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Police, paramedics charged in death of Elijah McClain

Elijah McClain’s Father Tells Joy Reid 'All Blacks In Colorado’ Have A Fear Of Police - YouTube
"Elijah McClain’s father discusses the grand jury indictment of officers and medics involved in his son’s 2019 death. LaWayne Mosley also tells Joy Reid, ‘that's not his character, that's not his nature,’ regarding the Aurora police union claiming McClain violently resisted arrest in its issued statement."

JR showed a presentation graphic of the charges:
GRAND JURY INDICTS 5 OFFICERS AND PARAMEDICS INVOLVED IN ELIJAH MCCLAIN'S DEATH

RANDY ROEDEMA & NATHAN WOODYARD AURORA POLICE OFFICERS
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide
1 count of second-degree assault with intent to cause bodily injury
1 count of a crime of violence related to the 2nd-degree assault, bodily injury charge

JASON ROSENBLATT FORMER AURORA POLICE OFFICER count of manslaughter
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide

JEREMY COOPER & PETER CHICHUNIEC AURORA FIRE & RESCUE PARAMEDICS
1 count of manslaughter
1 count of criminally negligent homicide
1 count second-degree assault with intent to cause bodily injury
1 count 2nd-degree assault for recklessly causing serious bodily injury by means of a deadly weapon (Ketamine)
1 count second-degree assault for a purpose other than lawful medical or therapeutic treatment
2 counts of crimes of violence for each of the assault charges
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Urban Dictionary: testilying "The act of fabricating evidence and testifying falsely in court, esp. when performed by an officer of the law. Coined by the Mollen Commission (1994)."

‘Testilying’ by Police: A Stubborn Problem - The New York Times
An investigation by The New York Times has found that on more than 25 occasions since January 2015, judges or prosecutors determined that a key aspect of a New York City police officer’s testimony was probably untrue. The Times identified these cases — many of which are sealed — through interviews with lawyers, police officers and current and former judges.

In these cases, officers have lied about the whereabouts of guns, putting them in suspects’ hands or waistbands when they were actually hidden out of sight. They have barged into apartments and conducted searches, only to testify otherwise later. Under oath, they have given firsthand accounts of crimes or arrests that they did not in fact witness. They have falsely claimed to have watched drug deals happen, only to later recant or be shown to have lied.

No detail, seemingly, is too minor to embellish. “Clenched fists” is how one Brooklyn officer described the hands of a man he claimed had angrily approached him and started screaming and yelling — an encounter that prosecutors later determined never occurred. Another officer, during a Bronx trial, accused a driver of recklessly crossing the double-yellow line — on a stretch of road that had no double-yellow line.

In many instances, the motive for lying was readily apparent: to skirt constitutional restrictions against unreasonable searches and stops. In other cases, the falsehoods appear aimed at convicting people — who may or may not have committed a crime — with trumped-up evidence.
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Promotions, Not Punishments, for Officers Accused of Lying - The New York Times
Of the 81 cases in which a civilian review board found an officer had lied, the Police Department pursued “false statement” charges in only two.

For years, the Civilian Complaint Review Board, a New York City agency that investigates abusive police behavior, has documented every instance it believes it has caught an officer lying. The cases rarely present much of a mystery: Often they involve officers who deny throwing a punch or who downplay the force used during an arrest — only to have their accounts undermined by video recordings.

But the civilian board has no power to mete out discipline in such cases; it refers them to the Police Department for further investigation and possible action.

In case after case, the Police Department reaches the same finding: There is not enough evidence to determine whether the police officer made a false statement, The New York Times found.

The board has been notified of only two cases — out of the 81 it has been able to track since 2010 — in which the Police Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau upheld the board’s accusation that the officer had made a false statement. In the other 79 cases, the Police Department found no wrongdoing or found the officer guilty of lesser misconduct, such as failing to properly fill out a memo book, according to information provided by the board and a document obtained by The Times.
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So the cops aren't very good at policing themselves.

Police ‘Testilying’ Remains a Problem. Here Is How the Criminal Justice System Could Reduce It. - The New York Times - "After investigating police lying, our reporter examines ways to curb the practice."

"Police perjury is often described as an intractable problem, an unfortunate but unavoidable reality in a criminal justice system that relies to a great degree on the testimony of police officers. But that would suggest that the criminal justice system has tried and failed to tackle the problem"

How to address police “testilying.” - "Would the criminal justice system collapse if cops were forced to tell the truth?"
Christopher Parham was grocery shopping for his boss when Henry Daverin, a plainclothes NYPD officer, approached him. Daverin accused Parham of driving recklessly on an illegal scooter without a helmet; a few minutes later, Parham was writhing in pain on the sidewalk outside. What happened during those few minutes was a matter of dispute. The NYPD said that Parham, a Black 19-year-old, had violently resisted arrest. Daverin and his colleagues said that they did not use force against him even though Parham had gruesome Taser burns all across his back.

Then surveillance video of the episode emerged—and proved that nearly every detail of the NYPD’s account was false. Parham had immediately cooperated with Daverin; he did not resist arrest. Nonetheless, Daverin and his colleagues had assaulted Parham, tackling him to the ground, then Tasing him over and over again. After Parham’s attorneys released the video—and his local representatives raised concerns—the district attorney dropped all charges. Daverin, who had been named in at least 10 other misconduct lawsuits, was never disciplined, either for brutalizing Parham or for lying about it. Two years later, he remains on the force.
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Wikipedia has an article on  Police perjury
 
The US police were invented to control people that are "not like us" so it's still working as intended.

Edit: only difference now is they are so drunk with the power after all this time, that being a European settler from Brittan no longer protects you.
 
Angry Floof said:
lpetrich said:
bleubird said:
I know how you all hate argument by you tub,but.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo_4x2n_hAY
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What's in that video?
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It's the one where police brutalized an elderly lady who was just walking down the street.
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Yeah, that one was posted quite a while ago although her winning big money in her lawsuit is new.

My wife is trying to find a new liability insurer for the company she works for. They've had three claims in twenty years and got dropped. The insurance broker found one company willing to provide coverage for three times what they used to pay. How much of the police budget goes towards liability insurance, especially after incidents like this?
 
I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.
 
Gospel said:
I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.
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You have a house that is prone to damage. The fact you paid for it yourself doesn't change that.
 
[TWEET]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These 2 tweets are 9 days apart. Isn’t this called entrapment or something? <br><br>When are we going to reduce the scope of responsibilities of the NYPD and downsize our police force? <a href="https://t.co/bBRUbaJzsa">pic.twitter.com/bBRUbaJzsa</a></p>— Ozzie Araujo (he/him) (@OzzieAraujo) <a href="https://twitter.com/OzzieAraujo/status/1435433730131341313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/TWEET]..
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Gospel said:
I got dropped by my insurance company for reporting damages that I paid for myself and didn't file a claim (5 issues 3 having to do with Hurricane damage). I was trying to keep them up to speed with crap that went down with my house in case I really needed to file a claim so they would be aware of the current updates to the home. Oh well, my second insurance company is really happy with me. They can't for the life of them understand why the flying &%#$ (I'm trying to curse less on this board as of today) they did that.

Edit: I cursed
Edit 2: Sorry for the derail. I was pissed about how they treated that woman. It just goes to show that police being given way too much leeway to screw up their dealings with "thugs" you don't like ends up hurting people you do like.
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You have a house that is prone to damage. The fact you paid for it yourself doesn't change that.
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Who has a house that is not damage prone? And isn't the purpose of insurance companies to make money off people who don't file claims? Besides they are the ones that wanted to make sure the work was being done properly.

Edit: I honestly think i got dropped because an algorithm sent a flag to some idiots desk that didn't check the details.
 
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