Rittenhouse/Kenosha Shooting Split

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Fact checking Kyle Rittenhouse’s testimony in Kenosha murder trial​

There is not really a lot of meat to this article and at first glance, the things they are covering seem pretty insignificant. However, they do speak to dishonesty and when one considers further and in the greater context, his motivations maybe are illuminated by where and when he makes up stories.

No one responded. Sorry, I probably should have quoted some of the issues with his testimony...

Here is one fact-check:
"Testimony: Kyle Rittenhouse said he is a student at Arizona State University
In the opening minutes of his testimony, Rittenhouse told the jury he was a “college student studying nursing at Arizona State University.”
An ASU spokesman, however, said Rittenhouse “has not gone through the admissions process with Arizona State University and is not enrolled in the Edson College of Nursing and Health Innovation.” Instead, he started a nondegree seeking online program Oct. 13 — less than three weeks before the trial began."

Another:
"Kyle Rittenhouse said he was issued his bulletproof vest by the Grayslake Police Department"

Apparently, this is not true. He may have gotten it for purposes of some kind of police training, but he bought it on his own according to the police.

Another:
"Kyle Rittenhouse said he didn’t look at social media between the shootings and the time he turned himself in to Antioch police"

And you guessed it. Yes, he looked at social media.

Like I wrote, these questions are seemingly insignificant. I'd like to see them tackle the question of whether KR was aware of "friction" present between persons and his group. He claimed in testimony there was no friction.

That was a big lie. He was aware of the friction. The prosecutor pointed out that people said to stay on the property not the street. Elsewhere, there was a guy moving the dumpster who allegedly made threats. Is that one of the guys he shot? In any case, clearly KR knew he was putting himself into a situation where he might end up shooting someone.

 

[laughing dog]

Of course not. Definitely goes a long way to showing he has no remorse for his actions, which is telling because killing someone isn't an easy thing to get over. It causes many people life long trauma.

Again, you are merely inventing a 'correct trauma response' and applying it to Rittenhouse. I know people who have gone through severe trauma but did not cry even when relaying that trauma. I also believe that the clip you are referring to looks like an anxious panic attack to me, not 'fake crying'.

You are merely inventing a "correct trauma response" and a "correct panic attack" and applying it to Rittenhouse.

 

[KeepTalking]

Personally I don't think crying in the drivers seat when you were exceeding the speed limit should get one out of a traffic ticket, nor do I think that crying on the witness stand should get one out of murder.

It's true that if you already believe he is guilty, all his behaviour afterwards is compatible with being guilty.

What does that have to do with what I posted?

Nobody believes that crying on the witness stand should get you out of murder, or crying after getting a speeding ticket should get you out of the fine. Why do you think anyone believes that?

If his crying on the stand isn't an indication of his guilt or innocence, why are we talking about it?

 

[Metaphor]

You are merely inventing a "correct trauma response" and a "correct panic attack" and applying it to Rittenhouse

No, I'm not. I did not say it was a fact that he was crying or having a panic attack. I did not say he was having the 'correct' trauma response, nor an 'incorrect' one. I said it looked like to me that nothing he has done is incompatible with having shot two people in self-defense.

 

[Metaphor]

If his crying on the stand isn't an indication of his guilt or innocence, why are we talking about it?

Ask the people who brought it up and called him a remorseless sociopath for doing it.

 

[none]

so he's a remorseful sociopath, good call

 

[laughing dog]

You are merely inventing a "correct trauma response" and a "correct panic attack" and applying it to Rittenhouse

No, I'm not. I did not say it was a fact that he was crying or having a panic attack. I did not say he was having the 'correct' trauma response, nor an 'incorrect' one. I said it looked like to me that nothing he has done is incompatible with having shot two people in self-defense.

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

 

[Metaphor]

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

By recognising there is no correct way to experience trauma.

So, the exact opposite of inventing a 'correct trauma response'.

 

[laughing dog]

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

By recognising there is no correct way to experience trauma.

So, the exact opposite of inventing a 'correct trauma response'.

Think a little harder.

 

[none]

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

By recognising there is no correct way to experience trauma.

So, the exact opposite of inventing a 'correct trauma response'.

hahahaha, dude... if you get bitten by one of the many many venomous critters out there I pity you.

 

[KeepTalking]

If his crying on the stand isn't an indication of his guilt or innocence, why are we talking about it?

Ask the people who brought it up and called him a remorseless sociopath for doing it.

I brought it up to the entire thread, for some reason you took exception. I don't think his crying should matter either way.

 

[Metaphor]

I brought it up to the entire thread, for some reason you took exception. I don't think his crying should matter either way.

I agree that his crying shouldn't make a difference. But his crying was certainly set upon with sadistic glee by the people who think he is guilty.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

By recognising there is no correct way to experience trauma.

So, the exact opposite of inventing a 'correct trauma response'.

Ahah! This proves you are a left-wing communist post-modern psychoanalyst in disguise. The ONLY way to experience trauma after shooting people unnecessarily is to wear a Free As Fuck T-shirt to a bar with your mom and take pictures with Proud Boys while flashing a white supremacy OK symbol and then crying later on when giving testimony to the jury.

 

[Metaphor]

Ahah! This proves you are a left-wing communist post-modern psychoanalyst in disguise. The ONLY way to experience trauma after shooting people unnecessarily is to wear a Free As Fuck T-shirt to a bar with your mom and take pictures with Proud Boys while flashing a white supremacy OK symbol and then crying later on when giving testimony to the jury.

If you say so.

 

[Metaphor]

CBS has clearly made up its mind:

But then they changed it back to 'undecided':

 

[none]

Yessss, and how did you reach that conclusion? Hmmmm.

By recognising there is no correct way to experience trauma.

So, the exact opposite of inventing a 'correct trauma response'.

hahahaha, dude... if you get bitten by one of the many many venomous critters out there I pity you.

 

[none]

CBS has clearly made up its mind:View attachment 36022

But then they changed it back to 'undecided':View attachment 36023

hmm... one's from "twitter web app" the other is from "twitter media studio"
dilemmas....

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Nobody believes that crying on the witness stand should get you out of murder, or crying after getting a speeding ticket should get you out of the fine. Why do you think anyone believes that?

If his crying on the stand isn't an indication of his guilt or innocence, why are we talking about it?

Because it is a manipulative maneuver to sell how scared he was and why he had to kill one person. Calling it manipulative BS is calling a spade a spade.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Fact checking Kyle Rittenhouse’s testimony in Kenosha murder trial​

There is not really a lot of meat to this article and at first glance, the things they are covering seem pretty insignificant. However, they do speak to dishonesty and when one considers further and in the greater context, his motivations maybe are illuminated by where and when he makes up stories.

No one responded. Sorry, I probably should have quoted some of the issues with his testimony...

Here is one fact-check:
"Testimony: Kyle Rittenhouse said he is a student at Arizona State University
In the opening minutes of his testimony, Rittenhouse told the jury he was a “college student studying nursing at Arizona State University.”
An ASU spokesman, however, said Rittenhouse “has not gone through the admissions process with Arizona State University and is not enrolled in the Edson College of Nursing and Health Innovation.” Instead, he started a nondegree seeking online program Oct. 13 — less than three weeks before the trial began."

Are you fucking kidding me?!

Another:
"Kyle Rittenhouse said he was issued his bulletproof vest by the Grayslake Police Department"

Apparently, this is not true. He may have gotten it for purposes of some kind of police training, but he bought it on his own according to the police.

Issued, purchased... what's the diff?

Another:
"Kyle Rittenhouse said he didn’t look at social media between the shootings and the time he turned himself in to Antioch police"

And you guessed it. Yes, he looked at social media.

*shocked face*

 

[blastula]

That scans.

I thought it was weird that he said he was going to ASU when he had also said he graduated from an online high school. I looked up the school and it charges about $900 for a diploma.