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Democrats trying to unseat each other II

Marisa Nahem on Twitter: "🚨NEWS: Rep. @jamie_raskin announces endorsement of @ninaturner saying,

“I see two kinds of politicians in Washington—justice politicians and power politicians. Nina Turner is the consummate justice politician, committed to the common good, the common man, and the common woman.”" / Twitter


AOC showed up last weekend in support of NT.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Ohio, thank you for the warm welcome this weekend!

It’s time to send @ninaturner to Congress- because our democracy should belong to everyday people over big money.

Early voting is now open!
Election Day is August 3rd 🗳

Join a phonebanking shift below (link)" / Twitter


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Instagram: “Northeast Ohio - did you know there’s a special election for CONGRESS in 11 days?
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Northeast Ohio - did you know there’s a special election for CONGRESS in 11 days? We can all support the community organizers on the ground by taking a tiny bit of of time to phonebank or canvass for @ninaturnerohio.
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Let’s show love to this champion for working people, voting rights, a Green New Deal, Medicare for All, living wages, worker rights and more. Check out mobilize.us/ninaturner to join in! Text your Cleveland area /OH-11 friends and fam about it too 💜


Our Revolution on Twitter: ""Canvasses are where the fight gets won. Right here is where the work happens - where we actually get our hands dirty knocking on doors, having conversations with our neighbors and building actual community. There's no replacement for that." - @AOC @ninaturner #HelloSomebody (link)" / Twitter
In her first campaign, AOC did lots of knocking on doors and having conversations with people of her district.

Nina Turner on Twitter: "Rain or shine we are out here knocking doors, organizing our neighbors and working hard to earn the ultimate endorsement — that of Ohio’s working people. We’ve got a full day left of canvassing, phone banking and community meetings.
Thank you Congresswoman @AOC. Pa’lante! ✊🏾 (link)" / Twitter
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "What’s up Cleveland! Thank you for the warm welcome! 💪🏽💙

Are you ready to lace up your shoes and start knocking doors for @ninaturner?

I’ll be helping launch canvasses and community meet ups all across the city tomorrow.

Join us locally or remotely: (link)" / Twitter

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Nina Turner on Twitter: "We have a huge Weekend of Action coming up with Congresswoman @AOC and we want you to join us! We’re going to lace up our shoes, knock on doors and inspire #OH11 voters 🙌🏾

Tap the link and sign up tonight for our Euclid Canvass to help get out the vote! (link)" / Twitter


About the other side,
Hillary Clinton-endorsed Candidate Shontel Brown Faces Potential Ethics Probe
In April, The Intercept reported that Brown, a Cuyahoga County Councilmember, had voted to award millions worth of contracts to companies connected to her romantic partner and campaign donors. Emails reviewed by The Daily Poster show that the Ohio state auditor's office reviewed the allegations in the article and recently referred the matter to the state ethics commission.
In recent weeks, Brown's campaign and her efforts to paint Turner as a bad Democrat have benefited from high-profile endorsements from the Congressional Black Caucus PAC, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C.

Brown has also seen strong support from corporate lobbyists and outside groups, most prominently DMFI PAC, a pro-Israel super PAC whose biggest donor is an oil and gas executive and an heir to a massive fossil fuel fortune.

The corporate think tank Third Way, which recently endorsed legislation encouraging more states to cut federal pandemic-related unemployment benefits, entered the Cleveland race last week, dropping $250,000 on digital ads opposing Turner.

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Brown has even received assistance from Donald Trump ally Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the New England Patriots.

But Brown's corporate-bankrolled, scorched-earth campaign is also earning detractors. On Monday, Walter Stewart, a local city councilman in Cuyahoga County, posted a video saying he was rescinding his endorsement of Brown because of what he called "phony politics," "big business" and "tit-for-tat negative campaigning."

Instead, said Stewart, "We need someone who is going to stick with the issues, and that person is Nina Turner."
 
Warrensville Heights Councilman Switches Endorsement from Shontel Brown to Nina Turner, Invites Other to Do the Same | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog

The Meaning and History of First Names - Behind the Name - I couldn't find "Shontel", but it seems like an English phonetic spelling of "Chantal", a French name.


Over in Buffalo NY, some city councilmembers are considering abolishing the position of mayor in response to India Walton's primary victory, even though they claim that it was a response to her predecessor Byron Brown's governance.

Could Buffalo become a city without a mayor? | News 4 Buffalo

"The Buffalo Common Council is studying a change in the city’s form of government which would abolish the office of mayor."
 
Nina Turner on Twitter: "We knew this would be an uphill battle from the moment we started this campaign.

While we didn’t cross the river, we inspired thousands to dream bigger and expect more.

We couldn’t overcome the influence of dark money, but we left our mark on OH11 and this nation." / Twitter

then
Nina Turner on Twitter: "To every volunteer, supporter, + conscious-minded soul who donated their time, talent, or treasure to our campaign:

Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Whether you knocked doors or opened your purse, you are part of this movement.

Blessed to be on this journey with you all." / Twitter


The next thing is to figure out why NT lost. Although NT spent more in campaign money than SB, SB had some big outside PAC's on her side, PAC's like Democratic Majority for Israel, PAC's that were willing to spend big money on smears like how NT is against raising the minimum wage and against Medicare for All.

Krystal Ball on Twitter: "Thank you @ninaturner for your fearlessness and your unrelenting commitment to truth telling. These are the qualities that make you powerful and there is no super pac that can change that." / Twitter

Mike Figueredo on Twitter: "If you have a large podcast *cough* and you literally ACTIVELY discouraged your viewers from donating to Nina Turner (when you KNEW how monetarily disadvantaged she was): you get to own this loss too. The DNC thanks you.

Disempowerment politics will be the death of the left." / Twitter

Referring to certain alt-left people, the sort with a grudge against mainstream left-wing politicians like AOC.

I like this:
Paula Jean Swearengin on Twitter: "This is such a heartbreaking loss." / Twitter

I think that she's being sarcastic:
Emma Vigeland on Twitter: "That People’s Party must be thrilled that Nina Turner lost. What a victory to see that McCarthyite imperialist go down. One step closer to Medicare For All!" / Twitter
 
Kara Eastman ran for NE-02 in 2018 and 2020, without success.
Kara Eastman on Twitter: "Hello somebody! Today we are excited to announce the candidates we are ENDORSING for our new PAC, We Have The People PAC! Each of these candidates is INCREDIBLE and is running in a critical, pivotal race. Without further ado, here they are:" / Twitter
Then some tweets on the candidates:

The PAC: We Have The People PAC
  • Nina Turner OH-11 (OH state senator, Bernie Sanders campaigner; she recently lost)
  • Kina Collins IL-07 (activist)
  • Chris Larson WI-SEN (WI state senator)
  • Marie Newman IL-03 (incumbent)
  • Lucas Kunce MO-SEN (activist?)
 
I'm not in Nina Turner's district, but her district, thanks to some creative gerrymandering surrounds almost all of my neighborhood, except the two roads to get out of it, and the streaming I did for the Olympics couldn't tell I wasn't in her district so I got to see it. The ad that was shown quite a bit simply quoted her lack of support of Biden and Clinton... and showed a video of her referring to Biden (and Trump) as a "bowl of shit".

I wasn't happy with Clinton being the nominee. Wasn't happy with Biden. But sure the fuck knew Trump as President was a disastrous proposition, and it turned out worse than we even figured. And anyone that can't see a difference between Trump and Biden has no business in Congress. That isn't being a progressive, that is being petty.

And as much as Nina Turner will want people to forget, she started with a pretty decent lead. She lost that lead as people learned who she was. One thing I did notice in her own ad was a lack of mentioning what party she represented.
 
I wasn't happy with Clinton being the nominee. Wasn't happy with Biden. But sure the fuck knew Trump as President was a disastrous proposition, and it turned out worse than we even figured. And anyone that can't see a difference between Trump and Biden has no business in Congress. That isn't being a progressive, that is being petty.
Don't think she was saying they were equally bad. But that Biden and other 'moderate' democrats are just going to be business as usual, so more of the same shit. He doesn't seem to be putting any pressure on Joe Manchin, and has stated his desire to keep the filibuster, so yea, despite promises his term in office is heading that way.

And as much as Nina Turner will want people to forget, she started with a pretty decent lead. She lost that lead as people learned who she was. One thing I did notice in her own ad was a lack of mentioning what party she represented.

More like lost the lead when Clinton and other establishment democrats stared pouring money in for her opponent.
 
Shahid Buttar for Congress on Twitter: "Corporate Democrat Shontel Brown relied on GOP donors while claiming progressive visionary Nina Turner wasn’t a real Democrat.

“[H]ow did they spend all that conservative loot? The same way they always spend it against progressives: lying and smearing...” — Howie Klein" / Twitter

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Howie Klein on Twitter: "Lessons From The Nina Turner Race? (link)" / Twitter
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Lessons From The Nina Turner Race?
quoting NT: "I am going to work hard to ensure that something like this doesn’t happen to another progressive candidate again. We didn’t lose this race, evil money manipulated and maligned this election."

Author Howie Klein: "The Israel lobby got another scalp of another Black progressive daring to challenge it."

He then went into the history of AIPAC vs. black politicians who challenge Israel.
In 2002, Earl Hilliard, the first Black person to have served Alabama in Congress since Reconstruction, was getting close to a decade of seniority. The year before, Hilliard voted against a bill funding increases in military support to Israel and opposing criminalization of Palestinians. He was defeated by a shameless, AIPAC-financed political hack and careerist, Artur Davis, a viciously homophobic Blue Dog who voted against Obamacare, switched to the GOP, then back to the Democratic Party again to run, unsuccessfully, for office again and then back to the GOP. Davis was followed by another obedient, conservative Democrat, New Dem Terri Sewell.

In 1992, the same year Hilliard had been elected to Congress, Cynthia McKinney became the first-ever Black woman to represent Georgia in the House. In 2002, AIPAC got her too and replaced her with another pointless hack, Denise Majette, who was heavily supported by white Republicans in the black majority district. McKinney ran and won again two years later. In 2006 she was forced into a runoff with DeKalb County Commissioner Hank Johnson, who beat her and isn't a bad member the way Artur Davis and Terri Sewell have been. Still, Israel was rid of a very sharp thorn in its side.
SB he describes as "another pointless-- and corrupt-- establishment hack" She won because "Brown's big spending allies having appealed to white Republicans to stop Nina in the open primary." I wouldn't be surprised if she -- or DMFI -- got some Republicans to vote for her.

"Even before Nina was defeated, the establishment was gleeful."
 
HK then listed who endorsed who:

Nina Turner: Bernie Sanders, Ed Markey, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ted Lieu, Jamaal Bowman, Mondaire Jones, Katie Porter, Jamie Raskin, Pramila Jayapal, Andy Levin, Ro Khanna, Mark Pocan

Shontel Brown: Jim Clyburn, Joyce Beatty (the payday lending bag lady), Josh Gottheimer, Pete Aguilar, Greg Meeks, Ted Deutch (Likud-FL), Brad Schneider, David Trone, Bennie Thompson, Troy Carter

"Brown was also backed by the New Dems, the Congressional Black Caucus, Mark Mellman's Democratic Majority for Israel (generously financed by Big Oil), Jewish Democratic Council of America, and Pro-Israel America."

HK then listed several of DMFI's supporters, including big supporters of Republican politicians who also donated to SB's campaign.

Democratic Super PAC Condemned for 'Sleazy' and False Attacks on Nina Turner | Common Dreams News -- the DMFI
One reporter described a new mailer, which falsely accuses Turner of opposing universal healthcare and a higher minimum wage, as "wildly dishonest."
 
I wasn't happy with Clinton being the nominee. Wasn't happy with Biden. But sure the fuck knew Trump as President was a disastrous proposition, and it turned out worse than we even figured. And anyone that can't see a difference between Trump and Biden has no business in Congress. That isn't being a progressive, that is being petty.
Don't think she was saying they were equally bad.
"Two bowls of shit". Doesn't matter if she isn't Moore-Coultering it, there is no comparison between the two. Trump was a cancer, Biden a conservative moderate Democrat.

But that Biden and other 'moderate' democrats are just going to be business as usual, so more of the same shit. He doesn't seem to be putting any pressure on Joe Manchin, and has stated his desire to keep the filibuster, so yea, despite promises his term in office is heading that way.
This is the problem of have a 50-50 tie in the Senate. What leverage do you think Biden has? It is a miracle we even have a 50-50 tie! And it was an alleged "progressive" in Nina Turner who wasn't part of that. Meanwhile Biden and the Dems are trying to use reconciliation more than once in a year to try and get a larger package passed. That is stretching the limits of their power given the unholy obstruction they face with the GOP.

And as much as Nina Turner will want people to forget, she started with a pretty decent lead. She lost that lead as people learned who she was. One thing I did notice in her own ad was a lack of mentioning what party she represented.
More like lost the lead when Clinton and other establishment democrats stared pouring money in for her opponent.
The commercial I saw just quoted her and played a video of her making a very poor comparison between Biden and Trump. Nothing nefarious, nothing taken out of context.

We need fewer alleged progressives like her because she can't solve problems, she couldn't get legislation past in the House.
 
HK then quoted Marianne Williamson, who ran for President last year and who supports several candidates.
One of Nina's early backers, Marianne Williamson, told me this morning that "Turner’s defeat feels like it might be the final nail in the coffin, an end to any illusion that corporatist Democratic leadership will allow a progressive to get anywhere near the seat of power. It’s like they feel they were out-maeuvered by the squad getting past the gates and they’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen again. They used every trick in the book, every cheap and nasty and corrupt tool in their toolbox, to defeat Nina's extraordinary American voice for the people and instead bring in a party pol who will presumably do as she is told. Where we go with that I’m not sure. But after two elections in which Bernie’s candidacies were suppressed, my own experience as a presidential candidate, and now Nina’s defeat at the hands of their shenanigans, I’m at the point you come to in any relationship when you realize the other person isn’t going to change and it’s ridiculous to think they will."

She said that she'll "continue to work hard for grassroots Democratic candidates. But we need to start thinking about 2024 and this makes it clear that all Democrats will be willing to offer is a Biden, Harris, Amy, Pete, or some facsimile thereof; any progressive running for the nomination will be on a fool’s errand. Once again, I don’t know the answer. But according to the poet Rilke, when you don’t know the answer you simply live the question. The answer will come. In the meantime, my heart is with Nina today. She fought the good fight. She didn’t win the political war but she won the moral one. She stood up for the people, she stood up for justice and she stood up for love." Please consider helping Marianne support progressive candidates by clicking on the thermometer above and contributing what you can.
 
HK then quoted Marianne Williamson, who ran for President last year and who supports several candidates.
One of Nina's early backers, Marianne Williamson, told me this morning that "Turner’s defeat feels like it might be the final nail in the coffin, an end to any illusion that corporatist Democratic leadership will allow a progressive to get anywhere near the seat of power. It’s like they feel they were out-maeuvered by the squad getting past the gates and they’re going to make sure it doesn’t happen again. They used every trick in the book, every cheap and nasty and corrupt tool in their toolbox, to defeat Nina's extraordinary American voice for the people and instead bring in a party pol who will presumably do as she is told. Where we go with that I’m not sure. But after two elections in which Bernie’s candidacies were suppressed, my own experience as a presidential candidate, and now Nina’s defeat at the hands of their shenanigans, I’m at the point you come to in any relationship when you realize the other person isn’t going to change and it’s ridiculous to think they will."

She said that she'll "continue to work hard for grassroots Democratic candidates. But we need to start thinking about 2024 and this makes it clear that all Democrats will be willing to offer is a Biden, Harris, Amy, Pete, or some facsimile thereof; any progressive running for the nomination will be on a fool’s errand. Once again, I don’t know the answer. But according to the poet Rilke, when you don’t know the answer you simply live the question. The answer will come. In the meantime, my heart is with Nina today. She fought the good fight. She didn’t win the political war but she won the moral one. She stood up for the people, she stood up for justice and she stood up for love." Please consider helping Marianne support progressive candidates by clicking on the thermometer above and contributing what you can.

I'm sorry to say but Nina lost because she had fewer votes than Brown. Period. There is no evil cabals of "corporate democratic meanies" conspiring to hold back the far left. The voters in Ohio liked Brown a little bit more than Nina. A tiny majority of dem voters liked Biden a little more than Sanders. A smaller majority liked Hillary slightly more than Sanders. People like Marianne alleging conspiracies to steal the vote are no better than the Trump voter crazies alleging conspiracies.
 
HK then quoted Marianne Williamson, who ran for President last year and who supports several candidates.
Jebus! Long since the days of Eugene Debs who struggled hard to get worker rights and Norman Thomas, a conscience of America, that we have today, supporting the progressive cause and being cited, Marianne Williamson.

It is like they call themselves progressives, and we are supposed to just accept it. Anyone else notice that $3 trillion extending the definition of "infrastructure" bill Schumer, Biden and the corporate Democrats are trying to get through an evenly split Senate? These alleged progressives are fucking idiots. They don't know how to fight for a cause. All they do is whine that things aren't how they like it. Then try to put someone into a race in an area way too moderate and then blame others for their loss. If these people won, they'd have no fucking clue how to run things or how to be progressive.
 
I'm sorry to say but Nina lost because she had fewer votes than Brown. Period. There is no evil cabals of "corporate democratic meanies" conspiring to hold back the far left. The voters in Ohio liked Brown a little bit more than Nina. A tiny majority of dem voters liked Biden a little more than Sanders. A smaller majority liked Hillary slightly more than Sanders. People like Marianne alleging conspiracies to steal the vote are no better than the Trump voter crazies alleging conspiracies.
Let's see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. Like if your favorite candidate lost because an opposing candidate had a massively-funded outside-money campaign that involved horrible smears, like saying that your candidate was for lots of extreme positions.

That's a downside of representative democracy - elections turning into shouting matches.

Also, why not weep for Rep. Joe Crowley in 2018? Rep. Mike Capuano?

Briahna Joy Gray: Nina Turner DEFEATED Thanks To DARK MONEY, Here’s What Progressives MUST Learn - YouTube -- part of iSB was getting a lot of Republican-leaning voters to vote against NT, something possible because Ohio's primaries are open primaries. She also noted that something similar happened in South Carolina -- getting out the votes of Republican-leaning suburbanites.

More broadly, that's a problem with open partisan primaries. People from outside the party might show up and cause mischief. I think that we should make all primaries nonpartisan, with the top-performing candidates continuing to the general election. Something like what CA and WA now do with their top-two system. If nothing else, it's made for some genuinely competitive general elections, with two Democrats or two Republicans up against each other. Like last year, Nancy Pelosi being challenged on her left by a fellow Democrat.


Finally, has SB ever laid out what kind of policy vision she wants? Anything comparable to what NT did? Not that I know of. There is nothing to say that a centrist candidate cannot lay out some policy vision or some agenda, and right-wing candidates often do so.
 
Let's see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. Like if your favorite candidate lost because an opposing candidate had a massively-funded outside-money campaign
Nina Turner also had a massively-funded outside-money campaign.

Nina Turner leads Shontel Brown in fundraising as out-of-state money bolsters both congressional campaigns

But I guess her money is good money, but Brown's money is evil money. What a hypocrite!

that involved horrible smears, like saying that your candidate was for lots of extreme positions.
Well, she does. That's why the far left loves her to begin with!

Also, why not weep for Rep. Joe Crowley in 2018? Rep. Mike Capuano?

Those two are head and shoulders above those that replaced them. You might add Elliott Engel to that list too.

What makes Shontel Brown's money "dark" but Nina Turner's not? Green is green!

-- part of iSB was getting a lot of Republican-leaning voters to vote against NT, something possible because Ohio's primaries are open primaries. She also noted that something similar happened in South Carolina -- getting out the votes of Republican-leaning suburbanites.
In a non-competitive district like OH-11 primaries are the only real venue for the supporters of the minority party to weigh in. Closing the primaries would make candidate running practically unopposed in those districts more fringe and more extreme. On both sides of the aisle. That is definitely not something we should want for the Congress and for our country.

More broadly, that's a problem with open partisan primaries. People from outside the party might show up and cause mischief.
It is not mischief to vote for Brown because you like her better and that she would be a better representative for the district. Cross-over voting is only mischief if for example you vote for Bernie Sanders (or Donald Trump, <Homer>Doh!</Homer>) because you think he'd be easy to beat in the general. Such "Operation Chaos" style voting does not work well in uncompetitive districts for obvious reasons.

I think that we should make all primaries nonpartisan, with the top-performing candidates continuing to the general election. Something like what CA and WA now do with their top-two system. If nothing else, it's made for some genuinely competitive general elections, with two Democrats or two Republicans up against each other. Like last year, Nancy Pelosi being challenged on her left by a fellow Democrat.
That's a good idea.

Finally, has SB ever laid out what kind of policy vision she wants? Anything comparable to what NT did? Not that I know of. There is nothing to say that a centrist candidate cannot lay out some policy vision or some agenda, and right-wing candidates often do so.

You think SB is a "right-wing candidate"?
 
I'm sorry to say but Nina lost because she had fewer votes than Brown. Period. There is no evil cabals of "corporate democratic meanies" conspiring to hold back the far left. The voters in Ohio liked Brown a little bit more than Nina. A tiny majority of dem voters liked Biden a little more than Sanders. A smaller majority liked Hillary slightly more than Sanders. People like Marianne alleging conspiracies to steal the vote are no better than the Trump voter crazies alleging conspiracies.
Let's see what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. Like if your favorite candidate lost because an opposing candidate had a massively-funded outside-money campaign that involved horrible smears, like saying that your candidate was for lots of extreme positions.
Or calling President Biden (well, Candidate Biden at the time) a "bowl of shit"? What do you see in her? She is not a builder.

That's a downside of representative democracy - elections turning into shouting matches.
And Turner was shouting out against Clinton and Biden.
 
HK then listed who endorsed who:
Nina Turner: Bernie Sanders, Ed Markey, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Ted Lieu, Jamaal Bowman, Mondaire Jones, Katie Porter, Jamie Raskin, Pramila Jayapal, Andy Levin, Ro Khanna, Mark Pocan
Who's who of the far, anti-Israel left.

Shontel Brown: Jim Clyburn, Joyce Beatty (the payday lending bag lady),
Explain.

Josh Gottheimer, Pete Aguilar, Greg Meeks, Ted Deutch (Likud-FL),
Ted Deutsch is a Democrat. I guess in that vein we have Nina Turner (Hamas-OH), Rashida Tlaib (Hamas-MI), Ilhan Omar (Hamas-MN) and so on.

Brad Schneider, David Trone, Bennie Thompson, Troy Carter

Mark Mellman's Democratic Majority for Israel (generously financed by Big Oil), Jewish Democratic Council of America, and Pro-Israel America."
Ah, the two things the far Left loves to hate - Israel and oil. Never mind that Palestinians keep attacking Israel all the time and that Israel is attacked for defending itself from Islamic terrorist aggression. And never mind that we all use oil either directly in cars we drive or indirectly by ordering online of buying in stores who get their products by truck even if you yourself bike there. Then there is the use of oil as feedstock for different products such as polymers.

HK then listed several of DMFI's supporters, including big supporters of Republican politicians who also donated to SB's campaign.

Democratic Super PAC Condemned for 'Sleazy' and False Attacks on Nina Turner | Common Dreams News -- the DMFI
One reporter described a new mailer, which falsely accuses Turner of opposing universal healthcare and a higher minimum wage, as "wildly dishonest."
Can't take you seriously if you quote Common Dreams.
 
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talks to 3News during campaign event for Nina Turner - YouTube - she showed up to campaign for NT. I like the part at the end where she endorsed the Cleveland baseball team changing its name from Indians to Guardians. That's after some "guardian" statues on some city bridge.

She said that this was her second time in Cleveland. Her first time was likely on her way to Standing Rock back in late 2016.

Nina Turner Campaign rally with AOC - YouTube
AOC talked about knocking on the doors of people whose doors haven't been knocked on by many campaigners. The conventional wisdom was to knock only on the doors of those who voted in the last three elections -- triple primes -- and she violated that. She succeeded. She also described how inspiring NT was when she was thinking of running for office -- NT had worked for Bernie Sanders's campaign. She recalls NT showing up early in her campaign, along with Cori Bush. So she's returning the favor.

NT didn't feel upstaged by AOC, and she delivered a fiery speech of her own. In it, she said that patriotism should not preclude criticizing one's nation, and that such criticism can be out of love.
 
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