Posted almost 300 posts ago:
Be careful to not let those seeking to change the subject succeed in silencing the facts. Their tactic is to change the subject so that you are no longer able to have a conversation about the clear issue of race in this video.
They try to make comments demeaning women to draw the conversation into that. But the FACT is that the female cop treated one teen in one way, and then, after
patting him on the chest, she went and kneeled on the neck of the other teen.
This is consistent with racism, and is not excused by the sexist derail that she is weak and had no other choicxe but the treat the white boy kindly. She walked over and
kneeled on the neck of the boy who was on the ground, turning her back on the other boy.
Then they try to get pedantic about whether the word "arrest" is perfect or not. Failing to understand American law... Again, to try to get you to talk about something other than the clear issue of race in this scene.
Length of the Stop: Short or Prolonged?
Investigatory stops (or "detentions") must be no longer than necessary and officers must investigate with the least intrusive means that are reasonably available. When an officer prolongs a detention beyond what is brief and cursory and broadens it, then the detention may turn into a de facto arrest—that is, an actual but not official arrest.
If a reasonable person in the suspect's position would have considered the police's behavior to constitute the kind of restraint that's typical of formal arrest, then an arrest has occurred. Some courts phrase the issue as depending on whether, after brief questioning, a reasonable innocent person would have felt free to leave—if not, there's been an arrest. (Johnson v. Bay Area Rapid Transit Dist., 724 F.3d 1159 (9th Cir. 2013).)
The problem remains that no explanation is more clear than race.
- Not the gender of the cops, since the female cop treated the two teens differently moving one, kneeling on the neck of the other, and the male cop did not make choices consistent with thinking himself "stronger" - unless they both concluded that "Black" = "more dangerous"
- Not the question of whether the body-slammed-and-handcuffed teen was actually arrested versus de facto arrested compared to the standing-around-behind-the-cops-without-being-monitored teen.
- Not whether one was a bully and the other a victim, since the police were not there for that part.
There are people who do no want this argument to include racism. And they are doing everything they can to change the subject. And when people take the effort to rebut their claims, they simply repeat them again, expecting that if they shout it loudly enough and often enough they will be believed.
But that is a tactic. It is clear as day and repeated over and over and over. "But what about this excuse?" (don't address racism) "But what about that excuse" (don't address racism) "But what, again, about this first excuse, as if it was never rebutted" (got you away from racism! Hah!)
Facts: This is not an isolated example. It happens again and again and again, at frequencies that are not possible to exist without racism. And people (including those on this board) will use this statistic to claim that black people commit more crimes, gleefully hiding the FACT that many of those arrests are unjust.
An example of an unjust arrest is shown to them,. and they launch into their tactics of distract and derail. Then claim it [the racist action] never happened.
They are still doing it. Y’aal need to decide whether you’re going to participate.
The explanations put forth to explain this without racism involve imagining seven layers of supposition, when they are even given at all. Some just say they won’t give their reasons, but let’s talk about the definition of arrest instead.
It’s a tactic. It’s still a tactic.
Racism explains this better than any other thing.
It shows the example of how it happens (and how some people will do anything to deny it.)
And it shows exactly how unjust arrests take place.
Both cops overreacted to one teen and not the other. Excuses for the female cop to just obey and add to the unjust cuffing won’t hold up in the lens of justice, she left one teen and knelt on the neck of the other. (Ask Tou Thao, J. Alexander Kueng, and Thomas Lane)
Racism explains very well why the male cop showed up, tossed the white kid (on the top - more dangerous) aside and assaulted the black teen (on the bottom, less dangerous).
Racism explains very well why the female cop left one kid to sit briefly and then stand up and move around unmonitored, so that she could kneel on the enck of the other.
Racism explains why the reactions of the teens all around never gave the cops pause.
And it doesn’t need, “well maybe someone said something we didn’t hear,” and it doesn’t need, “well maybe the cops knew the teen standing up and walking toward them wasn’t dangerous.”
All it requires is that they walked up and saw, “black teen - he must be aggressive and dangerous, we’d better protect the public from him!” Even if he’s on the bottom of the fight with the larger, older boy. While simultaneously seeing “white teen, he’s probably just fine, just let him sit on his own recognizance.”
And that. Is racism.
