House intelligence committee briefed in secret meeting over all the drone sightings

Why the secret meeting over this? The fact that they are telling the public everything is alright, and there is nothing suspicious... then have a secret meeting, should make anyone curious. Here is our big and bloated government telling the public not to be alarmed, "don't worry about these drones that may be the size of pick up trucks hovering above your house. Because we have it all under control in our secrecy meeting! Nobody means you any harm....now just go back to bed and be a good boy."

Is that the kind of government we are supposed to have representing us?

Just tell us the truth already!

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would believe the government is doing this all on purpose to terrorize their own citizens. So that they can pass yet another draconian tyranny department like NSA to take away even more of our freedoms again. After all, the government will need to be even bigger to "protect us from the drones".

Well, we know it’s not a Tesla pickup truck as it would have been recalled before ever reaching its destination.

I suspect it’s a fine collection of random drone loving dickheads who are coordinating their actions on social media. Or is that too boring?

Some of the “drone” sightings have turned out to be airplanes, planets, and stars. It isn’t clear what fraction of the recent reports are of actual drones.

If it is US military then there may be very good reasons they are not revealing much info.

Its mass hysteria and probably us military

national security officials have already said there's nothing to worry about and the dems tried to give more power to the authorities to find out what's going on. then rand paul blocked that and said “expand federal authority to intercept communications and disrupt drone activity — powers that raise serious concerns for Americans’ privacy, civil liberties, and Fourth Amendment protections against unwarranted search and seizure.”

the closed door meeting was probably everyone saying "these morons are still talking about drones but they're looking at airplanes half the time. lets act like we're doing something."

Toni said:

If it is US military then there may be very good reasons they are not revealing much info.

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That kind of makes sense to me. But why would the US military be testing drones or conducting military exercises so close to heavily populated centers near New Jersey? Don't they have their own desolated locations in Nevada for that?

cycomiko said:

the closed door meeting was probably everyone saying "these morons are still talking about drones but they're looking at airplanes half the time. lets act like we're doing something."

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Speaking just for myself, I'd rather be called a moron and be told the truth. In a free society there should be very few instances where telling the truth is bad or harmful.

Someone said a shipment of medical grade radioactive material went missing and the drones are being used to try to track it.

Or it could just be a conspiracy theory.

RVonse said:

Why the secret meeting over this? The fact that they are telling the public everything is alright, and there is nothing suspicious... then have a secret meeting, should make anyone curious. Here is our big and bloated government telling the public not to be alarmed, "don't worry about these drones that may be the size of pick up trucks hovering above your house. Because we have it all under control in our secrecy meeting! Nobody means you any harm....now just go back to bed and be a good boy."

Is that the kind of government we are supposed to have representing us?

Just tell us the truth already!

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would believe the government is doing this all on purpose to terrorize their own citizens. So that they can pass yet another draconian tyranny department like NSA to take away even more of our freedoms again. After all, the government will need to be even bigger to "protect us from the drones".

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When they tell the truth you won't believe it anyway, so why do you care?

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RVonse said:

Why the secret meeting over this? The fact that they are telling the public everything is alright, and there is nothing suspicious... then have a secret meeting, should make anyone curious. Here is our big and bloated government telling the public not to be alarmed, "don't worry about these drones that may be the size of pick up trucks hovering above your house. Because we have it all under control in our secrecy meeting! Nobody means you any harm....now just go back to bed and be a good boy."

Is that the kind of government we are supposed to have representing us?

Just tell us the truth already!

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would believe the government is doing this all on purpose to terrorize their own citizens. So that they can pass yet another draconian tyranny department like NSA to take away even more of our freedoms again. After all, the government will need to be even bigger to "protect us from the drones".

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When they tell the truth you won't believe it anyway, so why do you care?

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Because I am paying and expecting our representatives NOT to be corrupt.

And yes, the government can and often does lie and I may choose not to believe what they say. What is far worse than lying is for the government to be involved in organized secrecy meetings. We are supposed to be a free and open society. The public should be able to listen in real time to what our house intelligence committee learns and not treated like children and sheep. There should be nothing in those meetings that should not pass scrutiny from the average public.

Do you really want to live in a free and open society or do you want to pretend you are a child covering your hands over your eyes, who needs to be led and guided by the adults in Washington? I want the truth even if it is hard to hear. Such meetings in secret invite corruption and invite the public not to trust government.

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Speaking just for myself, I'd rather be called a moron and be told the truth.

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2020 was a free and fair election with more scrutiny than any other in US history.

Whether I call you a moron is up to you. Do you still believe in a guy who's only skill is selling pillows?

RVonse said:

Axulus said:

RVonse said:

Why the secret meeting over this? The fact that they are telling the public everything is alright, and there is nothing suspicious... then have a secret meeting, should make anyone curious. Here is our big and bloated government telling the public not to be alarmed, "don't worry about these drones that may be the size of pick up trucks hovering above your house. Because we have it all under control in our secrecy meeting! Nobody means you any harm....now just go back to bed and be a good boy."

Is that the kind of government we are supposed to have representing us?

Just tell us the truth already!

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would believe the government is doing this all on purpose to terrorize their own citizens. So that they can pass yet another draconian tyranny department like NSA to take away even more of our freedoms again. After all, the government will need to be even bigger to "protect us from the drones".

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When they tell the truth you won't believe it anyway, so why do you care?

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Because I am paying and expecting our representatives NOT to be corrupt.

And yes, the government can and often does lie and I may choose not to believe what they say. What is far worse than lying is for the government to be involved in organized secrecy meetings. We are supposed to be a free and open society. The public should be able to listen in real time to what our house intelligence committee learns and not treated like children and sheep. There should be nothing in those meetings that should not pass scrutiny from the average public.

Do you really want to live in a free and open society or do you want to pretend you are a child covering your hands over your eyes, who needs to be led and guided by the adults in Washington? I want the truth even if it is hard to hear. Such meetings in secret invite corruption and invite the public not to trust government.

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Yet you supported a candidate who refused to release the truth about his health or wealth.

If there is anything classified the briefing will be classified.

Look at what happened in Roswell--some sort of oopsie dumped a classified bit of equipment into the desert and people went bonkers over the idea of aliens. Think about what would have been in the classified briefing: our balloon payload crashed into the desert. Total nothingburger.

Think about what's happening now--suppose there was one sighting that was of something classified. It would be a classified briefing and the conspiracy theorists would go nuts about it.

RVonse said:

Axulus said:

RVonse said:

Why the secret meeting over this? The fact that they are telling the public everything is alright, and there is nothing suspicious... then have a secret meeting, should make anyone curious. Here is our big and bloated government telling the public not to be alarmed, "don't worry about these drones that may be the size of pick up trucks hovering above your house. Because we have it all under control in our secrecy meeting! Nobody means you any harm....now just go back to bed and be a good boy."

Is that the kind of government we are supposed to have representing us?

Just tell us the truth already!

If I were a conspiracy theorist I would believe the government is doing this all on purpose to terrorize their own citizens. So that they can pass yet another draconian tyranny department like NSA to take away even more of our freedoms again. After all, the government will need to be even bigger to "protect us from the drones".

Click to expand...

When they tell the truth you won't believe it anyway, so why do you care?

Click to expand...

Because I am paying and expecting our representatives NOT to be corrupt.

And yes, the government can and often does lie and I may choose not to believe what they say. What is far worse than lying is for the government to be involved in organized secrecy meetings. We are supposed to be a free and open society. The public should be able to listen in real time to what our house intelligence committee learns and not treated like children and sheep. There should be nothing in those meetings that should not pass scrutiny from the average public.

Do you really want to live in a free and open society or do you want to pretend you are a child covering your hands over your eyes, who needs to be led and guided by the adults in Washington? I want the truth even if it is hard to hear. Such meetings in secret invite corruption and invite the public not to trust government.

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Are you a child who does not realize that there are things that the government needs to do without informing the entire world? Do you not realize that a lot of negotiations go on behind closed doors until the deal is done? Or have you not seen how people leap to assume conspiracy theories and all sorts of nefarious things with scant or zero evidence? Good god, Fauci is still being pilloried and even threatened with prosecution, not to mention death threats because idiots preferred to believe Dumdum Donnie’s insane ramblings about what COVID was and was not and how it should be treated—all the while holding his own super spreader events and getting state of the art medical treatment for his infection while telling the masses to inject bleach or shove UV lights up their rectums?

Hysteria and conspiracy-centered "thinking". If I walked outside tonight I could see any number of things overhead that I could turn into sinister drones, from blinking lights on radio towers to the lights on passing planes. To actual drones -- they're not that rare anymore. A mini-drone was used to take a group picture at a reunion I attended last year.
We've gone through 21 centuries in the common era, yet so many of us behave like 15th century French peasants, who believed in witches, who thought a night hag or succubus might plague them at night, who believed in the blood libel on the Jews, who wiped their asses with straw. Earlier today, at the Y, in a conversation with a woman who I thought had a discerning or at least common sense outlook, I heard something that dismayed me. She remarked that she'd seen/heard something about the Sandy Hook "hoax", and that, no, really, I wouldn't believe what "they" had found out about it, and what had been covered up. Because I didn't want to end our friendship, I just said No, I can't go there with you; no way can two dozen people be murdered, most of them little kids, and it's all made up. That's not the world we're in.
It will take me a long time to get over this insight she gave me into her assessment of the "hoax". Haters gonna hate, conspiracy dingdongs gonna ding and dong.

RVonse said:

Toni said:

If it is US military then there may be very good reasons they are not revealing much info.

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That kind of makes sense to me. But why would the US military be testing drones or conducting military exercises so close to heavily populated centers near New Jersey? Don't they have their own desolated locations in Nevada for that?

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I'm assuming your "desolated locations" refers to the famous "Area 51." That made sense as they were testing experimental aircraft didn't look or fly like anything that your average denizen of New Jersey would recognize, and even isolating it in the (relative) middle of nowhere still attracted UFO true believers. I mean, in the early 80s an F117 looked like an alien spacecraft.

Drones? They're pretty normal at this point, so testing them near a population center like New Jersey makes sense. You can fly a drone over a neighborhood and it gets "lost in the noise" so to speak. It's not a weird looking thing like a stealth fighter. It could be some company testing delivery drones or someone filming a YouTube video. The ubiquity of drones gives them "cover" to test stuff.

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cycomiko said:

the closed door meeting was probably everyone saying "these morons are still talking about drones but they're looking at airplanes half the time. lets act like we're doing something."

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Speaking just for myself, I'd rather be called a moron and be told the truth. In a free society there should be very few instances where telling the truth is bad or harmful.

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You being told the truth: There's nothing to the drone sightings

You:


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I think it's a bunch of yahoos sending their chinese drones to investigate drone sightings.

Ford said:

RVonse said:

Toni said:

If it is US military then there may be very good reasons they are not revealing much info.

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That kind of makes sense to me. But why would the US military be testing drones or conducting military exercises so close to heavily populated centers near New Jersey? Don't they have their own desolated locations in Nevada for that?

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I'm assuming your "desolated locations" refers to the famous "Area 51." That made sense as they were testing experimental aircraft didn't look or fly like anything that your average denizen of New Jersey would recognize, and even isolating it in the (relative) middle of nowhere still attracted UFO true believers. I mean, in the early 80s an F117 looked like an alien spacecraft.

Drones? They're pretty normal at this point, so testing them near a population center like New Jersey makes sense. You can fly a drone over a neighborhood and it gets "lost in the noise" so to speak. It's not a weird looking thing like a stealth fighter. It could be some company testing delivery drones or someone filming a YouTube video. The ubiquity of drones gives them "cover" to test stuff.

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Something alone these lines. If the military needed to perform testing in a real world environment, a typical radio frequency background of cities, particularly near airport radar.

I remember some eight years ago when I worked at the FAA there being mention of setting up systems (they were recruiting people internally) to protect commercial aircraft from drone attack during the vulnerable time of takeoff and landing. Seems plausible that eight years later they'd finally be in a real world testing phase.