Believer or not, your epitome of desire, is to be named the Greatest I am.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Believer or not, your epitome of desire, is to be named the Greatest I am.

Religions are tribes. So are the various non-believing tribes.

Tribal leaders and shaman are the ones to be emulated by all of us so that we might become better than they are and depose them.

It’s like Jesus ascending and retiring God by taking the righthand judges’ seat. Jesus, in effect; deposed his father. As things should be in a hierarchical progressive species like ours.

Leaders and shaman are the only ones who can claim being Greatest I am at any given point in time.

Religiously speaking, we want to and are encouraged by scriptures to try to emulate whatever we think of as God.
God’s best-known speaker is analogically, Greatest I am.

Individually speaking, even you were born, instinctively speaking; thinking you were the fittest of your genetic line. In that sense, your ultimate raison d'être and dream, even if you can come up with some other analogy in religious terms; is you want to be known as the greatest at something, including God.

Upon birth, your first thought was, I am.

Your second thought was, where is the Greatest I am so that I might be his friend, and depose him with better justice?

Who are the fittest you are now to compete with, to prove your fitness, is your next enlightenment.

This is all of us seeking idols to emulate and depose the current icon in our chosen competitions.

Jesus asks us to idolize ourselves, loosely of course, by asking us in scriptures, “have ye forgotten that ye are Gods?”

I have not given up my spiritual, religious, or political efforts to be seen as the greatest at something.

I am not Jesus, but I am curious. Have you given up on your religious birth rite to be a god?

That would disappoint Jesus.

Have you given up your genetic birth rite to be the fittest and excel in some field?

That would disappoint your ancestors. They came from nature and nature demonstrably creates for the best possible end.

I see it as a shame when someone stops competing to be the greatest at something.

Regards
DL

 

[Rhea]

Do you have a question to discuss? Or is this just spam preaching? It’s the third time you have posted the identical screed.

 

[steve_bank]

Well, back in the 70s tere was an idea that Jesus spent his early yeras in India and showed up in Plaestine when he was 30.n
One can derive most anything from the sparse gospels and get up on pulpit preaching it. Stock amd trade for Christyians, and apparently nostics as well.\There is no coherent message, morality, or philosphy in the gospels. You can find it all in the OT. He said nothing new out of Jewish tradition, after all he was a Jewish rabbi referring to Jewish prophets and scripture....

Certainly nothing new out of the history of philosophy.
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If Gnostic Christianity does not involve the supernatural and gods, the discussion belongs on secular philosophy.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Do you have a question to discuss? Or is this just spam preaching? It’s the third time you have posted the identical screed.

Do you recognize the truth of the premise?

Regards
DL

 

[Learner]

Believer or not, your epitome of desire, is to be named the Greatest I am.

Religions are tribes. So are the various non-believing tribes.

Tribal leaders and shaman are the ones to be emulated by all of us so that we might become better than they are and depose them.

It’s like Jesus ascending and retiring God by taking the righthand judges’ seat. Jesus, in effect; deposed his father. As things should be in a hierarchical progressive species like ours.

Leaders and shaman are the only ones who can claim being Greatest I am at any given point in time.

If this is what some people preach as opposed to Christianity, in a religious context, one could take this as bordering on some sort of linguistic smokescreen,for some doctrinal mental seeding, of the serpent kind

I suppose GCB, with phrase lines like, "The Greatest I am," "fittest of the fittest," "competing with each other" etc.. What you could be seen here as really saying (depending how one reads it) is not just the Greatest I am but rather:

I am the Greatest!

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Believer or not, your epitome of desire, is to be named the Greatest I am.

Religions are tribes. So are the various non-believing tribes.

Tribal leaders and shaman are the ones to be emulated by all of us so that we might become better than they are and depose them.

It’s like Jesus ascending and retiring God by taking the righthand judges’ seat. Jesus, in effect; deposed his father. As things should be in a hierarchical progressive species like ours.

Leaders and shaman are the only ones who can claim being Greatest I am at any given point in time.

If this is what some people preach as opposed to Christianity, in a religious context, one could take this as bordering on some sort of linguistic smokescreen,for some doctrinal mental seeding, of the serpent kind ;

I suppose GCB, with phrase lines like, "The Greatest I am," "fittest of the fittest," "competing with each other" etc.. What you could be seen here as really saying (depending how one reads it) is not just the Greatest I am but rather:

I am the Greatest!

Are you agreeing with the premise or not.

Are you in the competition [removed]?

Regards
DL

 

[Bronzeage]

Epitome means the average or midpoint, not the maximum.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Epitome means the average or midpoint, not the maximum.

Ok.

The dictionary disagrees.

epitome
[əˈpidəmē]
NOUN
(the epitome of)
a person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type.

Being French, I try to be careful with English.

What is your mother tongue? It does not seem to be English, but do show where your definition came from.

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

The epitome of all epitomes.

 

[Bronzeage]

Epitome means the average or midpoint, not the maximum.

Ok.

The dictionary disagrees.

epitome
[əˈpidəmē]
NOUN
(the epitome of)
a person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type.

Being French, I try to be careful with English.

What is your mother tongue? It does not seem to be English, but do show where your definition came from.

Regards
DL

A perfect example of particular quality or type, would be the average, not the best.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Epitome means the average or midpoint, not the maximum.

Ok.

The dictionary disagrees.

epitome
[əˈpidəmē]
NOUN
(the epitome of)
a person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type.

Being French, I try to be careful with English.

What is your mother tongue? It does not seem to be English, but do show where your definition came from.

Regards
DL

A perfect example of particular quality or type, would be the average, not the best.

Talk to those who write dictionaries if you wish to add your version.

Regards
DL

 

[steve_bank]

The epitome of idiocy this is.

 

[Learner]

Are you agreeing with the premise or not.

In some parts I agree. They exist.

Are you in the competition [removed]

Regards
DL

I understand what you mean here, but I think you must have some incline as to how some Christians (if not all) would likely take this, or as they would see it. The religious viewpoint that 'the competition is a worldy-thing, and that 'the competition' in the first place requires [removed] to be the competitors! Mind you, although not quite the same thing - I have always had that desire in the past, to get out of the rat-race, the stressful work situations and so on.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Are you agreeing with the premise or not.

In some parts I agree. They exist.

Are you in the competition [removed]?

Regards
DL

I understand what you mean here, but I think you must have some incline as to how some Christians (if not all) would likely take this, or as they would see it. The religious viewpoint that 'the competition is a worldy-thing, and that 'the competition' in the first place requires [removed] to be the competitors! Mind you, although not quite the same thing - I have always had that desire in the past, to get out of the rat-race, the stressful work situations and so on.

[removed]

That is always the way when hiding behind a supernatural shield.

They cannot see behind it so lie about what is there.

The crucifixion was also worldly, but Christians have no problem abdicating their own responsibilities for their worldly sins and putting them on an innocent victim.

Regards
DL

 

[Learner]

[remoed]
That is always the way when hiding behind a supernatural shield.

They cannot see behind it so lie about what is there.

Everyone that you personally met? I would anyhow agree to some extent, a large number no doubt (the bible says there'd be this too).

There are indeed liars and hypocrites who wear the Christian guise. The Financially successful for example ( like prosperity churches) that the Gospels warn us about, seem to use a decieving competition method, being in a "fittest of the fittest" mode, so to speak. Yes some Christians agree with you.

The crucifixion was also worldly, but Christians have no problem abdicating their own responsibilities for their worldly sins and putting them on an innocent victim.

Regards
DL

They have no problem because they are very thankful , understanding that Jesus did what He thought He had to do.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

[removed]

That is always the way when hiding behind a supernatural shield.

They cannot see behind it so lie about what is there.

Everyone that you personally met? I would anyhow agree to some extent, a large number no doubt (the bible says there'd be this too).

There are indeed liars and hypocrites who wear the Christian guise. The Financially successful for example ( like prosperity churches) that the Gospels warn us about, seem to use a decieving competition method, being in a "fittest of the fittest" mode, so to speak. Yes some Christians agree with you.

The crucifixion was also worldly, but Christians have no problem abdicating their own responsibilities for their worldly sins and putting them on an innocent victim.

Regards
DL

They have no problem because they are very thankful , understanding that Jesus did what He thought He had to do.

What they think he did or had to do goes against what every court in all lands try to do. Punish the guilty instead of the innocent.

Further, forgiveness belongs to the victim and not some genocidal god who cannot be hurt by us and who has never been shown to exist.

That is serious hypocrisy and self delusion.

Ever try to get a Christian to argue his moral position? They run like the moral cowards they are.

Regards
DL

 

[Learner]

Everyone that you personally met? I would anyhow agree to some extent, a large number no doubt (the bible says there'd be this too).

There are indeed liars and hypocrites who wear the Christian guise. The Financially successful for example ( like prosperity churches) that the Gospels warn us about, seem to use a decieving competition method, being in a "fittest of the fittest" mode, so to speak. Yes some Christians agree with you.



They have no problem because they are very thankful , understanding that Jesus did what He thought He had to do.

What they think he did or had to do goes against what every court in all lands try to do. Punish the guilty instead of the innocent.

We are seeing from two different perspectives here, (religiously opposite sides perhaps). Also you speak of the innocence of Jesus as if it were the Christians, His followers, "who were the ones condeming and finding Him guilty."

Putting ones sins on Jesus was not the harmful element that killed Him. Jesus took those sins UPON Him, whilst being crucified by the harmful acts of those who were against Him.

Further, forgiveness belongs to the victim and not some genocidal god who cannot be hurt by us and who has never been shown to exist.

That is serious hypocrisy and self delusion.

Ever try to get a Christian to argue his moral position? They run like the moral cowards they are.

Regards
DL

The worldly competition, the fittest of the fittest IS the production-factory of genocide.

If we are better morally than the bibical God from what you've read and understand, then your competition, fittest of the fittest, serpent-philosophy, is a morality contradiction.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We are seeing from two different perspectives here, (religiously opposite sides perhaps). Also you speak of the innocence of Jesus as if it were the Christians, His followers, "who were the ones condeming and finding Him guilty."

Putting ones sins on Jesus was not the harmful element that killed Him. Jesus took those sins UPON Him, whilst being crucified by the harmful acts of those who were against Him.

Further, forgiveness belongs to the victim and not some genocidal god who cannot be hurt by us and who has never been shown to exist.

That is serious hypocrisy and self delusion.

Ever try to get a Christian to argue his moral position? They run like the moral cowards they are.

Regards
DL

The worldly competition, the fittest of the fittest IS the production-factory of genocide.

If we are better morally than the bibical God from what you've read and understand, then your competition, fittest of the fittest, serpent-philosophy, is a morality contradiction.

The fittest collects friends, he does not kill them.

What is a serpent-philosophy?

Regards
DL

 

[Learner]

We are seeing from two different perspectives here, (religiously opposite sides perhaps). Also you speak of the innocence of Jesus as if it were the Christians, His followers, "who were the ones condeming and finding Him guilty."

Putting ones sins on Jesus was not the harmful element that killed Him. Jesus took those sins UPON Him, whilst being crucified by the harmful acts of those who were against Him.

Further, forgiveness belongs to the victim and not some genocidal god who cannot be hurt by us and who has never been shown to exist.

That is serious hypocrisy and self delusion.

Ever try to get a Christian to argue his moral position? They run like the moral cowards they are.

Regards
DL

The worldly competition, the fittest of the fittest IS the production-factory of genocide.

If we are better morally than the bibical God from what you've read and understand, then your competition, fittest of the fittest, serpent-philosophy, is a morality contradiction.

The fittest collects friends, he does not kill them.

What is a serpent-philosophy?

Regards
DL

The fittest collects friends. Are these friends the losers and not people who are also the fittest like him? I ask to be sure, because you mention "he doesn't kill them."

Serpent philosophy was just a term that came out, lacking a better term at the time of typing. I meant it as a reverse philosophical or religious idea, to the conventional Christian narrative. Not using anti-Christ.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

The fittest collects friends, he does not kill them.

What is a serpent-philosophy?

Regards
DL

The fittest collects friends. Are these friends the losers and not people who are also the fittest like him? I ask to be sure, because you mention "he doesn't kill them."

Serpent philosophy was just a term that came out, lacking a better term at the time of typing. I meant it as a reverse philosophical or religious idea, to the conventional Christian narrative. Not using anti-Christ.

I will.

I am definitely anti the Armageddon and genocide Christ that the more stupid and immoral Christians pray to.

I like the Gnostic Christ though.

In cooperation and making friends, who is the loser/victim/one who is killed?

In competition, there is a loser/victim/one who is killed.

Think serpent if you have to.

Regards
DL