts and without jumping through the sort of hoops we normally attach to the class 2 drugs.
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.

Since you check both lists, I will take your word for it.

What I'm saying is that if we didn't have racism causing us to have so much privilege, then the relative suffering we're all doing wouldn't feel like threats of Holocaust and genocide. Ergo, our suffering is in fact due to racism, which is exactly what what's-her-face said. I don't agree with A LOT of what she had to say, but on this account she appears to be correct and you guys just proved it for her.
 
All of the white suffering we are doing in this thread is an example of the relative suffering due to our position. That's why this feels like a Holocaust and we have to complain that we're being slaughtered.

Since you check both lists, I will take your word for it.

What I'm saying is that if we didn't have racism causing us to have so much privilege, then the relative suffering we're all doing wouldn't feel like threats of Holocaust and genocide. Ergo, our suffering is in fact due to racism, which is exactly what what's-her-face said. I don't agree with A LOT of what she had to say, but on this account she appears to be correct and you guys just proved it for her.

What “suffering”? What specifically? Causing White people to have what privilege? This?

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I wasn't going to post in this thread, but it did make me curious about the woman in question so I read a little bit about her background. Her parents were both from Pakistan, not sure that makes her Black, but then imo, race is a very stupid social construct that I personally hate.

Both of her parents were doctors and she was born in the states, but imo, she was a very privileged child who was able to attend good schools and obtain a couple of graduate degrees, so I find it disturbing that someone like her would make nasty generalizations about all people with a particular skin tones.

As a former health care professional myself, I was appalled to see a medical professional make such judgements about all of her white patients. One of the values that I held as a professional nurse was to never judge my patients. I never judged them based on race, ethnicity, political views, gender, etc. In healthcare, we should always provide good care to all, regardless of any other factors. Nope. I'm not virtue signaling. Just telling it like it's supposed to be. I know not all healthcare professionals maintain that ethic. I know there are racist doctors in the US. I know there are doctors who fat shame or dislike poor people etc. It shouldn't be that way.

The good news, if there is anything good about this story is that Yale has condemned her comments, calling them racist etc. You can google that yourself. If you want to improve things, you don't start by making unfounded judgments about any large group of people. But, to be honest, I've always been a bit suspicious of psych docs, as so many of them seem to have some mental health issues themselves. That's a prejudice of my own, and I try to remind myself not to make assumptions about all of them based on the negative experiences that I've had dealing with a few of them.

The doc has tried to play down the meaning of her words. Yeah okay. What if the situation was reversed and a white doc said that she had fantasies of killing all Black people, making generalizations based on the worst Black people?

While I think it would be better not to give this woman so much attention, she's all over the internet now for better or worse. I just hope some crazy nut doesn't try to harm her just because of the hateful things she has said. There are too many disturbed people who do things like that. It would be better to let her fade away, but after doing a little search, I see that just about every far right nut job has a hard on over this, as it gives them more fodder to condemn someone who dared to criticize white people.

I'm white. I'm not a racist. I don't give a shit what some wealthy, elitist says about people with my skin shade. I won't be a victim and I doubt most people enjoy playing the victim role. I have plenty of Black friends who I love and they love me. We have far more in common than we have differences. Besides that, I love cultural diversity.

The other thing that makes me laugh is this person of color nonsense. My husband always identified as white. He's the grandson of Syrian/Lebanese immigrants. A few years ago, a younger friend of ours told him he was a "person of color". This morning, I jokingly yelled at him, showed him my arm and said, "I'm not white. I'm beige". He showed me his slightly darker arm and I said. "You're a slightly darker shade of beige." I miss MLK. He had the right idea.

So, I hope this woman will do some soul searching and realize that if anything, she is and has always been a very privileged person. Did she just want attention? Who really knows? I do wonder if her white patients know about her lecture and if they still feel comfortable seeing her. Of course, that's not my problem. There are all kinds of weird people in the world. Telling people that you fantasize about shouting them isn't going to help lead us in a better direction. That's just my opinion......we all have those.

LOL.
 
What I'm saying is that if we didn't have racism causing us to have so much privilege, then the relative suffering we're all doing wouldn't feel like threats of Holocaust and genocide. Ergo, our suffering is in fact due to racism, which is exactly what what's-her-face said. I don't agree with A LOT of what she had to say, but on this account she appears to be correct and you guys just proved it for her.

What “suffering”? What specifically? Causing White people to have what privilege? This?

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That is a fake pic or context, IIRC.
 
I wonder if all the pearl clutchers in this thread acted exactly the same way when Liam Neeson admitted to doing something similar...

Search engine says..."Fuck no Patooka you dumb cunt. You have no idea how to fake outrage for out of context quotes."
 
I wonder if all the pearl clutchers in this thread acted exactly the same way when Liam Neeson admitted to doing something similar...

Search engine says..."Fuck no Patooka you dumb cunt. You have no idea how to fake outrage for out of context quotes."

There are at least three major differences between the Liam Neeson story (or at least the one I assume you mean) and this one.

First, Neeson says the feelings arose suddenly after his friend's confession, he says he is not racist and that his anger towards black men lasted about a week before he worked through it. Contrast this with Khilanani's ongoing, admitted hatred of white people and her pathologising of them.

Second, Neeson is not a board-certified psychiatrist ministering to the mental health needs of people he openly hates. Khilanani is.

Third, Neeson is an actor who volunteered this information in an interview. Khilanani is a psychiatrist who was invited and paid by Yale to, as it seems, spend an hour lecturing people about how hateful and mentally diseased white people are.

So, I'll ask you what I've asked other people in this thread (who have yet to respond):

Do you think somebody who openly hates white people should be ministering to their mental health?
 
I wonder if all the pearl clutchers in this thread acted exactly the same way when Liam Neeson admitted to doing something similar...

Search engine says..."Fuck no Patooka you dumb cunt. You have no idea how to fake outrage for out of context quotes."

There are at least three major differences between the Liam Neeson story (or at least the one I assume you mean) and this one.

First, Neeson says the feelings arose suddenly after his friend's confession, he says he is not racist and that his anger towards black men lasted about a week before he worked through it. Contrast this with Khilanani's ongoing, admitted hatred of white people and her pathologising of them.

Second, Neeson is not a board-certified psychiatrist ministering to the mental health needs of people he openly hates. Khilanani is.

Third, Neeson is an actor who volunteered this information in an interview. Khilanani is a psychiatrist who was invited and paid by Yale to, as it seems, spend an hour lecturing people about how hateful and mentally diseased white people are.

So, I'll ask you what I've asked other people in this thread (who have yet to respond):

Do you think somebody who openly hates white people should be ministering to their mental health?

I think hating white people should be mandatory for people who minister mental health. They should also hate men and be critical of anyone who is not trans.
 
Hating white people is the natural reaction to meeting a lot of Trump supporters.

If all you met were Trump supporters you would think white people are the most ignorant and easily deluded animal on the planet.
 
Riff #1:
You know, the problem with white people is that some of them are crazy. Blacks and their problems are cultural, but white people, their problem is that some of them are crazy.

Riff #2:
In the South, Jefferson Davis has statues, while Nelson Mandela is considered a terrorist.
 
Hating white people is the natural reaction to meeting a lot of Trump supporters.

If all you met were Trump supporters you would think white people are the most ignorant and easily deluded animal on the planet.


Do you think somebody who openly hates white people should be ministering to their mental health?
 
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