The University Of Austin

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"well" if "is" has a different "meaning" then "usage" means nothing"?"

 

[Patooka]

Why is everyone all of a sudden demanding a precise word meaning for "university" in this thread, but in other active threads we are being lectured about how language is squishy and constantly evolving, re: men, women, male, female, he, she....

Because you're comprehensive is flawed. The only person advocating for a precise meaning is me. And I am deliberately doing that because the demand for a less precise meaning for university is coming from the same people who have made gender and sex a hill to die on.

 

[laughing dog]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman, yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good. If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

You're not paying attention. One is authoritarian and Orwellian. The other is aspirational. Fuck if I know what the difference is though.

It is hard. After all, one can aspire to be authoritarian and Orwellian as well. Or one can be authoritarian but not Orwellian. Or one can be Orwellian but not authoritarian. Or one can simply be disingenuous or hypocritical.

It is my impression that Niall Ferguson is a respected historian. (BTW, he and Ms Ali are married). None of the other people mentioned are respected in their academic fields - they made their names as rebels against "wokeness;". I seriously doubt they expect to start a standard university from scratch - that takes a lot more resources than I suspect they have.

I suspect they will offer a select number of classes from their "liberal" perspective. Without a degree program, their market will be relatively small.

 

[Jarhyn]

Why is everyone all of a sudden demanding a precise word meaning for "university" in this thread, but in other active threads we are being lectured about how language is squishy and constantly evolving, re: men, women, male, female, he, she....

Because they are mocking a sudden reversal of mode by a particular population and no more, showing the contradiction implied by holding both of these positions by the people who hold them which is not us.

We don't say "they are not a university" we say "that logic you used before when used here casts aspersions on the coherency of such a rhetorical framework as you are using."

 

[ZiprHead]

Bari Weiss saying she is sick of complaining.

 

[lpetrich]

You know a forum has totally lost its way when its founding principles (free inquiry, free expression of ideas, skepticism and secular humanism) and thought leaders are mocked and ridiculed in favor of a twisted, degenerate and dangerous ideology.

For people who claim to be opposed to calling oneself a victim, right-wingers are very big on saying what victims they are.

 

[Metaphor]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman,

No man can become a woman, because mammals cannot change sex.

yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good.

It's starting up. If you register a company called 'Space Sprockets, Inc' with plans to start manufacturing space sprockets, but you haven't even purchased the first space sprocket machine, is that an act of deception?

I suspect that if the entity that is called 'The University of Austin' starts offering accredited degrees, you will be no less opposed to it.

If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

Gender ideologists believe that transwomen are women without having taken any medical or social steps at all.

But, the two situations are not nearly alike. Men cannot become women, because mammals cannot change sex. However, new Universities can be formed. It's been done many times before.

 

[Metaphor]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman, yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good. If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

You're not paying attention. One is authoritarian and Orwellian. The other is aspirational. Fuck if I know what the difference is though.

I would say so. You clearly do not know what 'authoritarian' and 'Orwellian' mean.

 

[Metaphor]

Out of interest, exactly how do the cynics on this thread propose anybody start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?

 

[laughing dog]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman, yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good. If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

You're not paying attention. One is authoritarian and Orwellian. The other is aspirational. Fuck if I know what the difference is though.

I would say so. You clearly do not know what 'authoritarian' and 'Orwellian' mean.

That one broke all irony meters.

Out of interest, exactly how do the cynics on this thread propose anybody start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

 

[Metaphor]

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

No, you haven't answered my question. I did not ask 'how would you start a university?'.

I asked how you would 'start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?' (emphasis added)

 

[ZiprHead]

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

No, you haven't answered my question. I did not ask 'how would you start a university?'.

I asked how you would 'start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?' (emphasis added)

You mean like PragerU or Trump University?

 

[Keith&Co.]

I suspect they will offer a select number of classes from their "liberal" perspective. Without a degree program, their market will be relatively small.but unfortunately, they will have their victims. People who will pay money before finding out there's no degree program and that Unseen University credits do not transfer to anyplace that's offering a degree.

 

[Metaphor]

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

No, you haven't answered my question. I did not ask 'how would you start a university?'.

I asked how you would 'start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?' (emphasis added)

You mean like PragerU or Trump University?

No: I mean how would you start a university and get it through its formative stages--university being an institution that offers accredited degrees which what every cynic in this thread is screaming blue murder about--without using the intended name of the university?

 

[Metaphor]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman, yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good. If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

You're not paying attention. One is authoritarian and Orwellian. The other is aspirational. Fuck if I know what the difference is though.

It is hard. After all, one can aspire to be authoritarian and Orwellian as well. Or one can be authoritarian but not Orwellian. Or one can be Orwellian but not authoritarian. Or one can simply be disingenuous or hypocritical.

It is my impression that Niall Ferguson is a respected historian. (BTW, he and Ms Ali are married). None of the other people mentioned are respected in their academic fields - they made their names as rebels against "wokeness;". I seriously doubt they expect to start a standard university from scratch - that takes a lot more resources than I suspect they have.

I suspect they will offer a select number of classes from their "liberal" perspective. Without a degree program, their market will be relatively small.

but unfortunately, they will have their victims. People who will pay money before finding out there's no degree program and that Unseen University credits do not transfer to anyplace that's offering a degree.

What people will do so? The organisation isn't enrolling students yet.

 

[ZiprHead]

It's funny how quickly Metaphor's panties get twisted when a man "clearly aspirationally" self-identifies as a woman, yet a non-degree-confirming entity identifying as a university is all good. If anything, a post-surgery trans woman has gone a LOT farther down the road to being a woman than this transparent money-grabbing fake "university" has to being an actual accredited university.

You're not paying attention. One is authoritarian and Orwellian. The other is aspirational. Fuck if I know what the difference is though.

It is hard. After all, one can aspire to be authoritarian and Orwellian as well. Or one can be authoritarian but not Orwellian. Or one can be Orwellian but not authoritarian. Or one can simply be disingenuous or hypocritical.

It is my impression that Niall Ferguson is a respected historian. (BTW, he and Ms Ali are married). None of the other people mentioned are respected in their academic fields - they made their names as rebels against "wokeness;". I seriously doubt they expect to start a standard university from scratch - that takes a lot more resources than I suspect they have.

I suspect they will offer a select number of classes from their "liberal" perspective. Without a degree program, their market will be relatively small.

but unfortunately, they will have their victims. People who will pay money before finding out there's no degree program and that Unseen University credits do not transfer to anyplace that's offering a degree.

What people will do so? The organisation isn't enrolling students yet.

No, it's just asking for "donations".

 

[Metaphor]

No, it's just asking for "donations".

That's correct. So what? Is asking for donations wrong? Has the institution deceptively promised university credits for donations?

 

[laughing dog]

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

No, you haven't answered my question. I did not ask 'how would you start a university?'.

I asked how you would 'start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?' (emphasis added)

I did answer your question since the formative stage is the start. Duh.

 

[Metaphor]

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start. Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another.

No, you haven't answered my question. I did not ask 'how would you start a university?'.

I asked how you would 'start a university and get it through its formative stages, without using the intended name of the university?' (emphasis added)

I did answer your question since the formative stage is the start. Duh.

You did not.

You said:

Having a stated focus on the positives (i.e. what the university will be) instead of complaining about higher ed would be a good start.

and

Having credible and reputable researchers in their fields instead of professional whiners would be another

How do you do those things without a name for your institution? Do you suggest 'Holding Company for Intended University of Austin'?

 

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