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[Jarhyn]

You really think it would have been any less effective mentioning it after you saw the thread for the first time and his comment was already there?

You can't be serious asking this, can you?

You seriously think that...

Look, people see some guy saying "look at this virtue signaller over here, why isn't anyone who normally calls out virtue signalling calling it out?"

The response is "I AM calling it out, look at me calling it out, and isn't it kind of jumping the gun seeing as half the forum has not even woken up to see the thread yet, and holy shit look at the virtue signalling in your post."

If he had posted that after a couple days rather than as soon as the thread went up, he wouldn't be vulnerable to that, granted, but it's not like you caught it was it?

Or, assuming you had a chance to see it before Higgins made the post, you could have commented about PillowFucker virtue signalling and broken your track record and deflated all future comments about biased calling of virtue signalling.

Instead your first post was to criticize ZiprHead for even posting the thread at all.

 

[Metaphor]

You seriously think that...

Look, people see some guy saying "look at this virtue signaller over here, why isn't anyone who normally calls out virtue signalling calling it out?"

The response is "I AM calling it out, look at me calling it out, and isn't it kind of jumping the gun seeing as half the forum has not even woken up to see the thread yet, and holy shit look at the virtue signalling in your post."

If he had posted that after a couple days rather than as soon as the thread went up, he wouldn't be vulnerable to that, granted, but it's not like you caught it was it?

Or, assuming you had a chance to see it before Higgins made the post, you could have commented about PillowFucker virtue signalling and broken your track record and deflated all future comments about biased calling of virtue signalling.

Instead your first post was to criticize ZiprHead for even posting the thread at all.

Oy gevalt.

My first comment was not a criticism of ZiprHead. It was an amused observation that he started a thread displaying behaviour I have been accused of (though as I said, I do not hatewatch anything, and although I used to deliberately hateread, I don't do that any more, either).

I didn't know how long ZiprHead's thread had been up by the time JH made his comment and I did not check. I don't even know if the forum is set to my local time or not, and as the forum is dominated by Americans, the busy posting times are different to my posting times. But I knew the thread had been up for a few hours at least.

Now, if you are saying 'JH did not allow enough time for people to comment before he called them out', I agree. But that isn't praise for JH's comment.

And, in case you missed it, I have already said that MyPillow's video setup has all the hallmarks of what I consider to be virtue signalling, which I've already explained in this thread.

But it is not my duty to bow to the opinions of the majority on this board. It is not my duty to call out people who you demand I call out. I don't demand leftists call out obvious leftist virtue signalling (and yes, I recognise that leftists are categorically unable to admit that leftists virtue signal). I don't keep a tally of who has called out whom and how often.

 

[Jarhyn]

I have already said that MyPillow's video setup has all the hallmarks

See, that's the thing though. You only get one chance to do that before you end up having said something dumb and end up in the trap. It must be IMMEDIATE.

All you have to do is not play favorites as to who you call out for virtue signalling. I don't know if it's in your capabilities to do that, to surrender a point on occasion (or even often) so as to actually win battles.

Then, if you did that, you may be forced to actually look at your biases and evaluate doubt in your cause.

And as to hate reading and hate watching, here you are in the thread, reading every one of my posts and getting frustrated and "enraged" If your projection game is any indicator.

 

[Metaphor]

See, that's the thing though. You only get one chance to do that before you end up having said something dumb and end up in the trap. It must be IMMEDIATE.

All you have to do is not play favorites as to who you call out for virtue signalling.

Okay luv. Tell the entire rest of the board. And I'll watch for the next time you decide to call out a leftist. There are many opportunities. But you are not obligated to, even though a board that is about 90% leftist could do with more voices of dissent.

And as to hate reading and hate watching, here you are in the thread, reading every one of my posts and getting frustrated and "enraged" If your projection game is any indicator.

Reading responses directed at me isn't hatereading. Hatereading is seeking out material you know you will disagree with in order to work yourself up into a frothing rage.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Jebus! Are we still talking about this (where this is about my observation 100 or so posts ago, not the OP)?! Someone put out this dumpster fire.

 

[Jarhyn]

And I'll watch for the next time you decide to call out a leftist

... Have you not paid any attention to the "democrats primarying Democrats" thread?

Or like, the entirety of the primary battle between Hillary and Sanders?

Or any of the other times IN THIS THREAD where I have criticized Congress for only advancing certain bills when they are doomed to fail, and then not just immediately reintroducing them in congresses where they will pass?

Or where I spent the entire 2020 election cycle ragging on Biden for being more conservative than I would have liked (despite being later surprised)?

Or where I heavily criticized Minnesota democrats when they glossed over the third option of striking "marriage" and giving everyone a word that was not marriage that they could all call or not call a marriage as they pleased thereafter...

Back when I could downvote folks, you can be sure as shit that about a fifth of the time, I was downvoting "leftists" because I felt they earned it (LD knows what's up, where you at @laughing dog ?)

 

[Ford]

And I'll watch for the next time you decide to call out a leftist

... Have you not paid any attention to the "democrats primarying Democrats" thread?

If we're being honest, even Sanders isn't exactly a "leftist." He's a liberal, to be sure, but no mainstream Democrat and no progressive Democrats are even close to being leftists.

To the left of centrists like Biden, Clinton and Obama? Sure. Advocating socialist revolution and carrying posters of Marx (and Engels...right wingers always forget Engels)?

Not really.


Anyway, can we get back to the almost certain fact that Lindell is a fucking loon who is not in any way shape or form a "victim" of anything even approaching oppression?

 

[Metaphor]

... Have you not paid any attention to the "democrats primarying Democrats" thread?

Or like, the entirety of the primary battle between Hillary and Sanders?

No, I'm not interested in the internecine squabbles of particular political parties. And I meant calling out virtue signalling.

Or any of the other times IN THIS THREAD where I have criticized Congress for only advancing certain bills when they are doomed to fail, and then not just immediately reintroducing them in congresses where they will pass?

Or where I spent the entire 2020 election cycle ragging on Biden for being more conservative than I would have liked (despite being later surprised)?

Or where I heavily criticized Minnesota democrats when they glossed over the third option of striking "marriage" and giving everyone a word that was not marriage that they could all call or not call a marriage as they pleased thereafter...

Back when I could downvote folks, you can be sure as shit that about a fifth of the time, I was downvoting "leftists" because I felt they earned it (LD knows what's up, where you at @laughing dog ?)

I am sure you called out people on the left who were not sufficiently aligned with your particular stances. That's easy. Or perhaps you even go so far as to call them 'centre right' before you call out leftists.

I don't doubt that your downvoting mania was partially responsible for the site abandoning that mechanism. So, I suppose there's that.

 

[Metaphor]

Anyway, can we get back to the almost certain fact that Lindell is a fucking loon who is not in any way shape or form a "victim" of anything even approaching oppression?

Lindell says, at the beginning of the video,

"Cancel culture has not only affected myself and MyPillow, but also millions of you out there"

And that's all he says about it. It's so anodyne, so milquetoast, it beggars belief that ZiprHead didn't cancel his own goddamn thread title for its over-the-top rhetoric.

 

[Ford]

Anyway, can we get back to the almost certain fact that Lindell is a fucking loon who is not in any way shape or form a "victim" of anything even approaching oppression?

Lindell says, at the beginning of the video,

"Cancel culture has not only affected myself and MyPillow, but also millions of you out there"

And that's all he says about it. It's so anodyne, so milquetoast...

It's so "I'm a victim because I'm a Trump supporter. Please by my pillow...sorry...My Pillow because Jesus and voter fraud (p.s. I need about a billion and a half dollars to fend off this lawsuit).

How many times have you watched this video and said "that's goddamned right, Mike! You're the real victim here!"?

More to the point...how many of his pillows have you bought? Because there does seem to be a "thing" where people buy more of them than they really need just to support him in his tireless efforts to fight the Chinese/George Soros/Hugo Chavez/Cyber Ninjas effort to deny Trump his rightful victory. Did you buy the towels, too?

 

[Jarhyn]

I meant calling out virtue signalling

IN THIS THREAD where I have criticized Congress for only advancing certain bills when they are doomed to fail, and then not just immediately reintroducing them in congresses where they will pass?

Like that?

The issue is, generally, that I can recognize the difference between virtue signalling, and actually doing things I find virtuous.

You never actually discuss what you find virtuous and why, though. I have no idea what that may be. I only know what it is you hate, because that's the only thing you ever post about, at, or in reference to.

As it is, here's another one, of me calling someone out for something kinda dumb they said...

Anyway, can we get back to the almost certain fact that Lindell is a fucking loon who is not in any way shape or form a "victim" of anything even approaching oppression?

Lindell says, at the beginning of the video,

"Cancel culture has not only affected myself and MyPillow, but also millions of you out there"

And that's all he says about it. It's so anodyne, so milquetoast...

It's so "I'm a victim because I'm a Trump supporter. Please by my pillow...sorry...My Pillow because Jesus and voter fraud (p.s. I need about a billion and a half dollars to fend off this lawsuit).

How many times have you watched this video and said "that's goddamned right, Mike! You're the real victim here!"?

More to the point...how many of his pillows have you bought? Because there does seem to be a "thing" where people buy more of them than they really need just to support him in his tireless efforts to fight the Chinese/George Soros/Hugo Chavez/Cyber Ninjas effort to deny Trump his rightful victory. Did you buy the towels, too?

He's Australian and while I don't doubt he would if they were on the market, they don't ship to Australia.

He said as much.

I'm sure there's an equally shitty, scammy pillow company over there that Metaphor funnels his money to instead.

 

[laughing dog]

He's Australian and while I don't doubt he would if they were on the market, they don't ship to Australia.

He said as much.

I'm sure there's an equally shitty, scammy pillow company over there that Metaphor funnels his money to instead.

If you go the mypillow.com, and try to order, they do ship to Australia.

 

[Ford]

He's Australian and while I don't doubt he would if they were on the market, they don't ship to Australia.

He said as much.

I'm sure there's an equally shitty, scammy pillow company over there that Metaphor funnels his money to instead.

If you go the mypillow.com, and try to order, they do ship to Australia.

Crikey.

 

[Metaphor]

How many times have you watched this video and said "that's goddamned right, Mike! You're the real victim here!"?

I've watched the video twice and said what you have in quotes zero times.

More to the point...how many of his pillows have you bought? Because there does seem to be a "thing" where people buy more of them than they really need just to support him in his tireless efforts to fight the Chinese/George Soros/Hugo Chavez/Cyber Ninjas effort to deny Trump his rightful victory. Did you buy the towels, too?

The very least you could do is read my posts, one of which explains why I'm not interested in any of his products.

 

[Metaphor]

He's Australian and while I don't doubt he would if they were on the market, they don't ship to Australia.

He said as much.

No, I did not say I would buy them if they shipped to Australia. In fact, I explained explicitly that even if they shipped (I didn't check), it would be uneconomical, it would be environmentally wasteful, and pillows are hardly so miraculous and special that I can't find a pillow that is already in Australia to buy, if I needed pillows.

I'm sure there's an equally shitty, scammy pillow company over there that Metaphor funnels his money to instead.

Save your imagination for DnD.

 

[Metaphor]

I don't buy products to support political causes. I buy products based on the quality and economy and convenience of the product.

 

[Ford]

I don't buy products to support political causes. I buy products based on the quality and economy and convenience of the product.

And then you get into endless online pissing matches defending the guy behind those products. This thread could have been wrapped up a long time ago if you'd just said "yep, Mike's a fucking lunatic" and moved along.

Yet here we are. I mean, if you really were "not interested in any of his products" this wouldn't have gotten this far. You could of course say "yeah, right. He's a grifter and a nut job," but you won't do that, will you?

 

[Metaphor]

And then you get into endless online pissing matches defending the guy behind those products.

I didn't defend him. You clearly haven't even read the thread.

Yet here we are. I mean, if you really were "not interested in any of his products" this wouldn't have gotten this far. You could of course say "yeah, right. He's a grifter and a nut job," but you won't do that, will you?

I don't know if he is or he isn't. I don't know anything about him except the commercial video in the OP.

Now, I name MyPillow and Goody Proctor both as witches!

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

 

[Elixir]

You could of course say "yeah, right. He's a grifter and a nut job," but you won't do that, will you?

Wtf? The pillow putz is a right wing extremist. You want meta to have his right wing dogwhistle decoder ring to be revoked?