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By what means that won’t be called “stacking the deck” by those stacking the deck?
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By what means that won’t be called “stacking the deck” by those stacking the deck?
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Arab is not the same thing as Muslim.
Muslim is not the same thing as radical.
KKK claims to be a Christian organization. Apparently now so is the GOP.
Please stop equating radicalism with any particular religion. It exists within all religion and also outside of all religions.
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Sure, sure, Loren. YOU and YOU ALONE know the truth about redlining and how it did not ever, ever, ever hurt any borrowers of color, ever.
I have never yet known a single racist who believed they were racist.
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I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penaltywww.vox.com
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
I have no problem with going after people who harm others through racism (say, by refusing to hire group X.) I have a big problem with skewing the selection process to hire the "proper" percent of group X. Disparate outcomes is simply a reason to look, not evidence of guilt.
It is much more of an issue with Islam.
When is the last time you heard of the KKK killing someone? When is the last time you heard of an Islamist killing?
Are you dismissing that report as irrelevant?I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penalty
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
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You’ll have to define what you consider an ‘Islamist’ killing. Or ‘Islamist.’ Lots of Hamas killings going on in the Mideast as we type. As for KKK killings: Not that the press has been doing a decent job of reporting but yes, it’s been a while since any killings in the US have been attributed to the KKK. I expect that to change come January.
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Oh. Ex post facto. I see. Wait until Fred Trump has extracted hundreds of millions from hapless poor people, then try to best his tens of millions of dollars worth of lawyers in court, using laws that will be attacked as “deck stacking”?
How you gonna “go after them” without laws that will be seen as stacking the deck, Loren?
“Go arrest the bad guys” sounds like a Trump “solution” to me. Got anything better, or is magic your last resort?
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Are you dismissing that report as irrelevant?I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penalty
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
Does it support your claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male?
You're proving my point.
And I agree with you that I expect to see racist killings in the US come 2025--I was talking about the current situation, not the future.
And it's not just Hamas, there's Islamist violence across much of Africa and a fair part of Asia.
In 1982 I set out (as part of a group) on the Johannesburg-London overland route--rough, but not a hazard beyond the risks of traffic and disease. That's not been an option for a long time now due to Islamist violence. A while back I was playing with Google Maps trying to see just how messed up it had become--and found I simply could not plot a route that an American could take, not even considering how dangerous it would be. (Google isn't going to have a lot to say about this as such things were no longer an option in the era of the internet.)
Oh for fuck sake Loren. “They don’t keep out radicals”? They are easily radicalized and the big money is in on it? That is the modern GOP.
My brother in-law is Pakistani Muslim. He and his siblings are more secular and liberal than any of the Trumpers I know and that definitely includes all of the Trump supporting infidels here. They are all atheist and practice only some culture to keep their parents assuaged.
They are exactly the kind of multicultural “woke” nice to everybody people that American conservatives revile. They are in a tough spot with hardline religious assholes hating them for multiple real and fictitious reasons.
Of course I get to the point of lumping all Christians into the Christofascist camp because of the GOP embrace of Project 2025 type shit. But then I got a dose of reality on that when we moved out AA group to a rented space at a United Church of Christ. The pastor is openly lesbian and married and they are the warmest most welcoming people I’ve encountered in a long time. I’m still an atheist but I’ll volunteer to help out around that church any day.
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Oh huh the racists are going full mask off.
So pre-crime for an offense you don't like.
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Right. Murder* is illegal even if you didn’t murder anyone yet. Of course it infringes a little bit on the rights of murderers … stacking the deck against them.
Hell, if they keep doing that, we could run out if murderers!
Get off the silly string, Loren. Last time I checked, you can’t pass laws against what someone does ex post facto.
* the same is true for lesser offenses.
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No AA system there, so you wouldn't expect it. What it shows is that the gender pay gap is due to motherhood.Are you dismissing that report as irrelevant?I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penalty
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
Does it support your claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male?
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Are you okay, Loren?No AA system there, so you wouldn't expect it. What it shows is that the gender pay gap is due to motherhood.Are you dismissing that report as irrelevant?I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penalty
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
Does it support your claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male?
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No AA system there, so you wouldn't expect it. What it shows is that the gender pay gap is due to motherhood.Are you dismissing that report as irrelevant?I don't have time for a detailed look and don't have convenient links but it was easy to find this:
That’s an interesting perspective, and I’d like to understand it better. Could you provide data or sources to support the claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male? Specifically, it would be helpful to see:
If you have examples of where to find this information (e.g., academic studies, labor statistics, industry reports), please share them. This could help clarify and substantiate your point. Thanks!
- Studies or reports analyzing wage disparities across demographics with similar degrees and qualifications.
- Data comparing employment rates and earnings by race and gender for graduates in comparable fields.
- Research on employer preferences or hiring practices that might show a bias in favor of non-white, non-male candidates.
A stunning chart shows the true cause of the gender wage gap
The gender wage gap is really a child care penalty
It's not specifically about degrees but it shows what's actually going on with the "gender" pay gap.
Thanks for the non-answer. Again, again, and again.
Does it support your claim that degrees are more valuable if you're not a white male?
I don't give a shit about that because that's not what I was asking about.
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It's not just the south. And it's an unfair characterization. Many/most rural communities lose population to The Big City because there are more jobs there and more opportunities. It's a real issue for parents and for young adults. Parents usually want what is best for their kids and struggle with the fact that often means that they move far away. Young adults are drawn to the greater opportunities of urban areas--and then struggle with the high cost of living. Sometimes the older generation moves to a more urban area to be near adult kids/grandkids, healthcare, etc. and sometimes younger adults move back to smaller communities for the reduced stress and relaxing atmosphere.